My Christmas "SCAM" Story

Richurd · 12-25-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Game

http://www.e90post.com/forums/member.php?u=184331

I believe his other name was M3LOLS

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Originally Posted by m603

i was 1hr away from buying these same lights... sorry to hear bro. at the time, i kinda felt the deal was too good to be true....

Lucky you didn't buy it or simply I could have picked it for you lol.

gds52 · 12-25-2012, 12:48 PM

Sad to know about your bad experience. I hope you recover some money.

This is the reason I never buy anything used online, no matter how much money I will save or how good the seller is.
I never buy anything online from a private seller.

korr · 12-25-2012, 01:34 PM

ce na niang ah cuo bi gang luan

onebadmofo · 12-25-2012, 01:59 PM

I sent you a PM, might have more info.

///M3NACE · 12-25-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by onebadmofo

I sent you a PM, might have more info.

details plz! lol

Mike L · 12-25-2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ihsanshaik

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Originally Posted by onebadmofo

I sent you a PM, might have more info.

details plz! lol

Need to know basis. By putting it out here in the public, we jeopardize a lot. There are plenty of law enforcement officers on here that could easily track this POS down, but by putting sensitive info regarding someone's personal information, could risk our jobs.

N55 · 12-25-2012, 06:43 PM

I learned this lesson a few years back. Now, I never buy anything unless it has crystal clear pictures. Now in days, it is really not that hard to get a nice picture (Heck, even from an iPhone).

electro-house · 12-25-2012, 07:07 PM

Postal insurance is almost useless for items becoming damaged. You would know if the lights became damaged during shipping, based on the quality of the packing job provided. USPS will only refund for damage if the packing job was more than sufficient, and proof of this is needed with photos during the claim process.

If you paid with a credit card you need to dispute the charge, they will just have you ship back the lights and issue a full refund, you pay return shipping. Make sure to get a tracking number.

Always pay for online purchases with credit cards, the rewards programs (cash back, miles, etc), and added security for situations like these are not beatable. Go the Paypal route if possible first, they only give a 45 day dispute window. If it is a dead end, hope you paid with a credit card, just call the number on the back and they will take care of you.

Been selling on eBay for a living for over a decade.

Game · 12-25-2012, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by electro-house

Postal insurance is almost useless for items becoming damaged. You would know if the lights became damaged during shipping, based on the quality of the packing job provided. USPS will only refund for damage if the packing job was more than sufficient, and proof of this is needed with photos during the claim process.

If you paid with a credit card you need to dispute the charge, they will just have you ship back the lights and issue a full refund, you pay return shipping. Make sure to get a tracking number.

Always pay for online purchases with credit cards, the rewards programs (cash back, miles, etc), and added security for situations like these are not beatable. Go the Paypal route if possible first, they only give a 45 day dispute window. If it is a dead end, hope you paid with a credit card, just call the number on the back and they will take care of you.

Been selling on eBay for a living for over a decade.

I actually believe I paid through a debit card connected to my Paypal unfortunately.

cmyk · 12-25-2012, 09:33 PM

Depending on who you bank with some banks offer various levels of buyer protection on debit card transactions. I have successfully disputed charges made via debit card purchase through both my old Bank Of America account and my current account with Chase. Call your bank up and see if they can help.

But I agree, I always make any online purchases over $100 or so via credit card for this reason (hindsight is 20/20 I know).

ETA: I would still file a dispute with PayPal. PayPal will pull the funds from the seller immediatelty while they investigate. If they side in your favor you will absolutely get your money back, and PayPal will go after the seller for the funds if he doesn't have enough in his PayPal balance to cover it. Doesn't matter if he no longer has the account or what bank account (if any) is tied to the account.

fresh_LA · 12-25-2012, 09:50 PM

sucks... especially during the holidays.

karma will eventually catch up to this Mike, Donald, or whoever this guy is.

phillye30fanboy · 12-25-2012, 10:03 PM

you just said that the cracks were even in the picture that he sent you before shipment. your not going to get your money back because you didn't notice it, and didn't call him out on it...sorry

KFJ512a · 12-25-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Manny_World

People like that makes me sick. Hopefully USPS give you something back.

Other thought: Let's send a search party to the return address!

+1

Game · 12-25-2012, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cmyk

Depending on who you bank with some banks offer various levels of buyer protection on debit card transactions. I have successfully disputed charges made via debit card purchase through both my old Bank Of America account and my current account with Chase. Call your bank up and see if they can help.

But I agree, I always make any online purchases over $100 or so via credit card for this reason (hindsight is 20/20 I know).

ETA: I would still file a dispute with PayPal. PayPal will pull the funds from the seller immediatelty while they investigate. If they side in your favor you will absolutely get your money back, and PayPal will go after the seller for the funds if he doesn't have enough in his PayPal balance to cover it. Doesn't matter if he no longer has the account or what bank account (if any) is tied to the account.

Thanks for the info.

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Originally Posted by phillye30fanboy

you just said that the cracks were even in the picture that he sent you before shipment. your not going to get your money back because you didn't notice it, and didn't call him out on it...sorry

Incorrect, you can see the crack in the original picture I got.

mashimarho · 12-25-2012, 11:06 PM

I'd still work out the taillights. They're usable.

Game · 12-25-2012, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mashimarho

I'd still work out the taillights. They're usable.

They're in hideous condition and from what I've heard the are LEDs out.

bmwforme · 12-25-2012, 11:50 PM

i sell things on eBay maybe once a month. I am a good seller and have never had an issue yet Paypal holds my funds for up to days and days until the item is delivered because I am a "liability," incase there is an issue, they don't want me running away with the funds, ok.

OP, goodluck man, sucks there are people out there like this but at the end of the day, he is classless and a joke, making a quick buck here and there ripping hard working people off, nice way to live I guess.

Inspired · 12-26-2012, 12:17 AM

What if the seller was telling the truth and the lights were damaged during shipping? I shipped thousands of things and sometimes things do get damaged during shipping.

Game · 12-26-2012, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspired

What if the seller was telling the truth and the lights were damaged during shipping? I shipped thousands of things and sometimes things do get damaged during shipping.

I have members who he's come to with the lights damaged.

JohnSprm69 · 12-26-2012, 07:21 AM

hey OP??? could this be your guy still roaming around here? with a not so different name, very little post count and very recent join date?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=784606

Game · 12-26-2012, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoosh69

hey OP??? could this be your guy still roaming around here? with a not so different name, very little post count and very recent join date?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=784606

Could be, I have no idea.

I have all of his actual info now though.

gunsekun · 12-26-2012, 09:18 AM

i would ship back the tails with some dead rats...

12-25-2012, 12:48 PM	#24
gds52 Colonel 886 Rep 2,720 Posts Drives: BMW Z4M Coupe, BMW 328i E93 Co Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Sad to know about your bad experience. I hope you recover some money. This is the reason I never buy anything used online, no matter how much money I will save or how good the seller is. I never buy anything online from a private seller.
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12-25-2012, 01:34 PM	#25
korr Captain 36 Rep 737 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 335i M-Sport Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bergen / Jersey iTrader: (4) Garage List 2011 335i Sedan M-s ... [10.00]	ce na niang ah cuo bi gang luan __________________ 2011 E90 335i M-Sport BSM Last edited by korr; 12-25-2012 at 09:35 PM..
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12-25-2012, 01:59 PM	#26
onebadmofo Colonel 346 Rep 2,396 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Central NJ iTrader: (14)	I sent you a PM, might have more info.
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12-25-2012, 06:43 PM	#29
N55 ⒸⒺⓇⓉⓘⒻⒾⒺⒹ✬ⓃⒾⓃⒿⒶ 137 Rep 1,475 Posts Drives: 🚀 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Pittsburgh iTrader: (3) Garage List 2015 BMW M4 [0.00] 2012 BMW 335IS (SOLD) [6.84] 2011 BMW 335XI (SOLD) [4.66] 2008 BMW 335xi (SOLD) [10.00]	I learned this lesson a few years back. Now, I never buy anything unless it has crystal clear pictures. Now in days, it is really not that hard to get a nice picture (Heck, even from an iPhone). __________________ 2008 335xi E90 - Sold - > 2011 335xi E90 - Sold - > 2012 335IS E92 Crimson Red - SOLD > 2015 M4 Yas Marina Blue SOLD> 2019 McLaren 570s SOLD 2015 Lamborghini Huracan
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12-25-2012, 07:07 PM	#30
electro-house Lieutenant 24 Rep 533 Posts Drives: 2008 335i coupe Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Phoenix iTrader: (0)	Postal insurance is almost useless for items becoming damaged. You would know if the lights became damaged during shipping, based on the quality of the packing job provided. USPS will only refund for damage if the packing job was more than sufficient, and proof of this is needed with photos during the claim process. If you paid with a credit card you need to dispute the charge, they will just have you ship back the lights and issue a full refund, you pay return shipping. Make sure to get a tracking number. Always pay for online purchases with credit cards, the rewards programs (cash back, miles, etc), and added security for situations like these are not beatable. Go the Paypal route if possible first, they only give a 45 day dispute window. If it is a dead end, hope you paid with a credit card, just call the number on the back and they will take care of you. Been selling on eBay for a living for over a decade.
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12-25-2012, 09:33 PM	#32
cmyk resident girl. 59 Rep 1,017 Posts Drives: 2008 335i + 2014 X5 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: DFW, Texas iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i [8.76]	Depending on who you bank with some banks offer various levels of buyer protection on debit card transactions. I have successfully disputed charges made via debit card purchase through both my old Bank Of America account and my current account with Chase. Call your bank up and see if they can help. But I agree, I always make any online purchases over $100 or so via credit card for this reason (hindsight is 20/20 I know). ETA: I would still file a dispute with PayPal. PayPal will pull the funds from the seller immediatelty while they investigate. If they side in your favor you will absolutely get your money back, and PayPal will go after the seller for the funds if he doesn't have enough in his PayPal balance to cover it. Doesn't matter if he no longer has the account or what bank account (if any) is tied to the account. __________________ 2008 E90 335i // Black Everything // photos COBB tuned / QTP e-cutouts / Helix FMIC / cp-e DCI / AWE BOVs / Catless / FBO + F15 X5 xDrive35i
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12-25-2012, 09:50 PM	#33
fresh_LA First Lieutenant 14 Rep 360 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 SG 6MT Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (4)	sucks... especially during the holidays. karma will eventually catch up to this Mike, Donald, or whoever this guy is.
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12-25-2012, 10:03 PM	#34
phillye30fanboy Second Lieutenant 26 Rep 246 Posts Drives: 2015 Mustang EB PP, 86 Notch Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: philadelphia iTrader: (0)	you just said that the cracks were even in the picture that he sent you before shipment. your not going to get your money back because you didn't notice it, and didn't call him out on it...sorry __________________ I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious.
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12-25-2012, 11:06 PM	#37
mashimarho BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 2105 Rep 13,876 Posts Drives: E92 M3 & F80 M3 & G82 M4 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lynnwood, WA iTrader: (45) Garage List 2021 BMW G82 M4 [0.00] 2011 BMW E92 M3 [0.00] 2015 BMW F80 M3 [0.00] 2012 BMW 335i xDrive [9.78]	I'd still work out the taillights. They're usable. __________________ Mashimarho.com /// Instagram /// Facebook /// Youtube /// sales@mashimarho.com /// (425) 582-7939
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12-25-2012, 11:50 PM	#39
bmwforme Lieutenant 257 Rep 557 Posts Drives: 2023 X3 M40i Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	i sell things on eBay maybe once a month. I am a good seller and have never had an issue yet Paypal holds my funds for up to days and days until the item is delivered because I am a "liability," incase there is an issue, they don't want me running away with the funds, ok. OP, goodluck man, sucks there are people out there like this but at the end of the day, he is classless and a joke, making a quick buck here and there ripping hard working people off, nice way to live I guess. __________________ NYC Main: 2023 X3 M40i Brooklyn Grey Secondary: 2020 X1 xDrive28i M Sport Alpine White
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12-26-2012, 12:17 AM	#40
Inspired Colonel 148 Rep 2,368 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California iTrader: (2)	What if the seller was telling the truth and the lights were damaged during shipping? I shipped thousands of things and sometimes things do get damaged during shipping.
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12-26-2012, 07:21 AM	#42
JohnSprm69 Colonel 162 Rep 2,007 Posts Drives: AW e92 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (4)	hey OP??? could this be your guy still roaming around here? with a not so different name, very little post count and very recent join date? http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=784606
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12-26-2012, 09:18 AM	#44
gunsekun Banned 20 Rep 714 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: your mom's iTrader: (0)	i would ship back the tails with some dead rats...
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