New Rims...Bad Vibration???

Kennedy · 08-14-2010, 10:24 AM

Hey guys just put on a pair of XXR 006 RIMS on my 2007 335i with sport package.... I am no getting a vibration most noticably that starts around 80 MPH and only gets worse as the speed increases. Is it possible that I need a hub ring in these??? Or do you think that the wheels just need to be rebalanced?

Figured I'd start with the re balance and go from there. Any help would be appreciated!

http://www.xxrwheels.com/sportmax_006.shtml

Kennedy · 08-14-2010, 10:28 AM

And if anyone can send me to a reputable tire shop in NJ that would be awesome!

Kennedy · 08-14-2010, 02:25 PM

Any takers?

DJKhan85 · 08-14-2010, 02:29 PM

Are the wheels hubcentric? Do they sit nicely on the "lip" when putting them on? If it was a balancing problem then it should show up at low speeds as well just not as bad. Could be tires. Did you get them balanced before putting them on?

Kennedy · 08-14-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJKhan85

Are the wheels hub centric? Do they sit nicely on the "lip" when putting them on? If it was a balancing problem then it should show up at low speeds as well just not as bad. Could be tires. Did you get them balanced before putting them on?

Unknown if the wheels are hub centric...called the manufacturer who stated all rims come with a spacer whether or not you need the spacer is on the customer. The rims I recieved from a buddy did not have a spacer. So again unknown....But to answer your question they did SEEM to fit nicely when I put them on no excessive play.

Wheels were balanced, however I am going to re balance them to be on the safe side. Tires are brand new Toyo's. Vibration is most noticeable between 80-100 however it is barely there from 60+

Mr. 5 · 08-14-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kennedy

Unknown if the wheels are hub centric...called the manufacturer who stated all rims come with a spacer whether or not you need the spacer is on the customer. The rims I recieved from a buddy did not have a spacer. So again unknown....But to answer your question they did SEEM to fit nicely when I put them on no excessive play.

Wheels were balanced, however I am going to re balance them to be on the safe side. Tires are brand new Toyo's. Vibration is most noticeable between 80-100 however it is barely there from 60+

I'll bet you that they are not balanced right.

Kennedy · 08-14-2010, 09:47 PM

I hope that would be the best thing to be wrong!

Geonator · 08-14-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I'll bet you that they are not balanced right.

+1

They're not balanced right.

Get them reblanaced and that should fix your prob.

Kennedy · 08-15-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Geonator

+1

They're not balanced right.

Get them reblanaced and that should fix your prob.

Had a long ride home last night....decided to keep it slow on the highway...65...and wow the vibrations where even noticeable then! I'm starting to think it is a balance....getting it done first thing Monday!

VMRWheels · 08-16-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kennedy

Had a long ride home last night....decided to keep it slow on the highway...65...and wow the vibrations where even noticeable then! I'm starting to think it is a balance....getting it done first thing Monday!

Before you waste your money on getting them re-balanced, take the wheels off and get a digital caliper to check if they are hub centric 72.6 cb If not, then that is your issue. You'll need hub centric rings which are a few dollars.

-Charles@VMRWheels

Kennedy · 08-16-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VMRWheels

Before you waste your money on getting them re-balanced, take the wheels off and get a digital caliper to check if they are hub centric 72.6 cb If not, then that is your issue. You'll need hub centric rings which are a few dollars.

-Charles@VMRWheels

Thanks Charles I'll be picking one up tomorrow and checking!! Keep you guys updated! Appreciate the help!

VMRWheels · 08-17-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kennedy

Thanks Charles I'll be picking one up tomorrow and checking!! Keep you guys updated! Appreciate the help!

No problem. Let us know how it goes.

-Charles@VMRWheels

Ryan@IND · 08-17-2010, 12:46 PM

hub centric or not will make a difference.
Also vibration at above 70mph usually tends to be the balancing.
As charles mentioned, i would check the hub diameter to make sure that they are hub centric. If not, you can always purchase the rings to make them.

If they are still off, even though, they are hub centric, i would be inclined to think that they are not balanced right or that the wheels have a run off issue (not perfectly circular).

Kennedy · 08-17-2010, 01:45 PM

Well guys took it to a reputable tire place on the way in to work...turns out the rear hubs do not have enough lip to fit the rims and make them sit flush....the guys suggested either getting a 1/8" spacer built to put in and there should be no problems....They spun the wheel by hand to show me how bad of a wobble it was!!! Crazy!! They said that I was lucky the lug nuts didn't loosen up on me yet!

Anyone know where I can find 1/8" spacers?

Thanks to all for the help, much appreciated!

VMRWheels · 08-17-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kennedy

Well guys took it to a reputable tire place on the way in to work...turns out the rear hubs do not have enough lip to fit the rims and make them sit flush....the guys suggested either getting a 1/8" spacer built to put in and there should be no problems....They spun the wheel by hand to show me how bad of a wobble it was!!! Crazy!! They said that I was lucky the lug nuts didn't loosen up on me yet!

Anyone know where I can find 1/8" spacers?

Thanks to all for the help, much appreciated!

So they are saying you need hub extenders? That is extremely strange... Are you running any spacers?

-Charles@VMRWheels

tlrid3r · 08-17-2010, 05:57 PM

I think the reason they are saying that, is because the wheel center bore must be smaller than the hub size. (example rims hub 70 and car hub 72.6) if this is the case you should really think twice before using these wheels. Let hope is not

Kennedy · 08-17-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by VMRWheels

So they are saying you need hub extenders? That is extremely strange... Are you running any spacers?

-Charles@VMRWheels

From my understanding they stated the lip of my hub isn't allowing the rim to sit flush, therefore the rim hub (too shallow for car wheel hub) surface does not sit flush on the car hub. They stated that by adding a 1/8" size wheel spacer or so would fix the problem without a doubt.

Does this still sound odd? I will be taking pictures tomorrow with better detail.

For now here is a rough sketch depicting the problem to my understanding.

Kennedy · 08-18-2010, 02:06 PM

Any vendors have any ideas if this will work...if so PM me and I will be buying spacers ASAP with next day air delivery.

Kennedy · 08-21-2010, 03:38 PM

Put 3mm spacers in the rear....vibration much less however now noticeable around 40mph+ steering wheel wobble...

larns576 · 08-25-2010, 03:45 PM

It sounds like you are saying the car's hub lip sticks so far out that the wheel doesnt sit flush against the rotor and they installed a spacer to fill in the gap. Was that spacer hub centric? Did it have a lip that fits snugly onto the wheel? Does the fronts have the same fitment problem?
The wheels appear to not be made for your car.

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Kennedy Enlisted Member 5 Rep 46 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, Toyota T100 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Well guys took it to a reputable tire place on the way in to work...turns out the rear hubs do not have enough lip to fit the rims and make them sit flush....the guys suggested either getting a 1/8" spacer built to put in and there should be no problems....They spun the wheel by hand to show me how bad of a wobble it was!!! Crazy!! They said that I was lucky the lug nuts didn't loosen up on me yet! Anyone know where I can find 1/8" spacers? Thanks to all for the help, much appreciated!
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tlrid3r just another M3 514 Rep 1,150 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Jose, ca iTrader: (6)	I think the reason they are saying that, is because the wheel center bore must be smaller than the hub size. (example rims hub 70 and car hub 72.6) if this is the case you should really think twice before using these wheels. Let hope is not
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Kennedy Enlisted Member 5 Rep 46 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, Toyota T100 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Any vendors have any ideas if this will work...if so PM me and I will be buying spacers ASAP with next day air delivery.
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Kennedy Enlisted Member 5 Rep 46 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, Toyota T100 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Put 3mm spacers in the rear....vibration much less however now noticeable around 40mph+ steering wheel wobble...
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larns576 New Member 2 Rep 21 Posts Drives: 328i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: SF, CA iTrader: (0)	It sounds like you are saying the car's hub lip sticks so far out that the wheel doesnt sit flush against the rotor and they installed a spacer to fill in the gap. Was that spacer hub centric? Did it have a lip that fits snugly onto the wheel? Does the fronts have the same fitment problem? The wheels appear to not be made for your car.
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