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04-23-2021, 05:38 PM | #23 |
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FWIW, I put the new rotors/TRW pads on the front a couple weeks ago. Rotors are fine, but I am seeing an unacceptable amount of brake dust from these supposedly low dust ceramic pads. I'll be returning them to FCP and leaving a review there. The StopTech ceramics I used to have from AdvanceAuto lasted several 10's of thousands of miles and were virtually dust free.
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04-25-2021, 09:26 AM | #24 | |
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Mention I found their pads terrible in the wet. I am currently running Zimmerman rotors with the hawk 5.0 pads. My favourite setup so far. The 5.0 pads are nice and linear, great bite when you put your foot down. Dust is not bad. Normal I'd say.
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04-25-2021, 08:11 PM | #26 |
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This is the level of dust I am getting of the new TRW pads from FCP. In defense of TRW, I have zero issue with stopping performance. The problem is is that these are ceramic pads that are supposed to have low/no dust, and that is clearly not the case here. I know StopTech are supposedly a less regarded brand, but they were excellent from a dust perspective. I did not know that they were made in China, and while I accept that a lot of the things in our lives are going to originate from there, I do try to support Made in USA/Europe/low Earth Orbit/whatever. But if I pay for a product that is supposed to be low/no dust, that is what I expect to receive.
They have been on the E93 for two weeks, and I just detailed the car this weekend. I'll give it another couple weeks/few hundred miles just to confirm what I am seeing before throwing in the towel. My Plan B is probably the Akebonos.
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04-26-2021, 11:15 AM | #27 | |
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I had OEM pads and rotors on my 325 which were excellent in terms of performance until they finally wore out, then I replaced them with Pagid rotors and Centric PQPRO pads, which feel as good as OEM but have about the same amount of brake dust. Those PQPRO pads are also pretty worn out for only 14K miles so I'll be replacing soon. When I purchased my 330i it recently had new brakes installed. I'm not sure about the rotors but the pads are Akebono ceramic. They are definitely low dust and I can't complain about performance, but it is most definitely a different pedal feel than the OEM combination that was on my 325. It's not bad and I'm not going to change anything now, however I would prefer a much better brake feel over the low dust from the Akebono pads. |
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04-26-2021, 05:35 PM | #28 | |
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Yeah that's pretty bad. I don't think my original Textars were that bad. I can't imagine they'd advertise "low dusting" ceramics like that. Hopefully it's just the break in coating and it gets better. Akebonos don't dust at all. I've got them on all 4's and am very happy with them. After about 300-500 miles they start feeling great. The break-in period sucks though. Very squishy for a little bit, but they'll definitely stop if you need them to. I've gone through plenty of OEM pad setups and I honestly can't tell any practical difference in day to day driving between these and OEMs. Last edited by Welcome to NBA Jam; 04-26-2021 at 05:41 PM.. |
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I replaced both the rotors and pads at the same time. It takes time for both of them to get bedded-in, so you were seeing some of that process. Rotors are actually pretty smooth now.
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05-18-2021, 08:05 AM | #32 | |
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Personally, I think they are absolute garbage performance wise, but if ultimate goal is turning BMW to Camry, Akebono is way to go. |
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Bedding brakes takes about half a dozen runs, get to about 40MPH and use a firm application of the brakes and repeat. Don't let the brakes cool in between runs and you're good to go.
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05-18-2021, 05:21 PM | #34 |
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I’d be making different pad choices were I tracking this car, but I do put my vehicle through a good workout on public roads. Relying on driving skill is more meaningful to me than having to rely on the absolute best brakes or some tune to compensate. Plus, I like a clean car, but don't have time every week to go clean thoroughly. If I wanted a less interesting driving experience, I’d own something non-turbo, an automatic with four doors...
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05-21-2021, 11:06 PM | #35 | |
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So, forget track. I will take any semi metallic pad over ceramic. |
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05-22-2021, 08:47 AM | #36 | |
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I ran on original OEM semi-metalic pads for years/thousands of miles before switching to a ceramic pad. The only material difference I noticed was significant reduction in brake dust that I previously had to continuously clean off. That said, for normal driving (plus some spirited sprints in the country), they both grabbed fine. Never an "oh shit" moment. Never hit any kids, but squirrels...maybe. I may have "accidentally" hit the accelerator in some of those cases....
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Akebono is reputable company. They are one of suppliers for F1 teams. Their Euro line is the way it is not bcs. they don't know how to make pads that are more aggressive, but bcs. they choose not to aiming at specific market. But when you buy their brakes you buy bcs. less dust. You cannot have both ways. |
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Problem performance wise is that they have horrible modulation characteristics and really bad grabbing which is extremely important when one counts on every single ft. of stopping distance. I have seen people running them on track bcs. they have good reputation, except they didn't pay attention what that reputation is about. One good thing about them is consistent performance on track, a problem is that it is not much of performance in the first place. I had them on my VW CC just to give it a try. Took them off after 3,000 miles. |
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Is this the kit you purchased: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...4116855000ktf3
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09-09-2021, 03:56 AM | #42 |
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ATE Low Dust Ceramic pads have been very satisfying when it comes to the dust levels.
Yes there is a price-tag to it (at least here in Europe), but it has outdone all of the other brands I've tried so far that are so called 'Low Dust'. |
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09-14-2021, 01:49 PM | #43 |
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Hi I have a 2019 330 with 25k miles on it new tires just 10k miles ago.
Service is telling me my front brake pads are 7 and the left rear is a 2 they want me to pay for rear brake pads . They are also telling me that my front roters are warped and that is covered under warranty and they will replace them. Could the front rotor issue cause the rear pads to have excessive wear? I do not ride the brakes nor do I take it up the mountain. Thaks for any advice |
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