E90Post
 


 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > DIY Guides > DIY: BMW Short Shift Kit (SSK) for 335i



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-30-2010, 10:57 PM   #133
HRC
MAUI BUILT
HRC's Avatar
United_States
485
Rep
7,781
Posts

Drives: 2006 330i MT
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NORCAL

iTrader: (10)

Garage List
2002 E46 325i  [0.00]
2012 E70 35i  [0.00]
Pics of my problem, N, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th & 6th

Danny
Attached Images
       
__________________
Arctic/Blk Leather/Alum.Trim/MT/ZSP/Sunshades/Blk Lines/M3 Illuminated Knob/Alcantara Performance Wheel/M-E-Brake Handle/Euro Fog Switch/Koni Yellows/H&R Sport Springs/19" VMR V718's w/PS2 Tires/M-Tech Body Kit/Carbon Fiber Spoiler/Bimmian Interior Bulbs/OEM Eye Glass Tray/SSK/Alcantara Boot/Split Armrest/OEM Dual Rear Power Outlets/Rear Ashtray Delete/OEM Alum. Pedals/Osram 6000K/Brex Rings/LED Side Markers/BMS Power Box
Appreciate 0
      01-30-2010, 11:06 PM   #134
DJKhan85
Major
DJKhan85's Avatar
Trinidad_and_tobago
24
Rep
1,190
Posts

Drives: 2011 4dr 6mt Golf GTI
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Boston Massachusetts

iTrader: (1)

Well the lever only goes in 1 of 2 ways. If it doesn't work 1 way, then flip it. Are you saying that it has problems when put in both ways?
__________________
2011 VW GTI 4dr-6mt-Sunroof-Nav-Xenons
OLD:
08 335i AW/CR/Poplar 6mt-ZSP-ZPP-ZCW-iPod-iDrive-PDC-Style 230s w/FK 452-Dinan LSD
Appreciate 0
      01-30-2010, 11:10 PM   #135
HRC
MAUI BUILT
HRC's Avatar
United_States
485
Rep
7,781
Posts

Drives: 2006 330i MT
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NORCAL

iTrader: (10)

Garage List
2002 E46 325i  [0.00]
2012 E70 35i  [0.00]
I've only installed it one time. I assumed it was right only because of the other member who had the opposite problem with 2nd, 4th and 6th.

Danny
__________________
Arctic/Blk Leather/Alum.Trim/MT/ZSP/Sunshades/Blk Lines/M3 Illuminated Knob/Alcantara Performance Wheel/M-E-Brake Handle/Euro Fog Switch/Koni Yellows/H&R Sport Springs/19" VMR V718's w/PS2 Tires/M-Tech Body Kit/Carbon Fiber Spoiler/Bimmian Interior Bulbs/OEM Eye Glass Tray/SSK/Alcantara Boot/Split Armrest/OEM Dual Rear Power Outlets/Rear Ashtray Delete/OEM Alum. Pedals/Osram 6000K/Brex Rings/LED Side Markers/BMS Power Box
Appreciate 0
      01-31-2010, 02:50 AM   #136
HRC
MAUI BUILT
HRC's Avatar
United_States
485
Rep
7,781
Posts

Drives: 2006 330i MT
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NORCAL

iTrader: (10)

Garage List
2002 E46 325i  [0.00]
2012 E70 35i  [0.00]
Fixed, it was the wrong way.

Danny
__________________
Arctic/Blk Leather/Alum.Trim/MT/ZSP/Sunshades/Blk Lines/M3 Illuminated Knob/Alcantara Performance Wheel/M-E-Brake Handle/Euro Fog Switch/Koni Yellows/H&R Sport Springs/19" VMR V718's w/PS2 Tires/M-Tech Body Kit/Carbon Fiber Spoiler/Bimmian Interior Bulbs/OEM Eye Glass Tray/SSK/Alcantara Boot/Split Armrest/OEM Dual Rear Power Outlets/Rear Ashtray Delete/OEM Alum. Pedals/Osram 6000K/Brex Rings/LED Side Markers/BMS Power Box
Appreciate 0
      03-03-2010, 05:38 PM   #137
Castel
Captain
Castel's Avatar
United_States
71
Rep
801
Posts

Drives: Tanzanite Blue '13 E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portland, OR

iTrader: (6)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SC335 View Post
Couldn't agree more with also replacing the shifting arm. What a pain. However, the feel is a lot better than just replacing the short shifter lever. Since the SSK shifting arm is taller in size where the lever is attached, I could not install it by rotating it around the driveshaft. I actually dropped in from inside the car and worked in. Hope this helps...
I just finished the SSK kit install and let me tell ya... the Shift Arm replacement is a bitch! The rear bushing is so difficult to get loose and everything is so tight, very uncomfortable to work in there. I have no idea how you were able to drop the shift arm from inside the car. I tried that too endlessly and was only able to do it from underneath after a while!, bending the heat shield way back and dropping the Transmission Cross brace to get a little more room. It felt like playing tetris or some building blocks game when I was trying to set the shift arm in place and get pass the freaking drive shaft. Exhausting... But now that I'm done it's great! Love the shifting action in my car now .
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2010, 10:13 PM   #138
LKNGOOD
Private
LKNGOOD's Avatar
4
Rep
91
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i w/6sp manual.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wylie, TX

iTrader: (2)

I just ordered the BMW E90/91/92/93 3 Series 'M' Perforated Leather Shift Knob/Boot and E-Brake Handle Kit from Tischer BMW. (Item Number: PKE90KNOBBRAKE)

I also want the Short Shifter Kit but don't need the Alcantara Shift Boot or the Alcantara Shift Knob that comes with the SSK.

I want to use the "M" Perforated Leather Shift Knob/Boot and still have a short shifter. Based on e90post.com, these are the parts I need for a short shifter without buying the entire SSK.

Part Number:
25 11 0434219 - Shift Lever (aka short shift lever) $66
25 11 1220600 - Bearing Shift Lever $6.48
(Part number 25111220600 was superseded by part number 25111469397)
25 11 1220379 - Circlip $0.54
Part number 25111220379 was superseded by part number 25117571899.

Are these the exact same parts that is included in the SSK (Short Shifter Kit) minus the Alcantara Shift Knob and Alcantara Shift Boot? Do I need to order anything else to have the same SSK if I use the "M" Perforated Shift Knob and boot that I just ordered.

Thanks,
Mike Nguyen
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2010, 11:06 PM   #139
Castel
Captain
Castel's Avatar
United_States
71
Rep
801
Posts

Drives: Tanzanite Blue '13 E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portland, OR

iTrader: (6)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LKNGOOD View Post
I just ordered the BMW E90/91/92/93 3 Series 'M' Perforated Leather Shift Knob/Boot and E-Brake Handle Kit from Tischer BMW. (Item Number: PKE90KNOBBRAKE)

I also want the Short Shifter Kit but don't need the Alcantara Shift Boot or the Alcantara Shift Knob that comes with the SSK.

I want to use the "M" Perforated Leather Shift Knob/Boot and still have a short shifter. Based on e90post.com, these are the parts I need for a short shifter without buying the entire SSK.

Part Number:
25 11 0434219 - Shift Lever (aka short shift lever) $66
25 11 1220600 - Bearing Shift Lever $6.48
(Part number 25111220600 was superseded by part number 25111469397)
25 11 1220379 - Circlip $0.54
Part number 25111220379 was superseded by part number 25117571899.

Are these the exact same parts that is included in the SSK (Short Shifter Kit) minus the Alcantara Shift Knob and Alcantara Shift Boot? Do I need to order anything else to have the same SSK if I use the "M" Perforated Shift Knob and boot that I just ordered.

Thanks,
Mike Nguyen
What you need to do is check out this link: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...83&hg=25&fg=95

This IS what I just did a week ago, what you are describing. The kit and I got the M perforated leather. Check the link, your part numbers are not right forthe real 335i SSK. I think you have the parts for the 330i short lever, but that's not the real OEM SSK. The big difference is the Shift Arm, check the link and PM me if you have questions as I just did what you want to do.

Only thing is that I don't think they sale the SSK alone, I got from a forum member used. Good luck!
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2010, 11:04 AM   #140
LKNGOOD
Private
LKNGOOD's Avatar
4
Rep
91
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i w/6sp manual.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wylie, TX

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Castel View Post
What you need to do is check out this link: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...83&hg=25&fg=95

This IS what I just did a week ago, what you are describing. The kit and I got the M perforated leather. Check the link, your part numbers are not right forthe real 335i SSK. I think you have the parts for the 330i short lever, but that's not the real OEM SSK. The big difference is the Shift Arm, check the link and PM me if you have questions as I just did what you want to do.

Only thing is that I don't think they sale the SSK alone, I got from a forum member used. Good luck!
Ok - thanks,

Just looked up my vehicle (e90 335i - Sedan)

Looks like I just need the parts listed in red.

02 Performance shift knob 6-GANG 1 25110429269 $114.95 See PIZ sz_040_02_08
03 Boot for Performance shift knob ALCANTARA 1 25110435847 $53.50 See PIZ sz_040_02_08
04 Bearing, shift lever 1 25111220600 $10.33
05 Shift lever 1 25110434217 $109.95 +core
06 Circlip 1 25111220379 ENDED
07 SHIFTING ARM 1 25110434218 $254.95 +core

If not - I guess I can just purchase the whole kit for $195 + $185 more for the 335i = $375 from Tischer and then sell the shift knob and boot that comes with it seperately.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2010, 11:23 AM   #141
Castel
Captain
Castel's Avatar
United_States
71
Rep
801
Posts

Drives: Tanzanite Blue '13 E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portland, OR

iTrader: (6)

^^^ That's what you'll need to do, buy the whole kit and sell the boot and shift knob. You are missing the SHIFT ARM, it's not in red.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2010, 06:23 PM   #142
srcstc
Major
United_States
82
Rep
1,365
Posts

Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NJ

iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Castel View Post
^^^ That's what you'll need to do, buy the whole kit and sell the boot and shift knob. You are missing the SHIFT ARM, it's not in red.
I have the whole kit minus the boot and shift knob if you're interested.
Appreciate 0
      03-07-2010, 08:26 AM   #143
LKNGOOD
Private
LKNGOOD's Avatar
4
Rep
91
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i w/6sp manual.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wylie, TX

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by srcstc View Post
I have the whole kit minus the boot and shift knob if you're interested.
Yes - Maybe interested ^^^. I'll send you a PM.

Thanks,
Mike
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2010, 01:35 PM   #144
LKNGOOD
Private
LKNGOOD's Avatar
4
Rep
91
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i w/6sp manual.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wylie, TX

iTrader: (2)

After reviewing all the DIY for this SSK - looks like no one has replaced the "SHIFTING ARM" - Part #1 25110434218 $254.95 +core that is included in the e90 335i short shifter kit.

Is this part a Pain in the @ss to replace? This may be the one reason I'm just going to get the "M" Perforated Shift Knob and call it a day.

Anyone installed the "true" ssk for the 335i and if so - you was it to install this extra part? (07 SHIFTING ARM 1 25110434218 $254.95 +core).

Thanks,
Mike
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2010, 01:50 PM   #145
Castel
Captain
Castel's Avatar
United_States
71
Rep
801
Posts

Drives: Tanzanite Blue '13 E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portland, OR

iTrader: (6)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LKNGOOD View Post
After reviewing all the DIY for this SSK - looks like no one has replaced the "SHIFTING ARM" - Part #1 25110434218 $254.95 +core that is included in the e90 335i short shifter kit.

Is this part a Pain in the @ss to replace? This may be the one reason I'm just going to get the "M" Perforated Shift Knob and call it a day.

Anyone installed the "true" ssk for the 335i and if so - you was it to install this extra part? (07 SHIFTING ARM 1 25110434218 $254.95 +core).

Thanks,
Mike
Hi Mike,

As I said in my earlier post, I installed the "true" BMW OEM SSK in my 335i INCLUDING the Shift Arm. It was a pain to replace it because there's not much room to work in there. The shift arm lies over the driveshaft so you have to work around it. You also have to bend the heat shield further back in order to be able to take it out. If you have worked on your car before, go for it, at least check it out. Taking the previous shift arm out is the difficult part, putting in the new shift arm in is a lot easier. If I where you I'll jack the car up and take out the plastic panel and check out the assembly for myself. You'll get an idea of how much room you have under the car and how the shift arm is held in place. If you decide to do this or buy the kit and do it yourself send me a PM and I'll help you out/give you a couple of pointers/tips so you know what to look for. Another forum member, dtp3347, gave me some pointers and what to look for and this helped me out immensely.

If you are unable to do it after trying it out have an independent shop do it.

Good luck!
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2010, 03:59 PM   #146
LKNGOOD
Private
LKNGOOD's Avatar
4
Rep
91
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i w/6sp manual.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wylie, TX

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Castel View Post
Hi Mike,

As I said in my earlier post, I installed the "true" BMW OEM SSK in my 335i INCLUDING the Shift Arm. It was a pain to replace it because there's not much room to work in there. The shift arm lies over the driveshaft so you have to work around it. You also have to bend the heat shield further back in order to be able to take it out. If you have worked on your car before, go for it, at least check it out. Taking the previous shift arm out is the difficult part, putting in the new shift arm in is a lot easier. If I where you I'll jack the car up and take out the plastic panel and check out the assembly for myself. You'll get an idea of how much room you have under the car and how the shift arm is held in place. If you decide to do this or buy the kit and do it yourself send me a PM and I'll help you out/give you a couple of pointers/tips so you know what to look for. Another forum member, dtp3347, gave me some pointers and what to look for and this helped me out immensely.

If you are unable to do it after trying it out have an independent shop do it.

Good luck!
Thanks for the info,

I was just quoted $200 to install this kit including the Shift Arm (BMW CPO Tech doing some side-jobs). I usually do everything myself but don't want this to be an excuse to void my CPO warranty. Since it will be done by the CPO technician - I should not have to worry about any warranty issues. Right?
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2010, 04:13 PM   #147
Castel
Captain
Castel's Avatar
United_States
71
Rep
801
Posts

Drives: Tanzanite Blue '13 E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portland, OR

iTrader: (6)

Well, there isn't really much room for error, meaning that once the part snaps in place it's in place and things won't break down, it's just a link. I did it myself and I have warranty... It's also a BMW OEM part, different than installing the UUC shift kit or any other aftermarket brand. Visually it's also not easy to see that the parts are different (standard vs. SSK) unless it's disassembled and placed side to side. They look the same.

If you are having a CPO technician doing it on the side you might as well do it yourself, if he does it you won't have proof that it was done "officially" by BMW which is what you wanted in the first place with the CPO tech, right?
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2010, 04:25 PM   #148
LKNGOOD
Private
LKNGOOD's Avatar
4
Rep
91
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i w/6sp manual.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wylie, TX

iTrader: (2)

Well, there isn't really much room for error, meaning that once the part snaps in place it's in place and things won't break down, it's just a link. I did it myself and I have warranty... It's also a BMW OEM part, different than installing the UUC shift kit or any other aftermarket brand. Visually it's also not easy to see that the parts are different (standard vs. SSK) unless it's disassembled and placed side to side. They look the same.

If you are having a CPO technician doing it on the side you might as well do it yourself, if he does it you won't have proof that it was done "officially" by BMW which is what you wanted in the first place with the CPO tech, right?[/

I think it's time to role up my sleeves and take care of this mod myself

Last edited by LKNGOOD; 03-09-2010 at 09:26 PM..
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2010, 09:25 PM   #149
LKNGOOD
Private
LKNGOOD's Avatar
4
Rep
91
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i w/6sp manual.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wylie, TX

iTrader: (2)

Well, there isn't really much room for error, meaning that once the part snaps in place it's in place and things won't break down, it's just a link. I did it myself and I have warranty... It's also a BMW OEM part, different than installing the UUC shift kit or any other aftermarket brand. Visually it's also not easy to see that the parts are different (standard vs. SSK) unless it's disassembled and placed side to side. They look the same.

If you are having a CPO technician doing it on the side you might as well do it yourself, if he does it you won't have proof that it was done "officially" by BMW which is what you wanted in the first place with the CPO tech, right?[/

True - but when I bring it in for service and if there ever was an issue - I can just say - There's the CPO Tech that installed it. Good thing I have everything documented in email and text saved for future reference.

For $200 labor I just might have him take care of it. As an added bonus, My the Sales Guy will probably fill my tank for free ($50 right there) and I can spend the 2hrs test driving some cars while I wait.
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2010, 11:31 PM   #150
Castel
Captain
Castel's Avatar
United_States
71
Rep
801
Posts

Drives: Tanzanite Blue '13 E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portland, OR

iTrader: (6)

^^^ If you have the $200 and save $50 in gas then that definitely sounds like the best option. Good luck and let us know how you like it!
Appreciate 0
      03-20-2010, 05:34 PM   #151
LKNGOOD
Private
LKNGOOD's Avatar
4
Rep
91
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i w/6sp manual.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wylie, TX

iTrader: (2)

Well - I did it. Actually the CPO Tech at BMW did it. Got my BMW SSK installed. At first I didn't like how it leans to the right when in neutral. I thought it only leans a little but this thing is about 1" to the right (Where 3rd gear would be but in the center).

So far so good - I love the short throws - will just have to get use to how neutral sits. One thing that I notice. Going from 6th to 4th is now even easier.

Will drive it for a few days and report back. (I had the whole kit installed including the Shifting Arm for the 335i)
Appreciate 0
      03-20-2010, 06:42 PM   #152
Castel
Captain
Castel's Avatar
United_States
71
Rep
801
Posts

Drives: Tanzanite Blue '13 E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portland, OR

iTrader: (6)

That's exactly why I like to work on my car myself if possible. Your mechanic installed the shift lever incorrectly, mine is completely centered in the middle for neutral. You need to go back and tell him to turn around 180 the shift lever. This one is easy and if you want you can do it on your own. Good luck!
Appreciate 0
      03-20-2010, 10:03 PM   #153
LKNGOOD
Private
LKNGOOD's Avatar
4
Rep
91
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i w/6sp manual.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wylie, TX

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Castel View Post
That's exactly why I like to work on my car myself if possible. Your mechanic installed the shift lever incorrectly, mine is completely centered in the middle for neutral. You need to go back and tell him to turn around 180 the shift lever. This one is easy and if you want you can do it on your own. Good luck!
Hey Castel - are you 100% SURE?

Look at page 5 - Comment #103 by Tritton and comment on #101. My setup is exactly like his.

I really appreciate any help.

"Is this the way it's suppose to be? 1st is now where thrid use to be and 2nd is where 4th use to be."

Is this correct? or did they install it backwards?

Here's how mine sits:

Neutral = Where 3rd gear use to be in the center

1st gear = Where Neutral use to be but up front

2nd gear = Where Neutral use to be but down bottom

3rd gear = Where 5th gear use to be

4th gear = Where 6th gear use to be

5th gear = All the way to the right up front

6th gear = All the way to the right down bottom

Last edited by LKNGOOD; 03-20-2010 at 11:03 PM..
Appreciate 0
      03-21-2010, 08:52 AM   #154
LKNGOOD
Private
LKNGOOD's Avatar
4
Rep
91
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i w/6sp manual.
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wylie, TX

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Castel View Post
That's exactly why I like to work on my car myself if possible. Your mechanic installed the shift lever incorrectly, mine is completely centered in the middle for neutral. You need to go back and tell him to turn around 180 the shift lever. This one is easy and if you want you can do it on your own. Good luck!

Ok - I just took off the boot and mine is also completely centered in the middle for neutral - vertically (Up and Down). That never was an issue.

My question is that now neutral sits dead in the middle -vertically (Up and Down) but horizontally it's about an inch or so to the right.

I know the new lever does not have that bent on it compared to the stock lever which is what makes it sit center horizontally (left to right).


This is how it look stock in neutral (X is the lever position in neutral)

Dead center both vertically and horizontally:

PLEASE IGNORE THE DOTS (.....) I had to put those in there to make everything center??

.....l
.....l
----X----
.....l
.....l

1st - 6th gear with stock lever:

..1..3..5
.....l
----X----
.....l
..2..4..6

** This is how it now looks with the BMW SSK installed (X is the lever position in neutral)

Dead center vertically but to the right horizontally:

......l
......l
-------X-------
......l
......l

So in first gear it looks like this:

......l
.....1st
......l
-------X-------
......l
......l

So in 2nd gear it looks like this:

......l
......l
......l
-------X-------
......l
.....2nd
......l

So in 3rd gear it looks like this:

......l..3rd
......l
-------X-------
......l
......l

So in 4th gear it looks like this:

......l
......l
-------X-------
......l
......l..4th

So in 5th gear it looks like this:

......l.......5th
......l
-------X-------
......l
......l

So in 6th gear it looks like this:

......l
......l
-------X-------
......l
......l.......6th

Hope the drawing helps (Remember - just ignore the ... I had to put those in there to make everything align correctly) - From the replys that I got on this forum and other forums - I'm fine - it's suppose to be that way because we no longer have the bend on the new shifting lever.

* Castel - you said your lever is completely center when in neutral. That's vertically (Up and Down) - but how is it horizontally? Is it still the same as stock or is it about 1-2" to the right?

Thanks everyone for their help - please keep the reply coming - this will not only benefit me but anyone else that wants to do this mod.

Thanks,
Mike

Last edited by LKNGOOD; 03-21-2010 at 03:24 PM..
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:50 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST