Just Dynoed stock LCI 335I.. 302WHP 336WTQ

Soni · 07-21-2009, 02:40 PM

congrats!! Somehow you got treated special, most of our stock numbers are around 260whp

CanadianTSi · 07-21-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Guess

To me it makes really no difference. I intend to use the same dyno to see what gains I am getting off components

Nice to see someone who understands what a Dyno is for...

PaulBailey@ltbmw · 07-21-2009, 02:47 PM

There is no way you're at 302WHP stock.
That is what you're at the crank, not the wheels.
If you're at 302 stock and the wheels then you're at like 350 crank stock. . .
Which is ridiculous!

Edit: And now looking at your dyno chat, it says 302.6HP not WHP.
And if i recall correctly, it should say WHP or RWHP.

SpmnE9zero · 07-21-2009, 02:48 PM

I am skeptical as is everyone else. There is absolutely no way you are running 50-60 more rwhp than other stock 335's.
For those kind of numbers you need some pretty decent mods (chip, dp's, exhaust, etc.). Just not possible, is it?

I will say I had an unusually fast 350z as I raced a number of stock for stock other Z's (prior to modding) and took them pretty easily (3-4 cars to a 100).
But man this is epic if true!

RipsE92 · 07-21-2009, 02:50 PM

No way! I call BS .... something is not right. A stock 335i is NOT getting 302whp on a correctly calibrated dyno .... Period!

Maybe you had jet fuel in it.

jpsimon · 07-21-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Guess

My apologies, it's a Dynojet, I just called and confirmed, I was thinking Mustang Dyno as that is what my cobra was dyno'd on @ another shop in town.

To me it makes really no difference. I intend to use the same dyno to see what gains I am getting off components (primarily SSTT) and I just did it to serve my curiosity. I intend to take the car down the track at some point in the next two weeks to see what sort of numbers I am getting, and we will see if these hp numbers are accurate or way of depending on my ET's

that's all that matters

stealth-twntrbo · 07-21-2009, 02:55 PM

Maybe BMW is putting bigger turbos in the newer models? haha NOT

NOLA335i · 07-21-2009, 03:01 PM

My 2009 335i, 6MT, with 6,000 miles only pulled 258hp and 284tq on 91 octane. It was dyno'd last weekend. Hard to believe another stock one will pull 40 more horses. Attached (I think) is the graph) . . .

Lee

Nick@aep · 07-21-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

that's all that matters

X2. Peak dyno numbers mean next to nothing... What DOES mean something, is the power you add to your previous numbers by adding new mods.

Sounds like they just have a high reading dyno. Its not uncommon- most people just care about how high the number is. Interested to see the results of your tune!

Guess · 07-21-2009, 03:03 PM

Also, it may not make much of a difference, but usually does, I am running Pump gas Ultra 94 Octane. It's avail. here at all Sunoco gas stations.

You guys need to realize that I did the dyno not for the purposes of having a discussion or debate on, just to show gains in the future.
The same dyno showed 201whp on my 2006 325i 6MT back in 2005.

roozie2001 · 07-21-2009, 03:26 PM

if those numbers are true and your running stock boost. then on a high boost map tune like procede or jb3 and no other mods ur gonna damn near hit the 400whp club. and with full bolt ons u should be the fastest 335 out there hands down cuz ur gonna push close to 475 whp and 500 wtq

Tortfeasor 335xi · 07-21-2009, 03:50 PM

Those numbers are bogus. You make peak torque at 3100 rpm which is right before your HP line crosses it. HP is actually calculated: HP = (Tqe x RPM) / 5250. Which means that when you get to 5250 rpm TQE has to equal HP mathematically. In your case, the graph does not cross at 5250, but around 3500 rpm. Thus some sort of bogus correction factor was used bumping power up a high enough percentage to push the graph intersection all the way back to 3500 RPM.

Zeph · 07-21-2009, 04:16 PM

My stock dyno (dynojet) was 291 RWHP and 304 RWTQ on 93 octane. I always thought it was one of the higher stock ones I have ever seen. I dyno'ed again on a different dyno (mustang this time) with an SSTT and put down 310 RWHP and 330 RWTQ on 93 octane.

Dyno's and cars are all different, however I think this one is a bit skewed especially with the torque reading. That does look like a typical stock crank dyno. Plus with the HP/TQ not crossing anywhere near 5250'ish seems odd.

brianhn1 · 07-21-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tortfeasor 335xi

Those numbers are bogus. You make peak torque at 3100 rpm which is right before your HP line crosses it. HP is actually calculated: HP = (Tqe x RPM) / 5250. Which means that when you get to 5250 rpm TQE has to equal HP mathematically. In your case, the graph does not cross at 5250, but around 3500 rpm. Thus some sort of bogus correction factor was used bumping power up a high enough percentage to push the graph intersection all the way back to 3500 RPM.

Are you sure you're looking at the scales on both the left and right sides of the graph?

Tortfeasor 335xi · 07-21-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by brianhn1

Are you sure you're looking at the scales on both the left and right sides of the graph?

His peak HP is listed at 5250 rpm. There is no way it crosses there, even given that the scales on the left and right are not equal.

Mote · 07-21-2009, 04:57 PM

This thread is full of deception.

Guess · 07-21-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mote

This thread is full of deception.

Are you saying that somehow I deceived someone?

Mote · 07-21-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Guess

Are you saying that somehow I deceived someone?

I'm being lighthearted. Don't take it seriously.

roozie2001 · 07-21-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mote

This thread is full of deception.

i know. reminds me of the Obama presidency.

Eric@AMS · 07-21-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

Mustang Dyno's are notorious for LOWER numbers than dynojets... these numbers are much MUCH higher than all the dynojet numbers we've seen of stock cars.. Something isn't right

not true. Depending on how it's calibrated you can have a mustang dyno read a LOT higher than a dynojet.

Eric

GeorgeSmooth · 07-21-2009, 05:31 PM

This dyno must be tuned.

m3rxn · 07-21-2009, 05:59 PM

nice #s man.

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Tortfeasor 335xi Corporate Hack 4 Rep 288 Posts Drives: '08 335xi Coupe Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Princeton, NJ / Philly, PA iTrader: (0)	Those numbers are bogus. You make peak torque at 3100 rpm which is right before your HP line crosses it. HP is actually calculated: HP = (Tqe x RPM) / 5250. Which means that when you get to 5250 rpm TQE has to equal HP mathematically. In your case, the graph does not cross at 5250, but around 3500 rpm. Thus some sort of bogus correction factor was used bumping power up a high enough percentage to push the graph intersection all the way back to 3500 RPM. __________________ New Car: 2008 335xi Coupe Earlier Car: 2004 STi (got stolen) Earlier Earlier Car: 1995 Mustang GT (416 whp and a blown engine) Really Much Earlier Car: 1988 Mazda 626 TURBO
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Zeph Major 27 Rep 1,410 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335i 6MT SGM CR/BD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeast USA iTrader: (0)	My stock dyno (dynojet) was 291 RWHP and 304 RWTQ on 93 octane. I always thought it was one of the higher stock ones I have ever seen. I dyno'ed again on a different dyno (mustang this time) with an SSTT and put down 310 RWHP and 330 RWTQ on 93 octane. Dyno's and cars are all different, however I think this one is a bit skewed especially with the torque reading. That does look like a typical stock crank dyno. Plus with the HP/TQ not crossing anywhere near 5250'ish seems odd.
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