Put in the JB3 and had a run in with a C63

Ferre86 · 07-31-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenPlease

From a dig, maybe you have a chance.

i had CL63 , its easy i could feel the diffrience between both car, 63's or most of the amg cars are heavy but serious top ending high gears, 3.35's not even that much powerfull with all these mods,

M3R1 · 07-31-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniz

the 2 c63's i saw at the drag strip were turning some high traps, great 60 ft times, and low ets. your going to have to be perfect in the 335 w/ strong mods and race gas to keep up, then as your little baby turbo's start to cook the c63 will pull HARD on top end.

The fact that this is even debateable should make the N54 community happy...

kjrulz · 07-31-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by M3R1

The fact that this is even debateable should make the N54 community happy...

denial.

Alpine335TT · 08-19-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSJ5

A JB3 335i with bolt ons and MS109 will pull on a stock C63 easily, and it will pull on a CLK63 Black Series which has 50 more BHP than the stock C63 about that same as a tuned one, but it most likely won't pull on pump fuel, but could give it a good run like soko suggested. These vids are the same Modded M3 vs. Modded C63 470 WHP, posted earlier.

Same Modded M3 vs. Stock CLK63 Black series AMG +50 HP on a Stock C63

Same Modded M3 vs. 335i 6mt, JB3 Map 11, all the bolt ons, MS109

Rematch Modded M3 and Stage 3 C63 470whp

Excuse the ignorance, but what's MS109?

Sniz · 08-19-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpine335TT

Excuse the ignorance, but what's MS109?

VP racing's highest octane unleaded race gas....its 105 octane.

its crack for boosted cars.

Alpine335TT · 08-19-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniz

VP racing's highest octane unleaded race gas....its 105 octane.

its crack for boosted cars.

Cool, thanks Sniz.

BTW, when you bringing your car out on a drive with us? We're doing skyline drive this sunday with the 6speedonline guys.

Sniz · 08-19-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpine335TT

Cool, thanks Sniz.

BTW, when you bringing your car out on a drive with us? We're doing skyline drive this sunday with the 6speedonline guys.

soon I hope, but its going under the knife starting this evening. New and bigger turbo and meth injection, new intake mani plus other goodies

vgame64 · 08-19-2009, 02:22 PM

I think a Dinan Stroker equipped E60 M5 vs the C63 AMG would be a more even match.

Bagelfast · 08-19-2009, 02:35 PM

LOL no even a Stock or exhaust only M5 will beat a stock C63.

Proper Motion LLC · 08-20-2009, 12:47 AM

I say a JB3/Proceed, IC, Downpipes, DCI & 100 octane 335i can keep up, or maybe even be ahead of a stock C63 with same 100 octane gas up to 110-115 mph.

After that the superior top end gearing of the C63 will start pulling ahead.

335i + 200lb driver = 3800lbs
335i w/ above mods = 380RWHP (race gas owns with turbo cars)

C63 + 200lb driver = 4100lbs
C63 = 380RWHP (race gas doesn't do much with big V8)

Cool weather and high elevation and the 335i will smoke it to about 120 MPH

GhostyM · 08-20-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 09AlpineTTSedan

I say a JB3/Proceed, IC, Downpipes, DCI & 100 octane 335i can keep up, or maybe even be ahead of a stock C63 with same 100 octane gas up to 110-115 mph.

After that the superior top end gearing of the C63 will start pulling ahead.

335i + 200lb driver = 3800lbs
335i w/ above mods = 380RWHP (race gas owns with turbo cars)

C63 + 200lb driver = 4100lbs
C63 = 380RWHP (race gas doesn't do much with big V8)

Cool weather and high elevation and the 335i will smoke it to about 120 MPH

On the M3Post forums, PencilGeek has seen gains of 30rwhp on his stock (at the time) E92 M3 just to see what it would do with race gas.

You can find it on M3post. I would think the MB V8's would also benefit quite a bit.

Alpine335TT · 08-20-2009, 01:51 AM

i'm not really sure there's much a bolt-on 335 could do to hang with C63 at high speeds. for instance, i have no problem walking away from M3s.. even with bolt-ons.. however i pull 1-2 car lengths from the get go due to torque.. then they hang around..

there's no replacement for displacement...

Bagelfast · 08-20-2009, 01:56 AM

A member on this forum raced a tuned C63 with no cats from 30-120mph, the 335i sedan has a Jb3 and no sec cats and no resonators, on map7 93 octane only mods. The 335i got the jump and lost by 1-1/2 cars. i was there to see it. without jump would have lost 2 cars 2 to 2 1/2 cars.
The owner of the C63 said that the same 335i will give a very good run to a stock C63.

Jb3 only e92 335i, map 7, 93 octane, raced a 6Mt e92 335i, 20-120, beat it by 2 cars.

This was in mexico. Sorry no vids, but im sure the the forum member can tell the story.

ducati955 · 08-21-2009, 10:20 AM

damn, never knew they were such monsters!

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vgame64 Colonel 141 Rep 2,479 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (9)	I think a Dinan Stroker equipped E60 M5 vs the C63 AMG would be a more even match.
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Bagelfast Lieutenant Colonel 125 Rep 1,546 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	LOL no even a Stock or exhaust only M5 will beat a stock C63.
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Proper Motion LLC Custom Powder Coater 147 Rep 2,784 Posts Drives: White 335i Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Orange County CA iTrader: (2)	I say a JB3/Proceed, IC, Downpipes, DCI & 100 octane 335i can keep up, or maybe even be ahead of a stock C63 with same 100 octane gas up to 110-115 mph. After that the superior top end gearing of the C63 will start pulling ahead. 335i + 200lb driver = 3800lbs 335i w/ above mods = 380RWHP (race gas owns with turbo cars) C63 + 200lb driver = 4100lbs C63 = 380RWHP (race gas doesn't do much with big V8) Cool weather and high elevation and the 335i will smoke it to about 120 MPH __________________ www.propermotion714.com
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Alpine335TT Major 146 Rep 1,403 Posts Drives: LCI E92 M-Sport 335i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: DC Metro iTrader: (5)	i'm not really sure there's much a bolt-on 335 could do to hang with C63 at high speeds. for instance, i have no problem walking away from M3s.. even with bolt-ons.. however i pull 1-2 car lengths from the get go due to torque.. then they hang around.. there's no replacement for displacement... __________________ Current: E46 M3 (CB) Retired: E92 335i (AW) // E92 LCI M-Sport 335i (LMB) MISCHIEF.TV
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Bagelfast Lieutenant Colonel 125 Rep 1,546 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	A member on this forum raced a tuned C63 with no cats from 30-120mph, the 335i sedan has a Jb3 and no sec cats and no resonators, on map7 93 octane only mods. The 335i got the jump and lost by 1-1/2 cars. i was there to see it. without jump would have lost 2 cars 2 to 2 1/2 cars. The owner of the C63 said that the same 335i will give a very good run to a stock C63. Jb3 only e92 335i, map 7, 93 octane, raced a 6Mt e92 335i, 20-120, beat it by 2 cars. This was in mexico. Sorry no vids, but im sure the the forum member can tell the story.
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