Why does every KIA Optima want to race?

Potty_Pants · 09-19-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by derrick603

Why is it that Hyundais and Kias seem to underperform compared to their horsepower specs? For example, Car and Driver tested a turbocharged Optima and only got it to trap 96 mph in the quarter. A 335i, with only 26 more horsepower, 31 lb/ft of torque, and similar weight traps almost 10 mph faster. Are they overrating their engines or is there some inefficiency somewhere?

german cars always underrated... asian overrated. american bah who knows.

ppp

AndreyT · 09-19-2012, 01:54 PM

Yet another thread with a BMW driver having an idea fix about evil Kias trying to race him... The previous one, if memory serves, was a guy stalked by an army of red Hyundai Genesis.

Potty_Pants · 09-19-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AndreyT

Yet another thread with a BMW driver having an idea fix about evil Kias trying to race him... The previous one, if memory serves, was a guy stalked by an army of red Hyundai Genesis.

see... now thats just wrong !

they wern't red... they were chardonnay

MattMD · 09-19-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by derrick603

Why is it that Hyundais and Kias seem to underperform compared to their horsepower specs? For example, Car and Driver tested a turbocharged Optima and only got it to trap 96 mph in the quarter. A 335i, with only 26 more horsepower, 31 lb/ft of torque, and similar weight traps almost 10 mph faster. Are they overrating their engines or is there some inefficiency somewhere?

I know the Optima turbo is torque limited up until 3rd gear. It really puts out about 200hp in 1st & 2nd. The trannys are designed for efficency too, sport isn't a factor.

274hp or w/e is really just a marketing ploy. The buyers won't know the difference, they just see the number & my 328i's tail lights.

Doctor///M · 09-19-2012, 02:22 PM

...because racecar.

Yeoman · 09-19-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by derrick603

Why is it that Hyundais and Kias seem to underperform compared to their horsepower specs? For example, Car and Driver tested a turbocharged Optima and only got it to trap 96 mph in the quarter. A 335i, with only 26 more horsepower, 31 lb/ft of torque, and similar weight traps almost 10 mph faster. Are they overrating their engines or is there some inefficiency somewhere?

They are geared for MPG

E90Company · 09-19-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by derrick603

Why is it that Hyundais and Kias seem to underperform compared to their horsepower specs? For example, Car and Driver tested a turbocharged Optima and only got it to trap 96 mph in the quarter. A 335i, with only 26 more horsepower, 31 lb/ft of torque, and similar weight traps almost 10 mph faster. Are they overrating their engines or is there some inefficiency somewhere?

Because we are way under-rated. Probably have more like 330hp at the crank. Also, power delivery comes into play. We have full torque by 1400rpm

DetectiveLoki · 09-19-2012, 03:01 PM

So far I've only been challenged by a Ford Cobra (which smoked me) and a 350z which I didn't bother....

derrick603 · 09-19-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Low Key OG

I know the Optima turbo is torque limited up until 3rd gear. It really puts out about 200hp in 1st & 2nd. The trannys are designed for efficency too, sport isn't a factor.

That could be a reasonable, but unfortunate, explanation, but I guess you can only do so much with FWD.

derrick603 · 09-19-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Yeoman

They are geared for MPG

The Optima turbo doesn't seem to be particularly high geared, it tops out at 34, 60, 92, and 122 mph in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gears respectively.

#Tee · 09-19-2012, 03:14 PM

lol he said displacement of a soda haha good stuff. They do look pretty cools tho, kia and hyundai are like the samsung of cars.

atown88 · 09-19-2012, 03:19 PM

Unfortunately I don't think my little N52 can keep up with one. 2 years can't come soon enough!

VMRWheels · 09-19-2012, 03:21 PM

The Kia Optima is actually a really nice car. Not for me, but still did a good job with the design.

CoralRed335XI · 09-19-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ~XxTeexX~

lol he said displacement of a soda haha good stuff. They do look pretty cools tho, kia and hyundai are like the samsung of cars.

Yes I did lol. For some reason I don't respect any sport car with less than 2 liters of displacement. I'm sure this statement will spark some debate

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MattMD · 09-19-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CoralRed335XI

Yes I did lol. For some reason I don't respect any sport car with less than 2 liters of displacement. I'm sure this statement will spark some debate

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Lotus Elise. Mazda Miata. S2000....the actual sports cars.

#Tee · 09-19-2012, 03:53 PM

I guess he respects the mazda mx3 2.5 v6 haha

Blubaron79 · 09-19-2012, 04:00 PM

Because they have a turbo, and when people see turbo, they think that means fast. Sorry Mr. Optima, but you lose to a 328, and 335 hands down.

Vegetable · 09-19-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ~XxTeexX~

I guess he respects the mazda mx3 2.5 v6 haha

the Mx3 had a 1.8-liter V6

ihc95 · 09-19-2012, 04:22 PM

lol fucking kia

Dark_Knight_335 · 09-19-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by techy1

I had something similar... hyundai genesis wanted to race and there was no one on the road really so i was like meh lemme show this guy who's boss.... little did i know this mofo pops outa no where....

Epic

There is always a bigger fish out there ladies!

RedRaiderDavid · 09-19-2012, 05:02 PM

Had some kid in a Mustang try to race me last night. I accelerated to get around a slow driver in front of me and then in my rearview mirror see these lights coming and I thought well its either a cop or someone thinks I wanna race. Pull up to a light look to my left and its a mustang. Light turns green, he guns it and when I see the back of his car I realize its a damn 6 cylinder. I almost raced him at that point....lol He had aftermarket wheels and a body kit and from the side it looked like a Cobra. lol

#Tee · 09-19-2012, 05:03 PM

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the Mx3 had a 1.8-liter V6

youre right!... but i guess he dont repect this 2.2 lol

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#Tee Major General 557 Rep 5,367 Posts Drives: yes Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Socal iTrader: (2)	lol he said displacement of a soda haha good stuff. They do look pretty cools tho, kia and hyundai are like the samsung of cars. __________________ You can follow my builds on IG: Tee212
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