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05-06-2013, 09:48 AM | #111 | |
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shows nothing of the sort. If anything, the owners not heavily maintaining or actually driving their car shows who "bought for the badge" more.
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05-06-2013, 11:34 AM | #112 |
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You can put a Sirius receiver in the center console. I actually have an XM one there and it works perfectly. The power and aux input are already there so all you have to do is snake the antenna to the rear window. Also, you can buy any number of blue tooth receivers that will allow you to have full BT functionality for streaming from a portable BY enabled devide.
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05-06-2013, 11:47 AM | #113 | |
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My experiences with the 325 helped me to decide what to look for when I upgraded, hence my purchase of a pre-owned, loaded 335i M-sport. I've caught flak from friends, family, and co-workers for both cars, but I don't care. The only person that I'm out to impress is me! |
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05-06-2013, 04:20 PM | #114 | |
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from people who think a camry is a fun car? |
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05-06-2013, 04:26 PM | #115 | |
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not joking, have you seen how nice they are these days? heck, have you BEEN in a totally optionless 116i? it's absolutely horrible (looking too), gutless, boring, and not even really efficient for what it is |
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05-06-2013, 04:27 PM | #116 |
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yeah but in the same kind.. a lot of lexus stuff can be considered almost entirely separate to toyota.. their 'F' cars.. not to mention the LF-A lol.
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05-06-2013, 04:28 PM | #117 |
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05-06-2013, 04:55 PM | #118 |
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Whether its separate or not they are still spreading R&D dollars between two companies, many of the hybrid tech used at Lexus was developed at Toyota. Same as some of the things that were developed in the LFA halo car will be trickled down to both Lexus and Toyota. There is just more volume with the combined sales.
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05-06-2013, 04:59 PM | #119 | |
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Makes sense if you're going for features to stray away from the basic featured car, but topic of priority for someone purchasing a BMW should be the driving characteristics and safety. Then creature comforts. A lot of companies hide cheap engineering with lots of bells and whistles. One thing though, I can't ever imagine a TOTALLY stripped down new car. I've heard UK is common for leatherette or cloth seats in the bmws. I agree that I probably wouldn't stand for it.
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05-06-2013, 05:09 PM | #121 |
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Driven my sisters Hyundai Genisis V6 coupe, and for the money, that's a sick car! (Hyundai owns Kia as it's lower line of cars BTW) But the Genisis is the only car that they make which I would consider.
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05-06-2013, 05:26 PM | #122 |
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The issue here isn't with BMW, but rather with people that buy new BMWs (all of us for the most part). if the market will pay it, they will charge it.
If you had a company and your product costs $1000 to make, what would be the right price to charge for it? The right answer here is not 2, 3 or 4 k but rather whatever people will pay for it. If it is not enough to make an appropriate profit, change the product or go out of business. BMW like all other car companies spend a TON of money on market research. They would be silly to charge less than the market will support, and based on their numbers it looks like the prices aren't going to change much. Now some things IMO are wrong here. Things like good headlights are really not something that I think a car company should try to charge for. Sure they are probably not a deal breaker when someone is buying a car, but I think that it will bite them in the ass in the long run. MB and BMW both have this issue, sub par lights on a luxury car standard is a mistake. They must feel that people will pay for the upgrade. |
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05-06-2013, 05:36 PM | #123 |
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People have fun knocking Hyundai. I just helped someone buy a loaded 2011 Sonata and let me tell you, this is a very nice and well built car. It is not just the features, the car itself drives quite well and they are pretty darn good looking both inside and out. It is definitely not a BMW or Benz, but the gap sure is closing. Oh, and the newer ones can sure teach BMW a thing or two about reliability at less than half the price.
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05-06-2013, 05:41 PM | #124 |
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Just because it comes standard doesn't mean that company didnt charge you for it in the price.
If all companies were like BMW you'd be able to go pick up a cheap car fully stripped with just radio, air and power windows
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05-06-2013, 05:53 PM | #126 | |
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I didn't buy the car for the badge, but rather the look and feel. Immediately my critics badger me with the infamous question "Well, what if it had a Chevy badge instead of a BMW, would you still buy it?" The simple and easy reasoning here is that if Chevy can provide me the same product, same feel, same emotion, then yes I would buy a "Chevy 335i." Sadly, I personally have not been swayed by any of Chevy's products, in the same way my E92 did, to purchase from them. On the thoughts about BMW selling a subpar product in a market saturated with fierce competition, all I can say is hey, man's gotta make that dollar. It's just capitalism, can't do much ....except leave the country. |
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05-06-2013, 07:27 PM | #127 |
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I feel the exact same way towards the Xenon package. The Angel Eyes/Halos are BMWs Bread & Butter. Why make that an option? To be honest, I could care less about the HIDs, I just want the Angel Eyes/Halos to be standard. Does anyone else agree?
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05-06-2013, 09:13 PM | #128 | |
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Sure the Angel eyes are a defining feature for BMW's styling. They are awesome period. I just don't think world class manufacturers should be putting substandard parts in their cars at all, it simply makes the whole brand look bad. Hell, the OE bulbs for an E350 are a whopping $6.30 on parts.com. A set of Sylvania (OEM for many other car makers) almost triples the amount of light produced for something like $20. I have no other explanation for why MB would make the decision they did other than intentionally wanting them to be weak (btw, the xenon bulbs are $124.80 each). I don't have as much experience with BMW, but from what I have read, they appear to be similar. |
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go test a cloth seat no idrive non msport halogen etc. 116i or 118i lol. i'd prefer a mitsubishi lancer and if you've driven a non sport 1er on RFT's, you'll know the driving dynamics aren't a selling point haha the 1ers are already hard plastic enough without further downgrades, and without the m sport stuff and halos they're really ugly on the outside. they actually look a lot like a hyndai i30 or mid 2000's toyota corolla at that point... and they're still about 40-50% more expensive. |
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