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STETT Performance Stage 2 Oil Cooler Kit w/ 180F Thermostat **EXTENSIVE REVIEW/DIY**
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12-07-2010, 05:35 PM | #111 |
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Hey guys/gals.. we have launched a group buy for the oil coolers both with the thermostat options and without
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...45#post8457545 |
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12-07-2010, 05:37 PM | #112 |
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Just a quick response to Aridk's post... you can absolutely increase the effectiveness of the kit with a larger air opening, ie. removing fog lights. On most bumpers, removing the fog lights doubles the size of the opening
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12-08-2010, 04:48 AM | #113 | |
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I am not sure the foglight delete is needed at this point since my oil temps appear to be well in check. If they do get too high in the summer, then I will absolutely consider that option. STETT suggests that if you want more cooling, but I feel right now I am very pleased with the results. |
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12-08-2010, 11:05 AM | #114 | |
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12-17-2010, 04:58 PM | #115 |
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this by far the best oil cooler kit that I have seen, I saw the dinan oil cooler in person on and off the car and this kit is a lot better. Plus the fact the you can get a lower temp thermostat is the thing. Can you buy this kit as of now. I want one.
One more question, if you decide to opt out on the thermostat does the kit run with out a thermostat (so the system has no thermostat) cause I like that I idea here in Cali we never see freezing temp so I would not need one. |
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12-17-2010, 05:09 PM | #116 |
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Who cares if he gets this stuff for free, gets paid for it or gets it discounted... The point is its a great review, I'd assume he wouldn't review a product from a company that didn't put out a good product. With the money and effort Former puts into his vehicle I seriously doubt he'd stack parts on his car if he honestly didn't feel the parts were quality. Risking your car over a couple free or discounted parts? Not a chance. I hope not. As an ex owner of thier V1 CAI I can say I had a couple remarks or suggestions for their part, however can say I was satisfied overall as well. Thanks for the time.
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12-20-2010, 05:36 AM | #117 | |
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How cold do your temps ever go? |
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12-20-2010, 10:44 AM | #118 | |
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Thanks for the compliments
YES you can get the kit, in fact we have a group buy going over here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=1#post8533686 Quote:
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12-20-2010, 03:11 PM | #119 |
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Hey thanks for the response. The coolest I have ever seen around here was 38F.
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12-20-2010, 07:49 PM | #120 |
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Can the factory thermostat be removed from the housing? If so, you could then install an in-line thermostat by splicing it into the factory lines.
http://www.proracestore.com/index.ph...sourceid=GPPRS Thoughts? |
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12-21-2010, 05:19 AM | #122 |
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12-21-2010, 12:26 PM | #123 |
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12-21-2010, 04:55 PM | #124 | |
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Neither guys.. that's why we have an entire kit. Manufacturing a replacement OEM thermostat is so costly that it is prohibitive, plus you would then still have the less efficient factory cooler and nowhere near the quality of other components (ie hoses and fittings)
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12-21-2010, 06:35 PM | #126 |
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12-21-2010, 06:37 PM | #127 |
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Thanks to a much larger participant turn out, the group buy pricing just dropped!
For those who have not jumped on the group buy do so now! http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=462868 |
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12-22-2010, 10:45 AM | #128 | |
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As for attacking the quality of the BMW factory components, c'mon. They may not have properly anticipated the cooling needs of the car, but there is nothing in the factory system that is of poor quality. Last edited by roamer; 12-22-2010 at 11:32 AM.. |
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12-22-2010, 10:55 AM | #129 |
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roamer, while I appreciate you opinion, I couldn't disagree with it more. BMW has a ton of horribly designed parts on this car. It is almost comical how bad the stock intercooler is n the N54. It is the worst performing intercooler I have ever tested. The HPFP is an absolute piece of garbage. The injectors fail all the time. The VANOS solenoids chronically fail. BMW did a lot right with this car, but they did a lot wrong too.
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12-22-2010, 11:31 AM | #130 | |
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The STETT product is really nice, I just think they are missing out on the large majority of us who could solve their oil temp problem with a simpler and more cost-effective solution. If you track your car in high temps, I think you have to go with the larger cooler option. But, if you don't, a thermostat-only option would work great. Quite frankly, STETT's own product lineup has all the parts. Take the thermostat delete, add the aftermarket exterior thermostat, clip the factory ends off the oil lines and viola. This could probably be sold at ~$200 and still give these guys a nice margin. Then, if you find that this is not enough, spend the extra dough on the larger cooler. I am not entirely confident of what will happen if you pull out the thermostat from the factory housing which is the reason why I have not simply fabricated something myself. That's also why I would not mind paying for someone's engineering . . . |
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12-22-2010, 12:21 PM | #131 | |
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roamer,
Opinions are always welcomed. We are not "attacking" the quality of BMW's factory components. There are, however, numerous areas in which BMW slacked in many people's eyes. It happens with more manufacturers than just BMW. This is one of the big reasons there is an aftermarket industry. Now, simply splicing a thermostat into the factory lines is not as simple as you might think. First off, what are you going to do with the factory thermostat? Secondly, the non-standard design of the factory lines aren't compatible with commonly available parts. Thirdly, just because you allow flow to the factory cooler sooner doesn't mean you're going to drop the operating temperatures to an ideal range whether you're pushing the car or just cruising around town. The thermostat option we have is only needed in cooler climates where you need help getting the oil to operating temp due to ambient temperatures, it does not reduce the operating temperature of the oil. Once the oil is to operating temperature the thermostat becomes useless. The achievements we have made with our kits are based on the kit as a whole. There are engineering and performance reasons we have an entire kit. If you or anyone else want to try hacking something together on your BMW then by all means you are entitled to do so. There's no one product out there that is for everyone including ours. If you feel you do not need it then you don't have to purchase it Quote:
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12-22-2010, 12:31 PM | #132 | |
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No disrespect at ALL but $200 wouldn't even come close to covering the cost of all the parts you've spoken of. The parts we have in our lineup will NOT attach to the rest of your factory components.
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