SIMONIZ: good, bad, ugly? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

silverado · 05-26-2005, 12:25 PM

Hi folks,

My baby (330i) arrived at the dealer last night and I have (perhapse misguidedly) accepted their SIMONIZ pitch and asked them to apply it. This is supposed to be a Teflone coating of the paint and comes with a 5 year guarantee.

What do people know about it? First and formost, is it harmful in any way? Does it reduce the effectiveness of other products like Zaino? Second, does it work? Does it really offer protection? Does it contribute to shine, etc?

Any information would be greatly appreciated as I am getting worried about this all of a sudden!

Armen52 · 05-26-2005, 02:07 PM

I hear its rubbish but I am no expert.

fusionnv · 05-28-2005, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by silverado

Hi folks,

My baby (330i) arrived at the dealer last night and I have (perhapse misguidedly) accepted their SIMONIZ pitch and asked them to apply it. This is supposed to be a Teflone coating of the paint and comes with a 5 year guarantee.

What do people know about it? First and formost, is it harmful in any way? Does it reduce the effectiveness of other products like Zaino? Second, does it work? Does it really offer protection? Does it contribute to shine, etc?

Any information would be greatly appreciated as I am getting worried about this all of a sudden!

I really really really really hope that you did not pay a lot for it. I think you are talking about simoniz system 5 with Teflon. It cost the dealership less than 25 bucks for the kit and it maybe does a couple of cars. If you look on ebay and do a search for the two bottles they run for about 20-30 bucks plus shipping. It is a sealant like wax. When you do the Zanio process (It strips most of the stuff off your paint) it will take off the Simoniz layer. (Sealants like Zanio also has problems bonding to surfaces of other sealants but regular waxes do not) You can layer Zanio and then Carnauba wax but not the other way around.

On a side note, Dupont has made a point in the past about Teflon in car waxes. (they make their own products for car with teflon) It doesn't really do anything because it requires a high level of heat to have teflon bond to surfaces. Usually companies put it in products to make it easier to apply. Many car detailing forums frown upon teflon and it ability to actually do much or even anything at all.

silverado · 05-28-2005, 03:36 AM

Fusionnv,

Thanks for the info... if only it came one day earlier I could have pulled the plug on this

The dealer wanted $400 for this treatment and I got him down to $250 thinking I did good... now it looks like I was a perfect prey

Oh well, I guess that compensates for being lucky enough to get the car within a week while people are waiting months for theirs. I went shopping for it last Saturday and I should be picking it up today.

BMW 2006 · 07-02-2005, 12:58 AM

I hear it's rubbish too! Ask them what happens to the paint when the product is over the 5 yrs? That is if you plan on keeping the car longer than
the length of the product!

tsoc88 · 07-02-2005, 07:29 AM

Can I guess that Herb Chambers was your dealer?

silverado · 07-02-2005, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tsoc88

Can I guess that Herb Chambers was your dealer?

Yes it was?

What gave it away? Was it being in Boston or the Simoniz?

bmw330ipty · 07-12-2005, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by silverado

Yes it was?

What gave it away? Was it being in Boston or the Simoniz?

probably cuz u got ripped off?

silverado · 07-12-2005, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bmw330ipty

probably cuz u got ripped off?

I'm sure it's not the only dealer that pushes this stuff. And I'm not the first or the last customer to pay for it either. I let my guard down on this one, but I ended up with a good deal overall. I got the exact car I wanted in 1 week. Not too shabby.

NaTuReB0Y · 07-12-2005, 05:22 PM

You probably paid for LOJACK, GAP INSURANCE, and RUST PROTECTION TOO, right? ahahahaha!

ron parrfer · 12-24-2007, 06:03 PM

I have researched and done comparisons on five other paint sealant products. SS5 is the only one that contains teflon and has exclusive license rights to that process. it is the only one that has a 5 yr warranty on the outside as well as the inside. I paid $595 for mine and it was well worth it. Check and see how much it cost to replace a seat cover of your vehicle. look on the EPA web-site and the NADA web site and see what they say about the paint on your car and resale value if you maintain your shine. The factory does not warranty your paint even on your new car, look at the warranty book and service manuel. If you got it at $200 something you got a bargain. You may be able to purchase bootleg stolen product from authorized dealers, but you do not get the 5 year warranty with it, you do the math. Rental car for 5 days $50 day. Will repaint or replace.

FMINUS · 12-25-2007, 12:39 PM

completely worthless

ScheerSpeed · 12-25-2007, 01:42 PM

a good detailing job does much better than this!!!

05-26-2005, 12:25 PM	#1
silverado Captain Drives: E90 330i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 589 iTrader: (0)	SIMONIZ: good, bad, ugly? Hi folks, My baby (330i) arrived at the dealer last night and I have (perhapse misguidedly) accepted their SIMONIZ pitch and asked them to apply it. This is supposed to be a Teflone coating of the paint and comes with a 5 year guarantee. What do people know about it? First and formost, is it harmful in any way? Does it reduce the effectiveness of other products like Zaino? Second, does it work? Does it really offer protection? Does it contribute to shine, etc? Any information would be greatly appreciated as I am getting worried about this all of a sudden!

05-26-2005, 02:07 PM	#2
Armen52 Captain Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 669 iTrader: (0) View Armen52's Garage	I hear its rubbish but I am no expert. __________________ E90 330i delivered 6/29/2005, ZSP/ZPP/ZCW/Step, Arctic/Gray/Walnut

07-02-2005, 07:29 AM	#6
tsoc88 New Member Drives: 2008 328ic, 2004 Z4 3.0i Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 29 iTrader: (0)	Simoniz Can I guess that Herb Chambers was your dealer?

07-12-2005, 05:22 PM	#10
NaTuReB0Y Powered By 36DD Drives: 2006 E90 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jungle Posts: 6,509 iTrader: (9)	You probably paid for LOJACK, GAP INSURANCE, and RUST PROTECTION TOO, right? ahahahaha! __________________ 2006 330i E90: Jet Black Automatic Schestamatic Steptronic Six Speed Transmission

12-24-2007, 06:03 PM	#11
ron parrfer New Member Drives: 2007 Chverolet Tahoe Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: killeen, Texas Posts: 1 iTrader: (0)	Simoniz System 5 I have researched and done comparisons on five other paint sealant products. SS5 is the only one that contains teflon and has exclusive license rights to that process. it is the only one that has a 5 yr warranty on the outside as well as the inside. I paid $595 for mine and it was well worth it. Check and see how much it cost to replace a seat cover of your vehicle. look on the EPA web-site and the NADA web site and see what they say about the paint on your car and resale value if you maintain your shine. The factory does not warranty your paint even on your new car, look at the warranty book and service manuel. If you got it at $200 something you got a bargain. You may be able to purchase bootleg stolen product from authorized dealers, but you do not get the 5 year warranty with it, you do the math. Rental car for 5 days $50 day. Will repaint or replace.

05-28-2005, 03:36 AM	#4
silverado Captain Drives: E90 330i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 589 iTrader: (0)	Fusionnv, Thanks for the info... if only it came one day earlier I could have pulled the plug on this The dealer wanted $400 for this treatment and I got him down to $250 thinking I did good... now it looks like I was a perfect prey Oh well, I guess that compensates for being lucky enough to get the car within a week while people are waiting months for theirs. I went shopping for it last Saturday and I should be picking it up today.

07-02-2005, 12:58 AM	#5
BMW 2006 Second Lieutenant Drives: 330I - '06 - 6 Spd Join Date: May 2005 Location: California - USA Posts: 146 iTrader: (0)	I hear it's rubbish too! Ask them what happens to the paint when the product is over the 5 yrs? That is if you plan on keeping the car longer than the length of the product!

12-25-2007, 12:39 PM	#12
FMINUS Detailing Fanatic! Drives: E90 M5 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chino Hills CA Posts: 722 iTrader: (2)	completely worthless __________________ 08 E60 M5 02 BMW M3 05 NSX Imola Orange

12-25-2007, 01:42 PM	#13
ScheerSpeed Detailing Addict Drives: Jerez E90 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 4,885 iTrader: (12)	a good detailing job does much better than this!!! __________________ AA Exhaust, custom catless midpipes, AA ECU, AA Filter, AA Pulleys, AA SSK, Clutch stop, 8K HID Angel Eyes, JL Motoring front lip, OEM Mtech spoiler, Blacklines, Painted reflectors, 35%/70%(front) 3M Ceramic tint. H&R Sport, ISSForged FM-10, and too many layers of Swissvax Mystery.