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      11-11-2010, 11:32 AM   #23
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I have a procede, and a DCI but i was always in the catch up mode with my buddy ISF with Intake. I thinking about DP and hope i can take him the next time we meet in NY.
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      11-11-2010, 11:33 AM   #24
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isf is faster then an m3.....the isf also raced the m3 that had all of active autowerkes stuff but the supercharger and lost easy against the isf without spray. I raced both of them and the m3 was in last place by far
There is this misconception that the e9x M3 is butt slow. The truth is, the 6MT e9x M3 is slow due to the longer gearing... the DCT M3's can trap 114-115 all day long, a speed 90% of tuned N54 owners can't reach on pump gas.

I ran a DCT M3 in my 1er FBO without meth around 14.5 psi, and we were pulling roughly dead even. The great equalizer is that amazing DCT tranny vs my 6MT. I need more whp to make up for the insane shift speeds of a DCT tranny. DCT shifts in 0.08 seconds if I'm not mistaken, a "fast" 6MT shift WOT to WOT is somewhere around .25 seconds.
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      11-11-2010, 11:36 AM   #25
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Yeah that Lexus is no joke. I know for a fact that their faster than the m3 in a straight line. Stock vs stock
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      11-11-2010, 11:39 AM   #26
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All you need are high flow cat down pipes or catless pipes and a tune. That's it.
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      11-11-2010, 11:40 AM   #27
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If I am running maxed out (19psi on meth+race) then I should have no issues walking both a DCT M3 and IS-F, but we are talking about an average joe, not someone fully maxed out like me
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      11-11-2010, 12:00 PM   #28
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Stock M3 1/4 mile = 12.7
Stock ISF 1/4 mile = 12.9
Stock 335 1/4 mile = 13.3
Stage 1 335 1/4 mile = ~13.0
Stage 2 335 1/4 mile = ~12.5
Stage 3 335 1/4 mile = ~12.0
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      11-11-2010, 12:07 PM   #29
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I would run the gas almost empty and put in five gallons of race gas. Pick tune of choice and do 4 or 5 full pulls to let the system adapt to the new timing and boost.

How are you at launching or is this from a dig?
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      11-11-2010, 12:18 PM   #30
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So do we. non-sport at 130, sport at 155... unless you have an SLD or Procede
ya that's y with a tune your good

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There is this misconception that the e9x M3 is butt slow. The truth is, the 6MT e9x M3 is slow due to the longer gearing... the DCT M3's can trap 114-115 all day long, a speed 90% of tuned N54 owners can't reach on pump gas.

I ran a DCT M3 in my 1er FBO without meth around 14.5 psi, and we were pulling roughly dead even. The great equalizer is that amazing DCT tranny vs my 6MT. I need more whp to make up for the insane shift speeds of a DCT tranny. DCT shifts in 0.08 seconds if I'm not mistaken, a "fast" 6MT shift WOT to WOT is somewhere around .25 seconds.
ooo interesting. all the m3s that Ive raced have been Manuel, but that one that I raced with the ISF I wasn't sure....the guy looks like he has an auto/dtc. either way the m3 should at least keep up with us. I'm talking about we were doing 20-40 mph rolls all the way to like 150mph or so and that m3 with the active chip, intake, pulley, and exhuast couldn't even keep up. The only time the m3 was hanging in their was when the isf wasn't using the spray, but the isf still beat him.

my car traps 120+ all day

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      11-11-2010, 12:24 PM   #31
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You guys must be high to think the ISF is all that glorious. I was able to keep up (actually ahead of the ISF) until about 100mph and I only had GIAC stage 1, intercooler, intake, and 100 oct. I had a bad shift into fourth and that is the main reason why he pulled. Don't get shit just to race this guy though... because you will need to drop a lot of money to get the win.
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      11-11-2010, 12:26 PM   #32
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Just a tune and intake should take car of him. But i i think for under $900 you could have 400 whp lets see...........


Jb3- $350
DCI-$100
Meth-$250
installation-$200

So for $850 you could have 40whp more than he has and your lighter...CHow
I don't know where you get those numbers, but you don't want to do those modifications without an intercooler. And meth is not $250, lol.
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      11-11-2010, 12:32 PM   #33
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You guys must be high to think the ISF is all that glorious. I was able to keep up (actually ahead of the ISF) until about 100mph and I only had GIAC stage 1, intercooler, intake, and 100 oct. I had a bad shift into fourth and that is the main reason why he pulled. Don't get shit just to race this guy though... because you will need to drop a lot of money to get the win.
i completely agree the isf isn't all that fast and ya over 100mph i noticed the isf was starting to close the gap bet. us
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      11-11-2010, 01:45 PM   #34
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      11-11-2010, 01:53 PM   #35
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I thought an IS-F was about a 4.5 0-60mph car on a good day? Wouldn't take that much to run with it.

Like a few other said, tune, dual cone...that will get you close...and with meth, you win.
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      11-11-2010, 01:59 PM   #36
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what does 0-60 has to do with anything ?
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      11-11-2010, 03:53 PM   #37
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OT: speed limiter at 155 is for sissies....
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      11-11-2010, 04:15 PM   #38
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      11-11-2010, 04:30 PM   #39
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Tune + Meth and you should have a good chance at winning.
Would also recommend DCI and DP
Then FMIC to support
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      11-11-2010, 04:34 PM   #40
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All u need is a tune and 100 octane gas
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      11-11-2010, 05:34 PM   #41
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I came across this thread on the IS-F forum the other day:

http://www.lexusfforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3283
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      11-11-2010, 05:40 PM   #42
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      11-11-2010, 05:47 PM   #43
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Wow those guys are full of it... especially the guy who claims to have put the hurt on a Z06 with his ISF
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      11-11-2010, 05:51 PM   #44
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they run around a 12.8 stock. I would think a tune, race gas or meth, IC, DPs and you should be pretty good. I'm not an expert on straight line racing though
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