Time to Take this to the Courts (PS PULLEY AND SERPENTINE BELT)

Mr.Snail · 07-07-2013, 07:39 PM

Another belt gone...... shredded my belt into pieces and my pulley has huge chunk missing.....

if there is no solution other than replacing the sub-frame which is $600 part, i was considering grinding away a little material where the pulley comes in contact with the frame.

CBR6n335Iracer · 08-29-2013, 03:50 PM

any updates on this situation?

Nanotech214 · 09-09-2013, 05:45 PM

Is there any update on this? I'm about to replace my belt for the 2nd time in less than a year -____-

CrazyTiger · 09-11-2013, 07:13 PM

same here

nukezero · 09-21-2013, 01:20 PM

Need more people to lawyer up on this. Unfortunately, since this only happens on 07 and mid 08 models, there isn't that much population of people for a large class action lawsuit yet.

ibd12nv · 11-05-2013, 09:52 AM

Wow now I'm afraid to drive.

biscut · 11-07-2013, 12:38 PM

Is there a way you can check your vehicle for this defect? Mine is e90 build date is 02/08.

euro92 · 12-16-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by biscut

Is there a way you can check your vehicle for this defect? Mine is e90 build date is 02/08.

Do a google search for: Check Your Serpentine Belt (SIB 11 09 08 - Power Steering Pulley and Subframe)
PM if you have any questions.

This is a design flaw that warrants a class action.

CrazyTiger · 02-12-2014, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euro92

Do a google search for: Check Your Serpentine Belt (SIB 11 09 08 - Power Steering Pulley and Subframe)
PM if you have any questions.

This is a design flaw that warrants a class action.

We need to bring this thing up again. Any known class action regarding to this issue?

SSW · 02-13-2014, 12:28 AM

Is this just a problem w/2007's or does it also affect 2008's? FWIW, my car was produced in June 2007 but is a 2008 model.

njleeson · 02-21-2014, 09:48 PM

I went in for new breaks today and my mechanic showed me that the pully was broken and i didn't have a belt. it also damaged some electronic. not a huge bill but if this is a BMW issue i wouldn't mind missing a repair bill.

CrazyTiger · 03-01-2014, 03:26 AM

It is a BMW issue SIB110908 but they refuse to admit it. How could you be able to drive when you dont have the belt?

euro92 · 03-07-2014, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSW

Is this just a problem w/2007's or does it also affect 2008's? FWIW, my car was produced in June 2007 but is a 2008 model.

Per SIB 11 09 08
E82, E88 (1 Series) with N54 engine up to 4/08
E90, E92, E93 (3 Series) with N54 engine up to 4/08 except xi models

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyTiger

We need to bring this thing up again. Any known class action regarding to this issue?

Everyone should keep their receipts and work orders for reimbursement in case this actually happens one day.

SSW · 03-08-2014, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euro92

Per SIB 11 09 08
E82, E88 (1 Series) with N54 engine up to 4/08
E90, E92, E93 (3 Series) with N54 engine up to 4/08 except xi models

Everyone should keep their receipts and work orders for reimbursement in case this actually happens one day.

Yeah, I read that in the 1st post.

The bulletin, however, says that it mainly occurs as a result of the engine mount flex when "driving at a high rates of speed over curbs and speed bumps." Not sure what "high rates of speed" means or why anyone would do that while driving over "curbs and speed bumps."

No indication of any belt/pulley problems w/my car yet, but I'll keep an eye on it.

fl335i · 04-01-2014, 01:35 PM

I have a 7/2007 E90 335i. Great... 57k. I'm about ready to just dump this car. Now I know why so many people drive the Lexus/Infiniti/Acura's. The MB/BMW/Audi/VW is good stuff, with lots of problems. How is BMW not required to do a recall? Toyota had a human error with their gas pedals.... did a huge recall, and nothing was ever even found!!!

JOHNNY-5 · 04-15-2014, 10:11 AM

tag as this just happened to me yesterday. Belt shredded to pieces. I just had the drive belt replaced on 12/20/12 with 78950 miles. I now have 89000 miles on the odo.

twinship · 04-15-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 335-EYE

tag as this just happened to me yesterday. Belt shredded to pieces. I just had the drive belt replaced on 12/20/12 with 78950 miles. I now have 89000 miles on the odo.

Did you drive over a curb or hit a huge pothole?

In my case, it was caused by getting rear-ended. The jolt apparently shifted the engine on its mounts enough to cause the pulley/belt to contact the frame. A few days later, the belt broke. Suddenly there was no power steering... very dangerous!

JOHNNY-5 · 04-16-2014, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinship

Did you drive over a curb or hit a huge pothole?

In my case, it was caused by getting rear-ended. The jolt apparently shifted the engine on its mounts enough to cause the pulley/belt to contact the frame. A few days later, the belt broke. Suddenly there was no power steering... very dangerous!

No pot holes or speed bumps, but the road wasn't in the greates of shapes either.

jAb · 04-24-2014, 04:13 PM

im on my 3rd belt in as many weeks
just happened again today after hitting a pothole and im pissed
my car is an '09 (not sure of build date)
anyone in san diego have any luck getting one of the dealers here to cover under warranty?

fl335i · 04-25-2014, 08:39 PM

I was reading a motor trend or whomever article the other day and it was for a 2011 335is review test drive. They talked about how the engine is still the old N54, and making like 320HP and one thing they stated caught my attention. They said one change was the motor mounts are beefed up to handle the extra power. I wonder if we could look at using "is" motor mounts. Just a thought here..

Mr.Tran · 04-26-2014, 09:07 AM

How much did BMW NA cover for those who got assistance?

Sean978 · 05-11-2014, 07:00 AM

This happened to me while running at the drag strip a few nights ago. PS pulley contacted the subframe during a quarter mile run shifting from 3rd-4th gear. Serpentine belt shredded and pulley was damaged. Had to be trailered home.

Has anyone upgraded the left side motor mount to an aftermarket or even 335iS mount? I suspect if the mount goes to shit on that side then replacing the serpentine belt and PS pulley isn't fixing the root cause, it's just fixing the symptom, and this will continually be a problem with spirited driving.

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Mr.Snail Private First Class 12 Rep 142 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: North East iTrader: (2)	Another belt gone...... shredded my belt into pieces and my pulley has huge chunk missing..... if there is no solution other than replacing the sub-frame which is $600 part, i was considering grinding away a little material where the pulley comes in contact with the frame.
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Nanotech214 New Member 0 Rep 5 Posts Drives: Black 2007 335i e90 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dallas tx iTrader: (0)	Is there any update on this? I'm about to replace my belt for the 2nd time in less than a year -____-
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CrazyTiger Private 4 Rep 93 Posts Drives: E92 335 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Indiana iTrader: (2)	same here
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nukezero Major 343 Rep 1,465 Posts Drives: BMW 3 series Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Irvine iTrader: (8)	Need more people to lawyer up on this. Unfortunately, since this only happens on 07 and mid 08 models, there isn't that much population of people for a large class action lawsuit yet.
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11-05-2013, 09:52 AM	#28
ibd12nv Chief Warrant Officer 4 53 Rep 726 Posts Drives: 335I, E46 M3, X5M Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Back in the US iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E90 335i [10.00]	Wow now I'm afraid to drive. __________________
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biscut Private 3 Rep 95 Posts Drives: 2008 328XI Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: NewYorkistan iTrader: (0)	Is there a way you can check your vehicle for this defect? Mine is e90 build date is 02/08.
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02-13-2014, 12:28 AM	#32
SSW I Can't Drive 55 129 Rep 883 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 335i (E90) Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (4) Garage List 2023 VW ID4 Pro [0.00] 2002 Ford F250 7.3L ... [9.50] 2008 BMW 335i [0.00] 2012 Mercedes ML350 [0.00] 2002 Toyota MR2 Spyder [0.00]	Is this just a problem w/2007's or does it also affect 2008's? FWIW, my car was produced in June 2007 but is a 2008 model. __________________ 2008 Black Sapphire 335i E90 Sport & Premium Pkgs - Cobb Stage 1+FMIC Sport map, Mishimoto FMIC & Alpina B3 AT Flash. See: My Build Thread.
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njleeson New Member 0 Rep 10 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: EastBay iTrader: (0) Garage List 07 335i [0.00]	I went in for new breaks today and my mechanic showed me that the pully was broken and i didn't have a belt. it also damaged some electronic. not a huge bill but if this is a BMW issue i wouldn't mind missing a repair bill.
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CrazyTiger Private 4 Rep 93 Posts Drives: E92 335 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Indiana iTrader: (2)	It is a BMW issue SIB110908 but they refuse to admit it. How could you be able to drive when you dont have the belt? Last edited by CrazyTiger; 03-01-2014 at 03:31 AM..
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fl335i Captain 146 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: FL iTrader: (2)	I have a 7/2007 E90 335i. Great... 57k. I'm about ready to just dump this car. Now I know why so many people drive the Lexus/Infiniti/Acura's. The MB/BMW/Audi/VW is good stuff, with lots of problems. How is BMW not required to do a recall? Toyota had a human error with their gas pedals.... did a huge recall, and nothing was ever even found!!! __________________ '07 335i Sedan, base pkg, 6spd Manual, Procede 3 V5 w/NLS, Macht Schnell Downpipes, 18" Staggered 313's w/Conti DWS's, OS Giken TCD LSD, VAC Street Diff Cover, Dinan Oil Cooler, Dinan Intercooler, Akebono Euro Pads, CDV Removed, Black BMW Grilles, Interior & Exterior white LED lighting, LUX Angel Eyes, Debadged, Blend V1 mount, Llumar ATR Tint.
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JOHNNY-5 Lieutenant 49 Rep 537 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 6MT ZCP Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Portland, Ory-Gun iTrader: (8)	tag as this just happened to me yesterday. Belt shredded to pieces. I just had the drive belt replaced on 12/20/12 with 78950 miles. I now have 89000 miles on the odo.
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jAb New Member 0 Rep 7 Posts Drives: 09 335i & 00 328Ci Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	im on my 3rd belt in as many weeks just happened again today after hitting a pothole and im pissed my car is an '09 (not sure of build date) anyone in san diego have any luck getting one of the dealers here to cover under warranty?
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04-25-2014, 08:39 PM	#42
fl335i Captain 146 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: FL iTrader: (2)	I was reading a motor trend or whomever article the other day and it was for a 2011 335is review test drive. They talked about how the engine is still the old N54, and making like 320HP and one thing they stated caught my attention. They said one change was the motor mounts are beefed up to handle the extra power. I wonder if we could look at using "is" motor mounts. Just a thought here.. __________________ '07 335i Sedan, base pkg, 6spd Manual, Procede 3 V5 w/NLS, Macht Schnell Downpipes, 18" Staggered 313's w/Conti DWS's, OS Giken TCD LSD, VAC Street Diff Cover, Dinan Oil Cooler, Dinan Intercooler, Akebono Euro Pads, CDV Removed, Black BMW Grilles, Interior & Exterior white LED lighting, LUX Angel Eyes, Debadged, Blend V1 mount, Llumar ATR Tint.
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Sean978 Private First Class 35 Rep 120 Posts Drives: 2007 335i 6MT SGM Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Nashua, NH iTrader: (0)	This happened to me while running at the drag strip a few nights ago. PS pulley contacted the subframe during a quarter mile run shifting from 3rd-4th gear. Serpentine belt shredded and pulley was damaged. Had to be trailered home. Has anyone upgraded the left side motor mount to an aftermarket or even 335iS mount? I suspect if the mount goes to shit on that side then replacing the serpentine belt and PS pulley isn't fixing the root cause, it's just fixing the symptom, and this will continually be a problem with spirited driving.
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