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02-10-2013, 04:48 PM | #45 |
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I wonder how he keeps the ST kit owners so quiet! Not much word about track times nor the announced "easy fix" for the 6AT slipping problems. Don't get me wrong, such a fix would be a great thing and we might all benefit from it. But the lack of updates are disturbing.
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02-10-2013, 04:56 PM | #46 | ||
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Capt insano's car was running like a champ at the airstrip event, his car is a 6mt, the autos were having transmission problems from the power. More RB guys are going to the track (1/4 mile) than single turbos. And the singles that do go aren't properly set up to put down the power. RB turbos or Vargas stage 2 can't be at all compared to the large single power wise. As for performance, it has nothing to do with the kit, just the driver and his suspension/fender/tire mods.
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02-10-2013, 05:50 PM | #47 | |
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02-10-2013, 06:10 PM | #48 |
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Are you talking about JB4? All tunes work out of the box so I'm not sure what you are talking about... When you start pushing the limits like we do, you're bound to run into all different types of issues. Both JB4 and PROcede have issues with trims. Shiv fixed this with a DME flash. Then people bitched so Terry offered everyone a COBB based solution which on his part was a great after the fact move. But, now JB owners have to go out and buy a COBB AP for $800 to get the free solution from BMS. Like you said, you paid hundreds for a tune and expect it to work and now you have to pay almost double what you paid for the JB4 to get a better tune only to patch what your piggy can't overcome. Funny people didn't bitch more about that, but when FFTEC offered the booster pump, people went off the hook because of the price. So what does Vishnu and BMS offer today other than hijacking and meth control? Maybe we all need to go out and buy a COBB AP and Aquamist Meth controller and we wouldn't have to deal with these issues anymore.
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02-10-2013, 07:10 PM | #49 | |
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I have the flex kit and honestly I don't use it. Map 3 was setup to use map 2 and run leaner than map 2, but doesn't include the option for meth. So I'm currently running map 2. I don't run map 4 because I don't want it jumping from map 1 to map 2. I have map 1 setup for pump gas and map 2 for 100% e85 with meth. Doesn't need meth, but I see a few whp gain with it enabled. Although I have an upgrade I'm not using, I'm happy with my tune and have spent enough time on a dyno to know unless I go single or upgraded twins, I'm not going to get much more out of my ride as it sits. Hopefully this spell of quite will bring something new to the table. As we all know, that's usually the case. How it's received is another issue all in it's own. |
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02-10-2013, 07:27 PM | #50 | |
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02-10-2013, 07:28 PM | #51 | |
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Obviously I'm not comparing vishnu to apple but it's on the same lines of a product that you use to think was superior such as I did with the Procede. But as I see other products and what they're offering and catching up and even surpassing what my current procede does, it's frustrating. Also, I change my maps often, I feel I should never need to use map 0 as a compromise/limitation. The tune was initially designed to run 93 so I dont feel I should need to compromise my performance because the lack of promised updates have not come. The map 3 N/A map should have been blown up and reassigned a year ago since it can't even been used. I'm just pointing out obvious flaws with vishnu and co. the past few months. |
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02-10-2013, 08:04 PM | #52 | |
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How about a Rev 4? WIFI, GPS, Accelerometers and the ability to remote tune and data log over the Internet. Give it the ability to write to the DME so you can make table changes on the fly. Now connect your G4 Internet enabled tablet and the sky's the limit. How about drag racing someone the other side of the country? Or going to a track day and being able to log everything or how about interface it with your GoPro video so you can put your stats onscreen. How cool would that be? Would you buy it? Would you switch from COBB or JB4 to have the latest toys? |
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02-10-2013, 08:09 PM | #53 | |
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Those are pretty good ideas but who knows what vishnu is working on now, unfortunately, the past 3 big new updates have been flops. 1.) Flex Fuel (Never took off) 2.) Addt'l fuel pump 3.) Single Turbo to an extent |
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02-10-2013, 08:11 PM | #54 | |
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There is good news on that front though, with a little legwork, you can run an AP with Procede without any issues. And as someone who owns RBs and run them pretty hard on a 6AT at 21psi on E85 + meth, I am fully aware of the fueling limitations of piggy only. Even then, you can run 18psi or so on RBs with 93+meth without any trim issues. Only becomes an issue on E85. Just saying, it isn't much to ask to have something work properly out the box for the great majority of owners out there (e.g. 93 octane with bolt-ons).
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02-10-2013, 08:12 PM | #55 | |
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02-10-2013, 08:15 PM | #56 | |
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IIRC, Terry's 135i also is an 09 though, so it should make little difference. PS: road course events take a far greater toll on a car than a few passes at the drag strip.
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02-10-2013, 08:36 PM | #57 | |
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02-10-2013, 09:25 PM | #58 |
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Unlike the majority of you I have actually met Shiv a few times ans he has tuned my car. He is good at what he does....tuning and developing platforms.
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02-10-2013, 10:32 PM | #59 |
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So? I've met Shiv too. He's used my car as a guinea pig for chronic 6AT misfire issues which were CPS related back in the day.
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02-10-2013, 10:39 PM | #60 | |
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And like I said, it's quite possible to run an AP with Procede. Just take CPS wires out, reduce bias and have at it! It's no different than running an AP with JB4 really. Honestly, I'd rather go Procede if stacking simply because it has a true Map 0 passthrough which the JB4 ISO does not. But you also have to weigh in the support factor since Vishnu does not condone such a setup
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02-10-2013, 11:57 PM | #61 |
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It seems that the inevitable has happened. He's been run off by other companies. Just like the Subaru and Mitsubishi markets. Is he still in those markets? Sure is. Is he active in them? Not exactly. Unless he pops his head in here and proves the world wrong, only time will tell. Being the first to market is important. What's even more important is long term customer service. Something that Vishnu has never been good at IMO.
I've met him also, back in '03. He came to Colorado for a high altitude tuning day. Not only was he baffled by the tuning issues associated with the area, but he was a real prick when it came to other products on the dyno that day. Not a single person had respect for him after the day was over. Especially the shop's staff, and they were a Vishnu dealer. He acted very childish and he lost my business for life as a result. I had little respect for him prior to that day, and zero after the fact. I doubt he'll be missed for long around here. Good riddance and good luck with your new platform Shiv, what ever that may be. BRZ/FRS presumably. Edit: his last log in was yesterday, so he's keeping an eye on the forum. |
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02-11-2013, 06:40 AM | #63 | |
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I think Vishnu are losing out on a lot of return business. I was very much on track to get their PWM meth kit and other things after my procede. Not anymore though. The last thing that made me decide to wait and see what happens with vishnu before giving them any more business is what happened to Tenshiwingusu. He got a procede 2.5 for his 07, and had severe boost control issues, worst oscillations on map0. He sent the unit back with detailed descriptions of the problems, and after testing the unit in their shop car, Vishnu concluded the procede ran fine. After getting it back, long behold the problems were still there. Per Vishnu's recommendation he replaced both boost solenoids and all vacuum lines, still no dice. He sent the unit back again, and was finally told the unit was obviously bad and they would ship him a different one... makes me wonder how thorough their testing was the first time around.
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02-11-2013, 10:25 AM | #65 | |
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Since his car is the only one doing it out of ten or twelve cars with the ST I don't really see the point.
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02-11-2013, 10:33 AM | #66 |
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I made the switch too. Lack of support finally got to me.
I will say that the Vishnu meth kit is far superior compared to the BMS kit though With that said the jb4 makes some serious power! |
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