Request: Spec 2+ Clutch Review

tcw · 09-10-2012, 08:48 PM

I have seen a few post about the clutch from owners and know Shiv has it in their test mule. But, I was wondering if anyone could give it a more in depth review. The things I am most curious about is the drivability of the clutch in a DD, ie. chatter, stuttering, engagement, engagement point. I am planning on getting the version made for the stock flywheel (SB533H). So if anyone has this one specifically that would be great.

bigdnno98 · 09-10-2012, 08:59 PM

My Spec Stage 3+ with LW flywheel gets installed on the 19th. Review will follow.

jpsimon · 09-10-2012, 09:17 PM

I have the stage 3 clutch/flywheel. I think with the stock flywheel it would be awesome. The lightweight flywheel is noisy, without that it would be perfectly fine. I do have the stage 3 which is obviously a bit different, but you can expect a much smaller engagement point. you get used to it though

tcw · 09-10-2012, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

I have the stage 3 clutch/flywheel. I think with the stock flywheel it would be awesome. The lightweight flywheel is noisy, without that it would be perfectly fine. I do have the stage 3 which is obviously a bit different, but you can expect a much smaller engagement point. you get used to it though

Thanks for the input, hopefully someone can chime in that has the stock FW version.

uniter · 09-10-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

I have the stage 3 clutch/flywheel. I think with the stock flywheel it would be awesome. The lightweight flywheel is noisy, without that it would be perfectly fine. I do have the stage 3 which is obviously a bit different, but you can expect a much smaller engagement point. you get used to it though

Does the engagement point 'move' as it does in ACTs? (The floor.)

tcw · 09-10-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by uniter

Does the engagement point 'move' as it does in ACTs? (The floor.)

From my understanding, the one made for the stock FW adjust, but the one made for the aluminum FW does not.

12beat · 09-10-2012, 09:57 PM

I heard they are fantastic clutches. The power holding capacity is actually underrated as Shiv's car endorses this. They also carry a 2+ which can be had with the LWFW. The noise isn't as bad as you may think. I have a 2+ sitting in my garage waiting to be installed.

tcw · 09-11-2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 12beat

I heard they are fantastic clutches. The power holding capacity is actually underrated as Shiv's car endorses this. They also carry a 2+ which can be had with the LWFW. The noise isn't as bad as you may think. I have a 2+ sitting in my garage waiting to be installed.

To each his own, but I like the dampening effect of the DMFW that keeps noises and vibrations to a minimum.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 09-11-2012, 08:45 PM

They have been growing in popularity and we've sold quite a few. Hopefully some customers can chime in!

YMB_M3 · 09-14-2012, 05:10 PM

my clutch is slipping on stock turbos but making over 450wtq on e85
should i get the spec stg 2+, 3 or 3+?
or should i get the act 6 puck?

jpsimon · 09-14-2012, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uniter

Does the engagement point 'move' as it does in ACTs? (The floor.)

no, at least not with the LWFW which i have

tcw · 09-16-2012, 06:04 PM

Someone has to have this clutch with the stock FW and can speak to its drivability?

tcw · 10-03-2012, 09:40 PM

Still interested if anyone has a Spec 2+ with stock FW.

Tinaphpc · 10-03-2012, 10:24 PM

Hopefully some customers can chime in!

tcw · 10-04-2012, 07:41 PM

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tcw · 10-08-2012, 07:23 PM

Ughhh...

nemo07 · 10-10-2012, 01:35 PM

Hey all,

I've been meaning to write here about my experience with the Spec stg2+ clutch and LWFW.....

I like it!

It did take getting used to, but once I adapted to it and the clutched settled in, it felt good. As far at the chatter noise from the flywheel, it's on and off. Sometimes I'll be at the lights and I would hear nothing. Sometimes I'll hear some chatter. If I play my music at a normal hearing level, you barely hear it. Doesn't bother me at all.

I've launched the car a couple times with the new clutch and it sticks! I've also done a few highway pulls from 3rd to 4th to 5th. The clutch didn't slip at all and just gripped!

One thing I will say about this new clutch is that, I found I had to rev my engine a bit higher for the engagement. Cause of the LWFW the rpm's drop quicker then with the DMFW. That was my only change in my driving style. Engagement point I can't be certain to say if it has changed from my stock clutch, it feels it's the same point.

Hope this helps

tcw · 10-10-2012, 01:42 PM

Sounds good. I think I will go with the DMFW version as it should have the same power handling capability. Seeing that I haven't heard of any people having this clutch fail, plus it is the Vishnu single turbo go to clutch, I think it will be an adequate clutch. It also helps that it is a lot cheaper than the only other two nice alternatives (HPF and CM FX800) IMO.

JMARS · 10-10-2012, 11:58 PM

It looks like I'll be ordering the Stg 2+. Hopefully it holds up and doesn't rattle with 700whp

tcw · 10-13-2012, 09:22 AM

I would suggest using it with the DMFW, just seems like it reduces any chances of chatter or rattle.

E92murdered · 10-19-2012, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdnno98

My Spec Stage 3+ with LW flywheel gets installed on the 19th. Review will follow.

Any review on clutch ?

cstavaru · 10-19-2012, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E92murdered

Any review on clutch ?

He did post a review in multiple forums, just search. The conclusion is that the clutch is ok but the lightweight flywheel is not.

09-10-2012, 08:48 PM	#1
tcw Captain 52 Rep 748 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (2)	Request: Spec 2+ Clutch Review I have seen a few post about the clutch from owners and know Shiv has it in their test mule. But, I was wondering if anyone could give it a more in depth review. The things I am most curious about is the drivability of the clutch in a DD, ie. chatter, stuttering, engagement, engagement point. I am planning on getting the version made for the stock flywheel (SB533H). So if anyone has this one specifically that would be great. __________________ 2008 335I E92, AW, VFF700, 18" Forgestar F14, M3 front/side, M-tech rear, AMS IC, H&R Touring Cup Kit suspension, HID AE, ER Charge Pipe & Synapse BOV, CIC Retrofit, Quafie, DSS, Defiv Lockdown, SPEC 2+/Steel SMFW, Walbro 450
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09-10-2012, 08:59 PM	#2
bigdnno98 Real Car Enthusiast 288 Rep 2,082 Posts Drives: 340xi Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Germany iTrader: (8)	My Spec Stage 3+ with LW flywheel gets installed on the 19th. Review will follow.
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09-10-2012, 09:17 PM	#3
jpsimon Team Zissou 3064 Rep 10,197 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	I have the stage 3 clutch/flywheel. I think with the stock flywheel it would be awesome. The lightweight flywheel is noisy, without that it would be perfectly fine. I do have the stage 3 which is obviously a bit different, but you can expect a much smaller engagement point. you get used to it though
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09-10-2012, 09:57 PM	#7
12beat Second Lieutenant 5 Rep 253 Posts Drives: it's nice Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: 2 cars ahead of you iTrader: (2)	I heard they are fantastic clutches. The power holding capacity is actually underrated as Shiv's car endorses this. They also carry a 2+ which can be had with the LWFW. The noise isn't as bad as you may think. I have a 2+ sitting in my garage waiting to be installed.
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09-11-2012, 08:45 PM	#9
Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3441 Rep 79,212 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	They have been growing in popularity and we've sold quite a few. Hopefully some customers can chime in!
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09-14-2012, 05:10 PM	#10
YMB_M3 Captain 227 Rep 658 Posts Drives: 2018 BSM M3 6MT Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (-1)	my clutch is slipping on stock turbos but making over 450wtq on e85 should i get the spec stg 2+, 3 or 3+? or should i get the act 6 puck?
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09-16-2012, 06:04 PM	#12
tcw Captain 52 Rep 748 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (2)	Someone has to have this clutch with the stock FW and can speak to its drivability? __________________ 2008 335I E92, AW, VFF700, 18" Forgestar F14, M3 front/side, M-tech rear, AMS IC, H&R Touring Cup Kit suspension, HID AE, ER Charge Pipe & Synapse BOV, CIC Retrofit, Quafie, DSS, Defiv Lockdown, SPEC 2+/Steel SMFW, Walbro 450
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10-03-2012, 09:40 PM	#13
tcw Captain 52 Rep 748 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (2)	Still interested if anyone has a Spec 2+ with stock FW. __________________ 2008 335I E92, AW, VFF700, 18" Forgestar F14, M3 front/side, M-tech rear, AMS IC, H&R Touring Cup Kit suspension, HID AE, ER Charge Pipe & Synapse BOV, CIC Retrofit, Quafie, DSS, Defiv Lockdown, SPEC 2+/Steel SMFW, Walbro 450
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Tinaphpc New Member 0 Rep 26 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Scotts Hill iTrader: (0)	Hopefully some customers can chime in!
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10-08-2012, 07:23 PM	#16
tcw Captain 52 Rep 748 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (2)	Ughhh... __________________ 2008 335I E92, AW, VFF700, 18" Forgestar F14, M3 front/side, M-tech rear, AMS IC, H&R Touring Cup Kit suspension, HID AE, ER Charge Pipe & Synapse BOV, CIC Retrofit, Quafie, DSS, Defiv Lockdown, SPEC 2+/Steel SMFW, Walbro 450
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10-10-2012, 01:35 PM	#17
nemo07 JBC 35 Rep 310 Posts Drives: E92 AW 335i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mississauga iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	Hey all, I've been meaning to write here about my experience with the Spec stg2+ clutch and LWFW..... I like it! It did take getting used to, but once I adapted to it and the clutched settled in, it felt good. As far at the chatter noise from the flywheel, it's on and off. Sometimes I'll be at the lights and I would hear nothing. Sometimes I'll hear some chatter. If I play my music at a normal hearing level, you barely hear it. Doesn't bother me at all. I've launched the car a couple times with the new clutch and it sticks! I've also done a few highway pulls from 3rd to 4th to 5th. The clutch didn't slip at all and just gripped! One thing I will say about this new clutch is that, I found I had to rev my engine a bit higher for the engagement. Cause of the LWFW the rpm's drop quicker then with the DMFW. That was my only change in my driving style. Engagement point I can't be certain to say if it has changed from my stock clutch, it feels it's the same point. Hope this helps __________________ Cobb Protune (PTF), HFS-4 Meth Kit, DCI, PTF Twin Disk Clutch, Raceland DP's, OCC, F1 Racewerks IC, ER Charge Pipe, Forged DV's, CSL Rep Trunk, Aero lip, Mtech Rear, Custom Ground Control Coilovers, 235/35/19 275/30/19, Quaife LSD, Diff Lockdown Kit, DSS Half Shafts, M3 subframe bushing, M3 Rear Sway Bar
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10-10-2012, 01:42 PM	#18
tcw Captain 52 Rep 748 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (2)	Sounds good. I think I will go with the DMFW version as it should have the same power handling capability. Seeing that I haven't heard of any people having this clutch fail, plus it is the Vishnu single turbo go to clutch, I think it will be an adequate clutch. It also helps that it is a lot cheaper than the only other two nice alternatives (HPF and CM FX800) IMO. __________________ 2008 335I E92, AW, VFF700, 18" Forgestar F14, M3 front/side, M-tech rear, AMS IC, H&R Touring Cup Kit suspension, HID AE, ER Charge Pipe & Synapse BOV, CIC Retrofit, Quafie, DSS, Defiv Lockdown, SPEC 2+/Steel SMFW, Walbro 450
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10-10-2012, 11:58 PM	#19
JMARS Not Baned 85 Rep 1,352 Posts Drives: e92 Single-T Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Boca Raton, FL iTrader: (5)	It looks like I'll be ordering the Stg 2+. Hopefully it holds up and doesn't rattle with 700whp __________________ FFTEC 900 - 6466 \| PR PI Stg4 \| Motiv Tune/BB/FF \| Spec Stg 2+ \| Quaife LSD \| DSS Half-shafts VRSF Race IC \| VRSF Charge Pipe \| Evo Dual Oil Cooler \| BC Coilover \| To be continued...
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10-13-2012, 09:22 AM	#20
tcw Captain 52 Rep 748 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (2)	I would suggest using it with the DMFW, just seems like it reduces any chances of chatter or rattle. __________________ 2008 335I E92, AW, VFF700, 18" Forgestar F14, M3 front/side, M-tech rear, AMS IC, H&R Touring Cup Kit suspension, HID AE, ER Charge Pipe & Synapse BOV, CIC Retrofit, Quafie, DSS, Defiv Lockdown, SPEC 2+/Steel SMFW, Walbro 450
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