[dmurray14]

Originally Posted by Fluffy bastard

So, we don't need to crack CIC anymore. Anything that you need to activate Navi and voice-control - pay some money for us and give me a car for about less than 1 hour

Great, thanks for sharing

Gotta love the contribution. Always about money.

[Booster4075]

Originally Posted by Fluffy bastard

So, we don't need to crack CIC anymore. Anything that you need to activate Navi and voice-control - pay some money for us and give me a car for about less than 1 hour

Bummer...it will take me several days (okay..a couple of weeks) to get my car to Russia for an hour.

Care to share for anyone on this side of the planet?

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Originally Posted by Fluffy bastard

So, we don't need to crack CIC anymore. Anything that you need to activate Navi and voice-control - pay some money for us and give me a car for about less than 1 hour

What is the reason to send this and other similar comments ??
Does it make you feel better ??

I think you have already told us many times you have a solution and you are not willing to contribute anything you know about it to other forum members, so what's the point ?

Most people here tolerate your worthless posts only because they hope that some day they will be lucky to get something from you.
I don't think this happen as long as you make money on this and this is fine if you do it for living but why the hell you act as a know-it-all, who can only say "I know but I won't tell you".

Have you no sense of decency ?

[Fluffy bastard]

Originally Posted by Booster4075

Bummer...it will take me several days (okay..a couple of weeks) to get my car to Russia for an hour.

Care to share for anyone on this side of the planet?

It's not so cheap for you. At least Technic think so

Originally Posted by Patrys

What is the reason to send this and other similar comments ??
Does it make you feel better ??

I think you have already told us many times you have a solution and you are not willing to contribute anything you know about it to other forum members, so what's the point ?

Most people here tolerate your worthless posts only because they hope that some day they will be lucky to get something from you.
I don't think this happen as long as you make money on this and this is fine if you do it for living but why the hell you act as a know-it-all, who can only say "I know but I won't tell you".

Have you no sense of decency ?

Patrick, personally, can you believe that I gloat. For the rest, I'll explain that at the time of my registration here, the decision was quite wrong to speak of its commercial side. Now, everything looks a little different
Again you: I understand your attempt to insult me. As the owner of unnecessary glands like the CIC without navigation, you really want to get it. And it is for you in this thread I had previously been proposed solution. Namely: FSC-order code to navigate through the service-manager in the representative office of your country. Next, import the package through the ISTA. However, I fear, a list of replacements of units that will be displayed in the list of activities will be for you a great mind you. Your car was produced, if not mistaken, in 2007? Be ready to buy a new ULF. Most likely, you will have to change the FRM, in order to control the light through the CIC to work correctly. If you have a TV, it will work normally, but there might be problems with color scanning, if the CIC is programmed version 34 software. That is enough for you, or do I need to "chew" something else?

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Originally Posted by Fluffy bastard

Patrick, personally, can you believe that I gloat. For the rest, I'll explain that at the time of my registration here, the decision was quite wrong to speak of its commercial side. Now, everything looks a little different
Again you: I understand your attempt to insult me. As the owner of unnecessary glands like the CIC without navigation, you really want to get it. And it is for you in this thread I had previously been proposed solution. Namely: FSC-order code to navigate through the service-manager in the representative office of your country. Next, import the package through the ISTA. However, I fear, a list of replacements of units that will be displayed in the list of activities will be for you a great mind you. Your car was produced, if not mistaken, in 2007? Be ready to buy a new ULF. Most likely, you will have to change the FRM, in order to control the light through the CIC to work correctly. If you have a TV, it will work normally, but there might be problems with color scanning, if the CIC is programmed version 34 software. That is enough for you, or do I need to "chew" something else?

Oleg I really do not want to insult you.
All I expect from myself and other forum members is that if you can't / don't want to help just do not make comments you have made.
That's all.

Fact, I am desperate to have the navigation activated.
Let's assume I have the FSC code ready and I am only missing a way to import it to my CIC.
You are right that my car is 2007 so ISTA/P complains about a lot of ECUs that are too old.
We both know that ZB numbers can be changed in at least couple of ECUs, but personally I can't change the ZB number in DSC as an example.

From what you are saying there is no way to activate the Navigation in cars produced in 2007 or before ?
Actually all cars produced before 09/2008 will have similar issues, because ISTA/P will be expecting different ZB numbers.
So what's the solution ?

What about E-sys to import the code then ?

Let's "chew" this subject some more...

[Fluffy bastard]

Originally Posted by Patrys

Oleg I really do not want to insult you.
All I expect from myself and other forum members is that if you can't / don't want to help just do not make comments you have made.
That's all.

Fact, I am desperate to have the navigation activated.
Let's assume I have the FSC code ready and I am only missing a way to import it to my CIC.
You are right that my car is 2007 so ISTA/P complains about a lot of ECUs that are too old.
We both know that ZB numbers can be changed in at least couple of ECUs, but personally I can't change the ZB number in DSC as an example.

From what you are saying there is no way to activate the Navigation in cars produced in 2007 or before ?
Actually all cars produced before 09/2008 will have similar issues, because ISTA/P will be expecting different ZB numbers.
So what's the solution ?

What about E-sys to import the code then ?

Let's "chew" this subject some more...

Changing of ZB-numbers can't help you, coz the ISTA check hw id of all ECU's. It's possible to activate navi, you need ediabas, remote and something else.
E-sys... It's for F-series in most

[dmurray14]

Originally Posted by Fluffy bastard

It's not so cheap for you. At least Technic think so


Patrick, personally, can you believe that I gloat. For the rest, I'll explain that at the time of my registration here, the decision was quite wrong to speak of its commercial side. Now, everything looks a little different
Again you: I understand your attempt to insult me. As the owner of unnecessary glands like the CIC without navigation, you really want to get it. And it is for you in this thread I had previously been proposed solution. Namely: FSC-order code to navigate through the service-manager in the representative office of your country. Next, import the package through the ISTA. However, I fear, a list of replacements of units that will be displayed in the list of activities will be for you a great mind you. Your car was produced, if not mistaken, in 2007? Be ready to buy a new ULF. Most likely, you will have to change the FRM, in order to control the light through the CIC to work correctly. If you have a TV, it will work normally, but there might be problems with color scanning, if the CIC is programmed version 34 software. That is enough for you, or do I need to "chew" something else?

First, thank you for actually contributing. That's all anyone is asking.

I suspect this is going through Google translate (which is fine) but let me try and explain what I think you're saying: Order the FSC code through the dealer (we can't), use ISTA/P to load it (we can), ISTA will complain about the old modules, which I agree with. Namely, in my car I have the FRM and not the NFRM, which would be a programming issue, also I have a CDMA TCU and old ULF. All of these would be an issue. If you change the build date to a CIC date, ISTA/P will see the CIC, but will complain about all the old modules' part numbers being incorrect, and will not complete the programming plan. If you leave the build date correct, ISTA/P will look for a CCC not a CIC. This all makes sense.

Could we not load the FSC with WinKFP? I assume it needs to be programmed, but is ISTA/P the only thing that could do it?

Originally Posted by Fluffy bastard

Changing of ZB-numbers can't help you, coz the ISTA check hw id of all ECU's. It's possible to activate navi, you need ediabas, remote and something else.
E-sys... It's for F-series in most

What is the "something else?" Do you know?

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

For cars produced before 09/2008 ISTA/P is a dead end.

The trick is to import the code in a different way, which is not winkfp for sure.

[Technic]

To be perfectly blunt, there's no new contribution here.

What I do get from Fluffy's post is that this FSC loading seems to be done as an override of some sort. And that's only done by some BMW Factory software tool, as no dealer will be able to accomplish this in any non-factory installed CIC with their tools at hand.

[dmurray14]

Originally Posted by Patrys

For cars produced before 09/2008 ISTA/P is a dead end.

The trick is to import the code in a different way, which is not winkfp for sure.

Any idea what the "different way" is? I assume that's what we're trying to figure out. I suggested WinKFP only because that's the only other tool I'm aware of that can selectively program (not code) individual modules.

What fun...

[dmurray14]

Originally Posted by Technic

To be perfectly blunt, there's no new contribution here.

What I do get from Fluffy's post is that this FSC loading seems to be done as an override of some sort. And that's only done by some BMW Factory software tool, as no dealer will be able to accomplish this in any non-factory installed CIC with their tools at hand.

Correct. I'm confident that with the FSC, it will be possible to figure out how to load it. Getting the FSC in the first place is the tough part.

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Originally Posted by dmurray14

Any idea what the "different way" is? I assume that's what we're trying to figure out. I suggested WinKFP only because that's the only other tool I'm aware of that can selectively program (not code) individual modules.

What fun...

Some kind of software that can import the FSC code into a CIC.
Fluffy has it but won't help us.
It seems to be the last piece of the puzzle.

[Technic]

Originally Posted by dmurray14

Correct. I'm confident that with the FSC, it will be possible to figure out how to load it. Getting the FSC in the first place is the tough part.

Somehow getting the FSC in the USA is the "cannot" part. In Europe somehow (again) you just pay for them regardless if you car has a factory-installed CIC or not.

Which raises the question... if you can just pay for the codes in Europe then there should be a way to at least pay as well to load the codes without messing with ISTA/P and the list of incompatible/error modules that will be shown once that CIC is detected in a non-factory-installed vehicle.

And that way should be at the dealer, as it is BMW the one supplying the FSC codes and not some private shop...

[longtran]

damn, i am guessing this is going no where.

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by longtran

damn, i am guessing this is going no where.

Long,

Our time has been dominated by preparations for Mfest and bimmerfest as well as day to day operations.

Please make arrangements with me for a scan with your equipment installed so I can look into this a bit further.

[longtran]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Long,

Our time has been dominated by preparations for Mfest and bimmerfest as well as day to day operations.

Please make arrangements with me for a scan with your equipment installed so I can look into this a bit further.

i will be there tomorrow if you want.

[dmurray14]

Does anyone have an extra CIC / HD screen that they are selling?

[srcstc]

There's a CIC on ebay.

[smercki]

Hello boys
you have code (part-number) cable connect usb to cic?

Waiting for code FSC available I have a small tips: pressed the push-button on/off of the cic for 10 sec. the system reset and the navigator are resumed to work, but only, till the next extinction of the car. For the moment better than nothing

If not work, try 2x or 3x with ignition on pos.1

[Technic]

Originally Posted by smercki

Hello boys
you have code (part-number) cable connect usb to cic?

Waiting for code FSC available I have a small tips: Holding at the same time pressed the push-button of the cic and idrive for 30 sec. the system reset and the navigator are resumed to work, but only, till the next extinction of the car. For the moment better than nothing

Thanks... I tried that and the system just resets, no Navigation is enabled.

Is this an used CIC or new?

[smercki]

Originally Posted by Technic

Thanks... I tried that and the system just resets, no Navigation is enabled.

Is this an used CIC or new?

used

[Technic]

Originally Posted by smercki

used

That's the reason it works with your trick and not in my new unit...