(ISSUE RESOLVED) Just got Scammed

E90bedi · 01-24-2013, 11:59 AM

I bought what he claimed to be a BMW PERFORMANCE EXHAUST. We face timed and and i saw the chrome tips and i agreed to the transaction. I paid through Paypal and he shipped right away using ups, tracking number etc. after i got it, i went to get it installed. After installing it we started up the car. I didn't hear a difference at all. Keeping in mind that he only gave me the muffler i realized that i needed a y-pipe to complete the BMW performance exhaust. So i went ahead and deleted the resonator and got the y-pipe installed. After all this money and time spent i still didn't hear what i should be. So after all this the muffler ended up being a stock muffler but he welded on chrome tips. I am not to experienced in exhausts and did not know to look for the plate that is supposed to be welded on. I tried to contact incantana through text again. he did reply the first few times but he would not stop claiming that he indeed sold me a bmw performance exhaust. I asked him to refund me my money, and he could subtract the cost of shipping. Now he doesn't reply and says that I am threatening him. I just wanted to warn fellow forum members for the future.

The one with chrome tips are the one he sold me and the one without is the stock muffler. again he claims the one with chrome tips is a performance muffler.

EDIT: Incantana did refund me the money and is a man of his word. Please do not think twice when dealing with him in the future. Thank you. and thank you Incantana again

E90bedi · 01-24-2013, 12:16 PM

bump

E90bedi · 01-24-2013, 12:16 PM

this is a picture of a real one from mod bargains

Route 16 · 01-24-2013, 12:21 PM

That sucks, there should be a stamp on the bottom, my eisenmann has a stamp.

idrift4wd · 01-24-2013, 12:23 PM

paypal? dispute it!!!!!

apme123 · 01-24-2013, 12:39 PM

look for a part number , they do look kind of the same

project335i · 01-24-2013, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by idrift4wd

paypal? dispute it!!!!!

Agree I would go this route. If he lived relatively close here I would kick his ass for you dude

JS82 · 01-24-2013, 12:45 PM

How did you pay for this crappy muffler?
Credit card or Paypal?
File a dispute and get your money back!

arctic330i · 01-24-2013, 12:48 PM

Thats a shame, we PM'd back and forth a while ago about an interior project we were both doing. He seemed like a nice guy!

Bladerunner · 01-24-2013, 12:53 PM

Yup, I would contact Paypal. It should also have a stamp/plate on it from BMW marking it as Performance Exhaust.

Bimmeration · 01-24-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by apme123

look for a part number , they do look kind of the same

+1

JS82 · 01-24-2013, 01:00 PM

Picture #1 clearly is not a Performance Exhaust.
I have the PE system installed on my car and the tips are equal in length (in the picture the outer tip is twice as long as the inner tip).
There should also be a plate welded onto the muffler that says "BMW Performance" along with part numbers, production date etc.

Dark_Knight_335 · 01-24-2013, 01:02 PM

Yep. I ensured both of my customers saw that metal stamped plate on the bottom of the muffler. I find these transactions are best done in person- seeing too many horror stories...

duky · 01-24-2013, 01:07 PM

Oh man that sucks. I had a transaction with him for an interior part which went smoothly but we did it in person and he seemed like a fine guy. Hopefully things get sorted out but if not at least you have PayPal to fall back on -- they tend to side with the buyer as long as they listed you as protected.

e90Nate · 01-24-2013, 01:07 PM

^^I agree, so many people getting scammed lately

Karbon · 01-24-2013, 01:09 PM

Sorry man, that sucks

Hope you get your money back!

Hisam135i · 01-24-2013, 01:12 PM

How much did you pay?

techwhiz · 01-24-2013, 01:15 PM

Item not what is should be. Dispute. Hopefully you did not send as a "Gift". You cannot dispute a "Gift". Don't ever buy anything of value and say "Gift".

e92oholic · 01-24-2013, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigNate

^^I agree, so many people getting scammed lately

Sure seems like it... Never gift money!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hisam135i

How much did you pay?

+1

Edit post 17
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=776324

E90bedi · 01-24-2013, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmeration

+1

i did look for a part number but nothing. its just the stock one.

E90bedi · 01-24-2013, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techwhiz

Item not what is should be. Dispute. Hopefully you did not send as a "Gift". You cannot dispute a "Gift". Don't ever buy anything of value and say "Gift".

this was my biggest mistake. he requested to do it as a gift.

E90bedi · 01-24-2013, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hisam135i

How much did you pay?

almost $400. for some people its not that much but im just a college kid. on a budget so for me its a lot.

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E90bedi Lieutenant 45 Rep 445 Posts Drives: 2016 F82 M4 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Nj iTrader: (3)	(ISSUE RESOLVED) Just got Scammed I bought what he claimed to be a BMW PERFORMANCE EXHAUST. We face timed and and i saw the chrome tips and i agreed to the transaction. I paid through Paypal and he shipped right away using ups, tracking number etc. after i got it, i went to get it installed. After installing it we started up the car. I didn't hear a difference at all. Keeping in mind that he only gave me the muffler i realized that i needed a y-pipe to complete the BMW performance exhaust. So i went ahead and deleted the resonator and got the y-pipe installed. After all this money and time spent i still didn't hear what i should be. So after all this the muffler ended up being a stock muffler but he welded on chrome tips. I am not to experienced in exhausts and did not know to look for the plate that is supposed to be welded on. I tried to contact incantana through text again. he did reply the first few times but he would not stop claiming that he indeed sold me a bmw performance exhaust. I asked him to refund me my money, and he could subtract the cost of shipping. Now he doesn't reply and says that I am threatening him. I just wanted to warn fellow forum members for the future. The one with chrome tips are the one he sold me and the one without is the stock muffler. again he claims the one with chrome tips is a performance muffler. EDIT: Incantana did refund me the money and is a man of his word. Please do not think twice when dealing with him in the future. Thank you. and thank you Incantana again Attached Images Last edited by E90bedi; 01-25-2013 at 05:25 PM..
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