anyone drive the n53?

5erman · 12-30-2010, 01:37 AM

wondering if any euro folks here have driven the 265 hp (272ps) n53 engine in the 07 and later 330i in europe? It has no valvetronic but does have DI and a little more hp and torque.

Wondering what it was like or noticablly better/worse/different than the n52? Personally valvetronic is absolutely awesome at instant throttle response and smoothness-It is noticable on previous I6 engines without it so curious how it feels

roundle · 12-30-2010, 01:49 AM

I see them often but I've never driven one. They also use the N53 in the 130i.

TheRox · 12-30-2010, 09:23 AM

I would have bought that if it were available. But it isn't for obvious reasons.

IancoleTX · 12-31-2010, 04:58 PM

They need to hurry up and bring that sucker over here.

e90pilot · 12-31-2010, 05:27 PM

We may not be getting them at all. BMW wants to go all turbo. The NA I6 will be a turbo 2.0l I4. All speculation of course. I haven't heard anything official for BMW either way.

2M · 12-31-2010, 06:03 PM

i would take a N53 E92 over any 335

5erman · 01-01-2011, 11:10 AM

really? It only has 10 more hp than the n52 and 15 more TQ. I mean sure that is nice but not a chance would I take the problems with a HPFP which it has just like the n54 and DI with the HUGE problem of valves being soaked in carbon due to lack of fuel cleansing going over them--for a 10 hp and 15tq gain in performance over the 255hp n52.

Then again numbers on paper are decieving so that is why I was curiuos if it was noticably quicker.

It loses the Valvetronic but gain DI-should have had both like the n55 does minus the turbo.

anyway too bad nobody has driven a n52-255hp and the n53 -that would be the only way to tell

2M · 01-01-2011, 05:49 PM

well I would take it in an E92....cause the only NA engine we have is the 230hp N52, so I would gladly take a 265hp NA E92 over a 300 hp twin turbo...+ im sure the N53 can easily reach 300hp with some tuning

TheRox · 01-01-2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 5erman

really? It only has 10 more hp than the n52 and 15 more TQ. I mean sure that is nice but not a chance would I take the problems with a HPFP which it has just like the n54 and DI with the HUGE problem of valves being soaked in carbon due to lack of fuel cleansing going over them--for a 10 hp and 15tq gain in performance over the 255hp n52.

Then again numbers on paper are decieving so that is why I was curiuos if it was noticably quicker.

It loses the Valvetronic but gain DI-should have had both like the n55 does minus the turbo.

anyway too bad nobody has driven a n52-255hp and the n53 -that would be the only way to tell

some of us still prefer the old school motorsport type naturally aspirated engine with a 6MT...boosted engines are awesome with AT, but with 6MT...somehow they do not match well

e90pilot · 01-01-2011, 07:23 PM

As long as the HPFP is still a problem, I don't want anything to do with a BMW that has one. VW/Audi had an excellent NA V6 with DI and has no issues with their HPFP.

BudVlad · 01-02-2011, 06:10 AM

Hopefully BMW solved the problem with HPFP (I have now the 4th generation pump).
For what I invested in my 325i (manifold swap, ECU reprogramming , exhaust, brakes, suspension) I could get 335i but I don’t like turbos and I knew I can bring the N53 performance close to standard N54.
My previous car was 330i E46 (Canadian version). 325i E92 had less hp but it is lighter and the performance was almost equal.
I’m happy with what I have. Little less power than 335i but lighter car and better handling.

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5erman Banned 35 Rep 323 Posts Drives: black 5 series Join Date: May 2009 Location: ohio iTrader: (0)	anyone drive the n53? wondering if any euro folks here have driven the 265 hp (272ps) n53 engine in the 07 and later 330i in europe? It has no valvetronic but does have DI and a little more hp and torque. Wondering what it was like or noticablly better/worse/different than the n52? Personally valvetronic is absolutely awesome at instant throttle response and smoothness-It is noticable on previous I6 engines without it so curious how it feels
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roundle EXPAT 65 Rep 889 Posts Drives: 18 VW GTI;18 CX9;11 E91 N52 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	I see them often but I've never driven one. They also use the N53 in the 130i.
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TheRox Colonel 119 Rep 2,312 Posts Drives: 6mt Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there iTrader: (2)	I would have bought that if it were available. But it isn't for obvious reasons.
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IancoleTX Dillo boxers 272 Rep 3,360 Posts Drives: 2019 M5C Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (14)	They need to hurry up and bring that sucker over here. __________________ 2019 M5C Matte MBB / Tartufo
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e90pilot Freight Dawg 102 Rep 2,103 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oakland, CA iTrader: (3)	We may not be getting them at all. BMW wants to go all turbo. The NA I6 will be a turbo 2.0l I4. All speculation of course. I haven't heard anything official for BMW either way. __________________ --Marcelo '06 Arctic Metallic 325i \| Sport Package \| 6MT \| Dinan Stage III suspension \| Dinan exhaust \| 330i manifold swap! Click here! \| Active Autowerke tune \| 135i Brake Calipers \| Deiselboost caliper brackets \| E46 M3 front rotors
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2M Colonel 503 Rep 2,200 Posts Drives: Mineral Grey M2 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York iTrader: (2)	i would take a N53 E92 over any 335 __________________ E9X Picture Game: 8 points: (High visibility jacket; Strip Club; Pizzeria; Sobriety Test; E9x dressed for Halloween, Billiards, Oil Change, Orange Cone)
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5erman Banned 35 Rep 323 Posts Drives: black 5 series Join Date: May 2009 Location: ohio iTrader: (0)	really? It only has 10 more hp than the n52 and 15 more TQ. I mean sure that is nice but not a chance would I take the problems with a HPFP which it has just like the n54 and DI with the HUGE problem of valves being soaked in carbon due to lack of fuel cleansing going over them--for a 10 hp and 15tq gain in performance over the 255hp n52. Then again numbers on paper are decieving so that is why I was curiuos if it was noticably quicker. It loses the Valvetronic but gain DI-should have had both like the n55 does minus the turbo. anyway too bad nobody has driven a n52-255hp and the n53 -that would be the only way to tell
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2M Colonel 503 Rep 2,200 Posts Drives: Mineral Grey M2 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York iTrader: (2)	well I would take it in an E92....cause the only NA engine we have is the 230hp N52, so I would gladly take a 265hp NA E92 over a 300 hp twin turbo...+ im sure the N53 can easily reach 300hp with some tuning __________________ E9X Picture Game: 8 points: (High visibility jacket; Strip Club; Pizzeria; Sobriety Test; E9x dressed for Halloween, Billiards, Oil Change, Orange Cone)
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e90pilot Freight Dawg 102 Rep 2,103 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oakland, CA iTrader: (3)	As long as the HPFP is still a problem, I don't want anything to do with a BMW that has one. VW/Audi had an excellent NA V6 with DI and has no issues with their HPFP. __________________ --Marcelo '06 Arctic Metallic 325i \| Sport Package \| 6MT \| Dinan Stage III suspension \| Dinan exhaust \| 330i manifold swap! Click here! \| Active Autowerke tune \| 135i Brake Calipers \| Deiselboost caliper brackets \| E46 M3 front rotors
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BudVlad Old Geezer 360 Rep 1,193 Posts Drives: 08 E92 N53B30 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Budweis iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 N53B30 [10.00]	Hopefully BMW solved the problem with HPFP (I have now the 4th generation pump). For what I invested in my 325i (manifold swap, ECU reprogramming , exhaust, brakes, suspension) I could get 335i but I don’t like turbos and I knew I can bring the N53 performance close to standard N54. My previous car was 330i E46 (Canadian version). 325i E92 had less hp but it is lighter and the performance was almost equal. I’m happy with what I have. Little less power than 335i but lighter car and better handling. __________________
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