[Forcefed3]

Originally Posted by Mikey_Bo0sts

Yeah highest gains in their shop maybe lol and by the time that charge pipe will come out I'll sell the car and it will probably cost a 1000 bucks anyway

If you don't like it why did you spend your money on it...

[Mikey_Bo0sts]

Originally Posted by gbreeE90

If you don't like it why did you spend your money on it...

I liked the size, but then when I've installed it I had a bit of a regret that it uses stock piping

[Forcefed3]

Originally Posted by Mikey_Bo0sts

I liked the size, but then when I've installed it I had a bit of a regret that it uses stock piping

When you ordered it you didn't see the (uses factory c-clip connection)? Also, tell me why the stock piping isn't good enough.

[Mikey_Bo0sts]

Originally Posted by gbreeE90

When you ordered it you didn't see the (uses factory c-clip connection)? Also, tell me why the stock piping isn't good enough.

I did , I'm sure it's ok but I like the idea of the free flowing pipe , I liked the fact that it was really easy to install and it was big, I've bought an CP-E fmic at 1st but then I didn't like the built quality and I've sold it.

[WilliamE92]

screw the intercooler, I want the dog!

2nd pic is hilarious

"i can has lower IAT's pleez"

[MJR63]

Michael - Do you have anything that will fit the N55?

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by gbreeE90

When you ordered it you didn't see the (uses factory c-clip connection)? Also, tell me why the stock piping isn't good enough.

This is why you buy HPF....

[MF80]

Originally Posted by Penn999

This is why you buy HPF....

You're way too much into HPF thing. It actually becomes annoying now...

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by JsTech

You're way too much into HPF thing. It actually becomes annoying now...

I could'NT care less what you think, they were speaking about the performance of the fmic's and more specifically the HPF c-clips. This was an example of its performance and reliability, I was adding depth to the thread, you however are not, piss off.

EDIT: Thanks Brian

[BrianMN]

Originally Posted by Penn999

I could care less what you think, they were speaking about the performance of the fmic's and more specifically the HPF c-clips. This was an example of its performance and reliability, I was adding depth to the thread, you however are not, piss off.

Pretty sure you mean you COULDN'T care less...

[BoostedE90]

Looks good!

Nice work Michael and the guys @ ETS!

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by Mikey_Bo0sts

I did , I'm sure it's ok but I like the idea of the free flowing pipe , I liked the fact that it was really easy to install and it was big, I've bought an CP-E fmic at 1st but then I didn't like the built quality and I've sold it.

If free flowing and design is what your looking for then the piping is definitely better than the OEM ones but if your getting the ETS, IMO your not gaining the best flow characteristics because the endtanks are no comparison to the HPF one...So you gain in one aspect and lose in the other, and at the end your still in the same place....Now if you got the HPF with different piping, then you win in both cases!

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

If free flowing and design is what your looking for then the piping is definitely better than the OEM ones but if your getting the ETS, IMO your not gaining the best flow characteristics because the endtanks are no comparison to the HPF one...So you gain in one aspect and lose in the other, and at the end your still in the same place....Now if you got the HPF with different piping, then you win in both cases!

I have to say there is a lot of speculation on the end tanks and flow here. I agree there must be a difference from simply fluid flow physics, but there is no data to prove if it makes a bit of difference on these tiny turbos.

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

I have to say there is a lot of speculation on the end tanks and flow here. I agree there must be a difference from simply fluid flow physics, but there is no data to prove if it makes a bit of difference on these tiny turbos.

Thats what I said, Chris told me that it wouldnt matter until you upgraded your turbos. You simply don't need that much air flow until you reach higher power levels. Im not exactly sure about how much power, but I trust the guys that do this for a living...

[Forcefed3]

Originally Posted by Mikey_Bo0sts

I did , I'm sure it's ok but I like the idea of the free flowing pipe , I liked the fact that it was really easy to install and it was big, I've bought an CP-E fmic at 1st but then I didn't like the built quality and I've sold it.

Fair enough.

[PKumarM3]

Originally Posted by dadgar

Why not put in the procede V5 now before your dynos and then when dynoing with each additional mod do it in the stock map and a performance map. That way you will see your total gains and the gains with each upgrade using procede.

I want to see what each modification does to my car. I want to see how the following combinations work

- stock
- dci
- dci + intercooler
- dci + intercooler + procede v5

and if i ever do downpipes down the road, i would like to see how that works.

I don't have ready access to a dyno, so thats the main challenge.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by PKumarM3

I want to see what each modification does to my car. I want to see how the following combinations work

- stock
- dci
- dci + intercooler
- dci + intercooler + procede v5

and if i ever do downpipes down the road, i would like to see how that works.

I don't have ready access to a dyno, so thats the main challenge.

The problem is that this is not like doing this on a car with a static timing curve and consistent boost. If you run colder IATs, then the DME may increase timing, boost, etc. It is really difficult to determine the exact effect of each mod because the model is not static but dynamic in many ways. I have tested everything under the sun and have tons of reviews on the forums and have learned a lot along the way. I have had 3 different intercoolers on my car so far. LOL.

[PKumarM3]

I suppose unless its done all on the same day it won't be accurate. I would like to get at least a ball park figure on what each modification added.

[ETS Michael]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

The problem is that this is not like doing this on a car with a static timing curve and consistent boost. If you run colder IATs, then the DME may increase timing, boost, etc. It is really difficult to determine the exact effect of each mod because the model is not static but dynamic in many ways. I have tested everything under the sun and have tons of reviews on the forums and have learned a lot along the way. I have had 3 different intercoolers on my car so far. LOL.

I have step by step dyno's but I don't have any logs from the Procede. I just have the dyno runs after auto tune, but it does show the nice increase in autotune power from each mod

Michael

[Joshboody]

Originally Posted by PKumarM3

I want to see what each modification does to my car. I want to see how the following combinations work

- stock
- dci
- dci + intercooler
- dci + intercooler + procede v5

and if i ever do downpipes down the road, i would like to see how that works.

I don't have ready access to a dyno, so thats the main challenge.

Ok, dyno steps are important. without a tune for your dci and IC, the only difference will be cooler temps and increased timing advance, due to your turbos working less to reach same load (oxygen content). My suggestion is:
- stock
- v5
- dci + map0 / dci + v5
- dci + IC + map0 / dci + IC + v5

I would actually do all this at a steady UT/IC with NO autotune. This eliminates variables in needing to adapt the car while the dyno operator is waiting. Now if you can fully adapt the car this would be best, making sure your aggression is close to 2 when running the dyno. Don't forget to log every dyno pull.

[Joshboody]

Originally Posted by maxnix

A better methodology would be:

1. stock
2. dci
3. procede 5
4. intercooler
5. intercooler and procede 5
6. dci and intercooler
7. dci and procede 5 and intercooler

5 timed runs in two directions corrected for ambient conditions would be a lot more illuminating than any dynamometer and not cost you funds.

true, you could probably purchase a vbox with the funds needed for all these dyno pulls.

[Shellacked135i]

Originally Posted by Mikey_Bo0sts

I did , I'm sure it's ok but I like the idea of the free flowing pipe , I liked the fact that it was really easy to install and it was big, I've bought an CP-E fmic at 1st but then I didn't like the built quality and I've sold it.

Surprised you didnt like the build quality? Could you be more specific of what you ran into?