Good all weather tires for my car

lordbmw · 10-17-2016, 08:46 PM

I currently have Bridgestone Potenza run flats on my car ('10 335xi).

The rears are 225/35 r18 90w.
The fronts are 225/40 r18 88w

I bought the car used about a month ago.

Are these the stock tires for my car?

And are these good all weather tires?

I'm concerned about snow later.

TIA

lordbmw · 10-17-2016, 09:23 PM

Well, these are the search results:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...SortCode=54100

The first one that comes up is this :
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....port%20Package

Looks OK to me. Probably better than what I have on now.

floydarogers · 10-17-2016, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordbmw

I currently have Bridgestone Potenza run flats on my car ('10 335xi).

The rears are 225/35 r18 90w.
The fronts are 225/40 r18 88w

I bought the car used about a month ago.

Are these the stock tires for my car?

And are these good all weather tires?

I'm concerned about snow later.

As you have discovered, the correct rear size is 255/35R18. That size is correct and has almost the same diameter/circumference as the front.

The Potenza RE050a is a performance summer tire, completely bad in temperatures lower than about 45F. Most people running all-seasons are using either the Michelin Pilot Sport AS/3 or the Continental DWS. IMHO, both are probably better than the Goodrich.

Notice that you have not chosen a RFT (nor are the two I listed), which presents a different set of problems. In RFT, the Bridgestone Potenza RE970a and Driveguard are the preferred tires.

lordbmw · 10-18-2016, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floydarogers

Notice that you have not chosen a RFT

I don't need RFT.

I have AAA so if I have a problem, I just call them.

Make sense?

david in germany · 10-18-2016, 12:37 AM

Skip all season tires if your weather gets bad.

VTECaddict · 10-18-2016, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordbmw

I currently have Bridgestone Potenza run flats on my car ('10 335xi).

The rears are 225/35 r18 90w.
The fronts are 225/40 r18 88w

I bought the car used about a month ago.

Are these the stock tires for my car?

And are these good all weather tires?

I'm concerned about snow later.

TIA

Is that rear size a typo? It should be 255/35/18. If you really have 225/35/18 on there, get them off the car ASAP because you can be damaging the xDrive system.

I think the most popular and highly regarded all seasons on here are the Continental DWS 06.

lordbmw · 10-18-2016, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VTECaddict

Is that rear size a typo? It should be 255/35/18. If you really have 225/35/18 on there, get them off the car ASAP because you can be damaging the xDrive system.

I think the most popular and highly regarded all seasons on here are the Continental DWS 06.

That was a typo

lordbmw · 10-18-2016, 08:31 AM

What about these Pirrellis?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....port%20Package

floydarogers · 10-18-2016, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordbmw

I don't need RFT.

I have AAA so if I have a problem, I just call them.

Make sense?

Just calling your attention to that detail. I have AAA and go-flat winter tires, too.

floydarogers · 10-18-2016, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordbmw

What about these Pirrellis?

Perfectly good, even excellent tires. IMHO, Pirellis are over-priced and over-hyped, but they make good tires; have some Cinturato P7 RFT's on my wife's 328xd, very nice in the rain and dry haven't driven them much in snow. Not a great lifetime but they'll probably make it to 35K unless we replace them before winter for more tread depth.

AtlasM · 10-24-2016, 09:05 AM

Just to be slightly nitpicky, all-weather and all-season tires are two different things. All-weather tires have the severe snow duty rating "mountain snowflake" symbol and are basically like winter tires that can be driven in warmer temperatures, unlike winter tires which if you drive them in warmer weather will mess up the rubber compound.

All-season tires are the usual "regular" tires that have varying degrees of snow capability depending on the model, and they usually have the M+S symbol on them, but they do not have the severe snow duty rating.

The difference is that any tire where the manufacturer claims the tread is designed for help with mud & snow can carry the M+S symbol, but there's no testing to back up that claim. To have the mountain snowflake symbol, the tires are actually tested in winter conditions.

lordbmw · 10-24-2016, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlasM

Just to be slightly nitpicky, all-weather and all-season tires are two different things. All-weather tires have the severe snow duty rating "mountain snowflake" symbol and are basically like winter tires that can be driven in warmer temperatures, unlike winter tires which if you drive them in warmer weather will mess up the rubber compound.

All-season tires are the usual "regular" tires that have varying degrees of snow capability depending on the model, and they usually have the M+S symbol on them, but they do not have the severe snow duty rating.

The difference is that any tire where the manufacturer claims the tread is designed for help with mud & snow can carry the M+S symbol, but there's no testing to back up that claim. To have the mountain snowflake symbol, the tires are actually tested in winter conditions.

Oh ok, did not know that. Learn something new every day

Hmm, so which of the 3 types should I get then?

AtlasM · 10-24-2016, 03:42 PM

Assuming you're looking to have one set of tires on the car year-round, all-weather tires probably aren't the best choice because they are decidedly un-sporty handling.

The general tire category you should look at is Ultra-High Performance All-Season. These will generally give you sporty handling, and while theoretically all of them are supposed to work in winter, there's a lot of variability in how well they actually work in winter. The tires in this category that appear to be worth considering, based on having good winter ratings in the Tire Rack test results, with most expensive at the top of the list:

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ - sportiest dry/wet handling of the bunch, a bit stiff riding
Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 - above average in winter for this group, less sporty though
BFGoodrich g-Force COMP-2 A/S - overall very close to Michelin A/S 3+ but cheaper, the 255/35-18 rears have been back ordered for a while
General G-MAX AS-03 - sportiness somewhere in between Continental & BFG but cheaper
Sumitomo HTR A/S P02 - really cheap, decent in most areas but not quite as sporty

Note that this is not based on my personal experience with any of these tires, just going off the Tire Rack tests.

I would avoid the older version of the Michelin, which is the Pilot Sport A/S 3 without the + in the name.

lordbmw · 10-24-2016, 07:00 PM

Yea, I think all-season is probably my best bet.

I don't really like the idea of swapping my tires for winter tires then storing the summer tires then swapping them again later.

I also don't like that far north. It does snow where I live but not nearly as much as other places. If it snows a lot, I just won't drive.

AtlasM · 10-25-2016, 10:43 AM

In that case I'd probably look at the Michelin A/S 3+ if you don't care about price, or the General AS-03 for a more affordable option. The BFG would be a good choice as well if you can find somewhere that has the rears in stock. The Pirellis you linked to are also limited stock/backordered and Tire Rack hasn't done winter testing on them yet so it's hard to say for sure if they'll do the trick.

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lordbmw Captain 270 Rep 790 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW 335xi Coupe (AT) Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (0)	Good all weather tires for my car I currently have Bridgestone Potenza run flats on my car ('10 335xi). The rears are 225/35 r18 90w. The fronts are 225/40 r18 88w I bought the car used about a month ago. Are these the stock tires for my car? And are these good all weather tires? I'm concerned about snow later. TIA
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lordbmw Captain 270 Rep 790 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW 335xi Coupe (AT) Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (0)	Well, these are the search results: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...SortCode=54100 The first one that comes up is this : http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....port%20Package Looks OK to me. Probably better than what I have on now.
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lordbmw Captain 270 Rep 790 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW 335xi Coupe (AT) Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (0)	What about these Pirrellis? http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....port%20Package Last edited by lordbmw; 10-18-2016 at 01:05 PM..
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AtlasM Captain 285 Rep 615 Posts Drives: '11 E92 335xi 6MT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Rockville, MD iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 335i xDrive [8.00]	Just to be slightly nitpicky, all-weather and all-season tires are two different things. All-weather tires have the severe snow duty rating "mountain snowflake" symbol and are basically like winter tires that can be driven in warmer temperatures, unlike winter tires which if you drive them in warmer weather will mess up the rubber compound. All-season tires are the usual "regular" tires that have varying degrees of snow capability depending on the model, and they usually have the M+S symbol on them, but they do not have the severe snow duty rating. The difference is that any tire where the manufacturer claims the tread is designed for help with mud & snow can carry the M+S symbol, but there's no testing to back up that claim. To have the mountain snowflake symbol, the tires are actually tested in winter conditions.
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AtlasM Captain 285 Rep 615 Posts Drives: '11 E92 335xi 6MT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Rockville, MD iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 335i xDrive [8.00]	Assuming you're looking to have one set of tires on the car year-round, all-weather tires probably aren't the best choice because they are decidedly un-sporty handling. The general tire category you should look at is Ultra-High Performance All-Season. These will generally give you sporty handling, and while theoretically all of them are supposed to work in winter, there's a lot of variability in how well they actually work in winter. The tires in this category that appear to be worth considering, based on having good winter ratings in the Tire Rack test results, with most expensive at the top of the list: Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ - sportiest dry/wet handling of the bunch, a bit stiff riding Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 - above average in winter for this group, less sporty though BFGoodrich g-Force COMP-2 A/S - overall very close to Michelin A/S 3+ but cheaper, the 255/35-18 rears have been back ordered for a while General G-MAX AS-03 - sportiness somewhere in between Continental & BFG but cheaper Sumitomo HTR A/S P02 - really cheap, decent in most areas but not quite as sporty Note that this is not based on my personal experience with any of these tires, just going off the Tire Rack tests. I would avoid the older version of the Michelin, which is the Pilot Sport A/S 3 without the + in the name.
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lordbmw Captain 270 Rep 790 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW 335xi Coupe (AT) Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (0)	Yea, I think all-season is probably my best bet. I don't really like the idea of swapping my tires for winter tires then storing the summer tires then swapping them again later. I also don't like that far north. It does snow where I live but not nearly as much as other places. If it snows a lot, I just won't drive.
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AtlasM Captain 285 Rep 615 Posts Drives: '11 E92 335xi 6MT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Rockville, MD iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 335i xDrive [8.00]	In that case I'd probably look at the Michelin A/S 3+ if you don't care about price, or the General AS-03 for a more affordable option. The BFG would be a good choice as well if you can find somewhere that has the rears in stock. The Pirellis you linked to are also limited stock/backordered and Tire Rack hasn't done winter testing on them yet so it's hard to say for sure if they'll do the trick.
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