[so?confused]

Originally Posted by zeel

I always felt a true car enthusiast can appreciate any nice vehicle regardless of preferences. You may not like them, but the respect should be there.

Im with you on this one, i want them all! lol

[berk]

Originally Posted by sssge

This might be a stupid thread.
I feel my car is a bit slower these days.
I own 07' 335i and drove it with camaro ss 5.7.
and I feel like somethins wrong with my car.
Do you think I need to check up my car?
I love e92 and proud of owning this car like other members do.
But I feel like the car is little slower.
and I still don't think camaro is not even a competitor for my car.
What can I do to make it faster without touching the engine?

hey,

i raced one of those camaro on the highway about a year ago with my 09 e92 335i, and i beat it on straight line, it was from 60 to 110mph ! my car was bone stock!

Thanks

[roo97ss]

Originally Posted by berk

hey,

i raced one of those camaro on the highway about a year ago with my 09 e92 335i, and i beat it on straight line, it was from 60 to 110mph ! my car was bone stock!

Thanks

they're old and many are tired and beaten down now. anything can happen on the street. also, might have been an older lt1 car which isn't as powerful.

The LT1 made about 260 rwhp, the ls1 290-320.

We had about 7 or 8 total.
LT1 was 13.7-14.0@100-102
early LS1 was 13.1-13.5@105-7
had 01 (better intake 01 and 02) ws6 that ran 12.9@109

it will take a tune to beat a well running one...

[Litos]

Originally Posted by zeel

I always felt a true car enthusiast can appreciate any nice vehicle regardless of preferences. You may not like them, but the respect should be there.

i agree 100%. some people are just extremely narrow minded.

and to be honest with you, this "german engineered" car is the most sensitive car that i have ever owned. POS can barely handle any power without knocking or blowing up the fuel system HAHAHA !!!.

i still love i though, but far from being God's gift...

vehicles i've owned since 2004

[Willizm]

Originally Posted by 335iCoupe1382

Germans still make the best and most refined cars in the world. In the long run the Vette and Caddy will rust out and break down while the fine German cars will still run and look new minus the HPFP!
Seriously, you get what you paid for.

Oh yeah, why is it that most people will sell their bmw once the warranty is over? I don't doubt that bmw's are some of the best engineered cars on the road, but they aren't engineered to last. I've fixed less things on my 10 year old trans am then having my brand new bmw in the shop over the past year. Third time going in to fix the headlights, replacing injectors and HPFP on Monday! Yea!!!

[indy99gpgt]

Sorry to revive and old thread. Any american car with an Ls engine is going to give you a run for your money.

btw, That is a nice looking TA. The LS1 is the best engine you can possibly ever own. I do want to say one thing about the posters hating on american muscle cars. It seem that you are the type of people that drive BMW's for the image and status and not for the performance. When I buy a car or am wanting to buy a car, the first thing i look at is aftermarket. All I care about is how fast it is/can be. I dont care what the inside or outside is like, or if it has this feature or that feature. I hang out with a pretty large group of car enthusiats. The majority of them make 600+ WHP. All I care about is beating the guy next to me. 4 wide racing on the highways at 2 in the morning is not uncommon. I dont condone street racing but...it happens. I bought this bmw because I saw a potential to have a platform that can easily get to 500+ whp (i guess i should have reaserched more. Kind of a long shot now.)

[shifterboy45]

Originally Posted by zeel

I always felt a true car enthusiast can appreciate any nice vehicle regardless of preferences. You may not like them, but the respect should be there.

true true ---

[shifterboy45]

Originally Posted by indy99gpgt

Sorry to revive and old thread. Any american car with an Ls engine is going to give you a run for your money.

btw, That is a nice looking TA. The LS1 is the best engine you can possibly ever own. I do want to say one thing about the posters hating on american muscle cars. It seem that you are the type of people that drive BMW's for the image and status and not for the performance. When I buy a car or am wanting to buy a car, the first thing i look at is aftermarket. All I care about is how fast it is/can be. I dont care what the inside or outside is like, or if it has this feature or that feature. I hang out with a pretty large group of car enthusiats. The majority of them make 600+ WHP. All I care about is beating the guy next to me. 4 wide racing on the highways at 2 in the morning is not uncommon. I dont condone street racing but...it happens. I bought this bmw because I saw a potential to have a platform that can easily get to 500+ whp (i guess i should have reaserched more. Kind of a long shot now.)

looking at your location tells a lot about how most people feel about cars --

when you have been around different types of cars -- good bad or indifferent, your appreciation for the little things increases. ive teched on 3 diffferent car lines starting with GM -- so i was a Chevy tech who used to drive a Ford, working for BMW..

yes i drive a E92 -- but got my 93 SSP Mustang that ill NEVER part with...

p.s. -- living close to a racetrack makes you wanna go fast -- that why i live at least 40miles from the closest oval track --

[WilliamE92]

if its a semi worked LS1 it'll poop all over the n54 any day of the week

[Litos]

Originally Posted by WilliamE92

if its a semi worked LS1 it'll poop all over the n54 any day of the week

sorry to revive an old thread, but this is true.

there's a reason why 98-2002 f-bodies were dipping into the high 12's with only DR's in bone stock form.

the LSx based engine has to be one of the most mod friendly and power making engines on the market. a basic tuned LS1 with a lid, long tubes and exhaust would work the shit out of a 335 with PROcede or JB4.

[Proper Motion LLC]

Originally Posted by Litos

a basic tuned LS1 with a lid, long tubes and exhaust would work the shit out of a 335 with PROcede or JB4.

No it wouldn't

It would be a fairly close race, both cars capable of trapping over 110.

And if the race is being setup than it's no contest, run 100 octane in the 335i, and a race gas map and the LS1 will get murdered.

[135forthewin]

I, uh, heard a story *cough cough* that a e92 335i 6mt with DCI, catback, and JB4 on map 2 walked a camaro with headers, exhaust, intake and tune.

Just a story I've heard though.

[Joshboody]

I've been doing some reading on ls1tech.... great site for knowledge. Tuning is very important with these engines to take advantage of the mods and if done right with bolt ons and cam, n54 would need FBO plus meth to keep it close.

i ran 108mph stock with a 99 camaro

[GG335i]

I just sold my 2001 SS camaro 6speed w/ just bassani ORY, MTI lid, pully stock cat back w/ cut out, I ran consistant 12.5's at 112mph w/ DR tire.
Moving up to a 2009 cyber gray Z06 soon.

My wifes 2007 335i is such a smooth ride and handles better than any f-body I ever owned. I just had the HPFP and injectors replaced with the recall, so time for a tune and intake. Just need to make sure I change settings when the wife drives during the week.

[Proper Motion LLC]

Originally Posted by Joshboody

I've been doing some reading on ls1tech.... great site for knowledge. Tuning is very important with these engines to take advantage of the mods and if done right with bolt ons and cam, n54 would need FBO plus meth to keep it close.

i ran 108mph stock with a 99 camaro

A cam install alone is going to run you $1000-1400 alone in labor.

A LS1 F Body definatly needs full bolt ons and a cam to beat a FBO 335i.

If were talking 1/4 mile times the LS1 could get away with less with a upgraded torque converter and stall and possibly outrun the 335i, but the FBO 335i should trap higher.

[Proper Motion LLC]

Originally Posted by GG335i

I just sold my 2001 SS camaro 6speed w/ just bassani ORY, MTI lid, pully stock cat back w/ cut out, I ran consistant 12.5's at 112mph w/ DR tire.
Moving up to a 2009 cyber gray Z06 soon.

My wifes 2007 335i is such a smooth ride and handles better than any f-body I ever owned. I just had the HPFP and injectors replaced with the recall, so time for a tune and intake. Just need to make sure I change settings when the wife drives during the week.

And Hotrods 335i ran high 11's with drag radials and tune only.

[Litos]

Originally Posted by Joshboody

i ran 108mph stock with a 99 camaro

yeah, Z28's, SS's, WS6, Formulas, etc run some sickening times in stock form.

12.9 - 13.3 @ 106+

listen - if you took a bone stock 335 and gave it a JB4 tune, i STILL don't see it beating an f-body with just a stall on DR's (100% stock).

for every 100 "11sec f-bodies", you might have 7 or 8 "11sec E90's"

running 11's in a mildly bolted on f-body is the norm, mainly due to modding prices and vehicle availability/age.

stock for stock, the f-body should pull a 335 any day of the week from either a dig or a roll, and rightfully so.

[Imperator]

Originally Posted by Rysandro

A cam install alone is going to run you $1000-1400 alone in labor.

A LS1 F Body definatly needs full bolt ons and a cam to beat a FBO 335i.

If were talking 1/4 mile times the LS1 could get away with less with a upgraded torque converter and stall and possibly outrun the 335i, but the FBO 335i should trap higher.

Please, just stop.

I don't think I paid more than $500 for the cam install with pushrods, retainers and new valvesprings in my Firehawk. A well tuned, cam-only LS1 car can walk a FBO 335i. Meth and race gas are the only remaining tricks for the N54.

"Stall" [speed], "loose" or "flash" are words used to describe a performance torque converter. Effectively, an upgraded torque converter will have a higher stall speed; they're not different components.

[Proper Motion LLC]

Originally Posted by Imperator

Please, just stop.

I don't think I paid more than $500 for the cam install with pushrods, retainers and new valvesprings in my Firehawk. A well tuned, cam-only LS1 car can walk a FBO 335i. Meth and race gas are the only remaining tricks for the N54.

"Stall" [speed], "loose" or "flash" are words used to describe a performance torque converter. Effectively, an upgraded torque converter will have a higher stall speed; they're not different components.

I'm sorry for looking up ls1tech.com for price on install, and everything that came up was over $1000. The best deal I saw was $800 for install alone.

[Proper Motion LLC]

Originally Posted by Imperator

Please, just stop.

A well tuned, cam-only LS1 car can walk a FBO 335i.

Dude not even the guys at LS1Tech would believe that..


You must mean FBO + Cam.

[Proper Motion LLC]

Originally Posted by Litos

yeah, Z28's, SS's, WS6, Formulas, etc run some sickening times in stock form.

12.9 - 13.3 @ 106+

listen - if you took a bone stock 335 and gave it a JB4 tune, i STILL don't see it beating an f-body with just a stall on DR's (100% stock).

The 335i would trap higher, guaranteed.

[Imperator]

Originally Posted by Rysandro

Dude not even the guys at LS1Tech would believe that..


You must mean FBO + Cam.

Really? I've been on LS1Tech since 2002. I'm not sure the concept would be out of reach.

The terminology is different among the communities. Here "FBO" implies tune, FMIC, catless DPs, possibly catless exhaust and maybe meth.

"FBO" doesn't exist to the LSx community as just about anything can be a bolt on, from heads to a Magnacharger. "Cam only" implies cam, longtubes, intake manifold, ported throttle body and tune. Heads and short block are stock. That can be worth anywhere from 380 RWHP on an older LS1 up to nearly 500 to the wheels on a new LS3.