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09-06-2012, 01:10 PM | #45 |
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Hey guys obviously I cant say too much on here because I am not a Vendor. I did contact the admin before I actually talked to *********** and did not receive a reply about being a vendor. I would love to be one so Admin feel free to shoot me a PM or email me to discuss terms. In the mean time feel free to follow the thread on the other site for updates until I can become a Vendor on this site. And to answer the question above. I actually set up a wholesale account with them to get those Billet actuators and was going to offer them as an option. But As Rob from RB has stated in the past. There really is not need for them besides cool factor the stock units are very capable and work great at a good price. I still might offer them but they really wont equate to any real numbers from what I can see, too bad you cant see them once they are installed cause they look bad ass. Looking forward to what is to come and helping this community with quality products.
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09-06-2012, 01:23 PM | #48 |
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I know who these guys are.
I live in the Bay Area and they were doing turbo development and custom stuff as far back as 1981 when my brother was drag racing. They were doing all kinds of custom stuff back then. I'm glad they are getting in the game. This means I don't need to go out of town to get good replacements. YEAH! They should be able to do anything RB and Vishnu do with their stuff. I don't work for them or speak for them, but I can vouch for their work. They do go waaaaayyyy back in terms of turbo development and have been in the same area for all those 35 years. If my turbos die, I know where I'll be shopping. |
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stage 3 would be very nice,
If you guys make stage 3 im in.
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09-06-2012, 02:16 PM | #51 |
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09-06-2012, 02:33 PM | #52 |
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yes please keep us posted
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09-06-2012, 05:39 PM | #53 |
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pm me specs and info on release date and $uch.. thanks
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09-06-2012, 10:40 PM | #55 |
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Elaborate please?
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If you cant see the maps check the other thread Here is a guy running those Billet AWD basically Stage 1's I was asking about. Not bad numbers at all. Maybe I will look into a Billet wheel option. "On my last visit, car made this... Mods: AWD turbos, PROceed 12-17, AA Meth, iCarbon Dp, Vanguard Exhaust, AA intercooler, Vishnu DCI. + 100 Oct. @ 17psi Temp: 67 degrees I was unhappy with the result since I ran higher octane fuel with meth. However, my meth kit was just dumping too much meth, got molested I didn't even bother turning up the boost more and just called it a day. So yesterday dispite the blazing hot weather here in So.Cal, I decided to dyno my baby with few new additions. I drove to MD Automotive in Westminster (Mark the owner is an awesome guy!) it took me about an hour and half to get there. Temperture showing 85 degrees, this is going to be great As soon as I got there, I asked Mark to strap her down! Mark asked me if I want to wait for my car to cool down but I was just too eager to dyno my badboy. Plus, if someone wants to race me, they ain't gonna give me time to cool down But man it was a hot day yesterday... Right before the dyno I told FrankiE90 "I would be so happy to see 450 in this weather." First 3 runs...car made 380...400...410....I was like NOOOOOOO. So disappointed. FBO, upgraded turbos, 100oct, meth, 18psi...380!? I plugged in my laptop, fired up PROceed User Software... Max Boost: 20 UT: 80 Ign.Corr. 100%.......100%!? Isn't that supposed to be 0%!? Fixed. And this is what happened. Mods: AWD Turbos, PROceed 6-14 Beta, Vishnu PWM Meth kit, AA intercooler, GRUppe M Intake, AR DP, Vanguard Exhaust + 100ct ( I had about 78 miles remaining on my tank with 91oct and I topped it off with 100oct from 76 gas station) So mod difference from last time - Vishnu Meth kit (50/50), GRuppe M intake, AR catless downpipes and PROceed 6-14 beta map. Temperture: 85-91 degrees. Humid. I was really happy with numbers it made. Very consistent, on the road car feels unbelievable. If the weather permitted, with higher mix meth 75/25, I should be able to make 480. Easily. Car did 7.9 sec @ Irwindale last night @ 105 degree weather. Boost set up 18psi. Not bad really. Going to up to visit my brother this weekend to run his C63 AMG. I can't wait to see how badly I beat his little AMG this time Thanks to LTBMW for Meth/chargepipe install Thank you dezenno, enrita, RK10004 for answering my PM all the time Thanks to Vishnu! Shiv & Robert for answering my call & respond to my email so quick!! P.S. I could have ran higher meth mix but I choose Boost juice since that's what I will be running most of the times. I don't like mixing meth at home all the time and also alot of members here will run Boost juice just like myself. I will eventually do more dyno runs with different fuel variables, 75/25 with 106oct...shop next to LTBMW even has 116 oct but I will pass on that |
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09-06-2012, 11:08 PM | #58 |
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My last post had to do with the Forge actuators. Not sure how it was taken out of context. As for the RBs, since brought up, profits are surprisingly low. In fact youll make more on your stage 1 option than I do on RBs. Stage 1s could be done at about $1200 and still have a $1000 markup, especially when you buy all the OEM centers (most still good) for $20 ea from RB who refuses to sell a product he knows is inferior to the new OEM units that are completely brand new complete turbofolds. But that is just the difference between 40 years of business and 8, ethics may skip a generation apparently.
PS. I dont think youll fail per se. Just think your vision of process will have some disappointments the further you move along, which will in turn drive your pricing up more and more. Been there, done that. Good luck. Last edited by Rob@RBTurbo; 09-06-2012 at 11:13 PM.. |
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09-06-2012, 11:30 PM | #61 |
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I don't mean to be skeptical, but batmowheels? Fail. ASR "Stage 2"? Never heard from them again. Helix turbos? No hard data. Until Vishnu came out with the single turbo, the only upgrade that provided REAL gains were the RB and ASR turbos.
With all that said, if Vargas can pump out a stage 2 offering that can offer equivalent performance from RBs at $1000 less, very impressive. If not, Rob Beck has nothing to worry about.
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09-06-2012, 11:57 PM | #63 |
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To the novice I really may look foolish, I agree. Good luck, and let me know if you need any more OEM centers they are piling up again.
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09-06-2012, 11:59 PM | #64 |
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Guys I think we should all take it easy.
Remember WE as the community are the ones who will also benefit from this. If he can produce a product that pushes the limits of the platform and helps create a competitive (read cost friendly) environment it's all fine by me. By having so much negativity being directed towards him already how do you think he feels about pursuing this project and doing business in the future with the n54 community? Constructive feedback and technical discussion is always great, but some posts are straight out filled with negativity (even some hate/jealousy). Let's provide all the feedback and info we can and hope that it leads to the production of a great product for all of us. Some members had decent success with "stage 1" type upgrades over the stockers and with a wastegate solution they will have even more potential and it's POSSIBLE that we might be able to hold more power until redline. Now I know that the exhaust side is the biggest restriction on these turbos and upping boost at redline just creates backpressure and heat, but at the same time a clipped turbine in theory will provide better flow at our bottleneck point. Now HOW MUCH better is what remains to be seen, but with a clipped turbine helping with flow and possibly a wastegate solution I do see where these turbos will have their place in the market and there is potential for good gains in the midrange and hopefully better power upto redline. Beyond that anybody who blew their stockers, why not pick up a set of stage 1's for a GREAT price and have some benefits from the purchase as well? I'm just trying to stay positive here... stage 1 leads to stage 2.... which will eventually lead to stage 3 and that's what most of us here have been waiting for, for a longggg longgg time.
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It's not a lot of talk from someone that has been doing turbo stuff more than quite a bit of this forum has been alive. |
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09-07-2012, 01:00 AM | #66 |
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Big developments coming out of Hayward, CA. Which I happen to also live in!
Can't wait till my turbo's go out. I know who to go to. |
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