[E90Fleet]

25.02.00 is also comming slighly after that

But it doesnt include anything new for the E9x

[SpiralOut]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

25.02.00 is also comming slighly after that

But it doesnt include anything new for the E9x

I was wondering something and maybe this post answers my question.... are the updates compatible on all BMW models or do they release a separate update for each model?

[335I talian Stallion NJ]

Originally Posted by gotcha351c

Mine just came back from the service center today. They updated it to 25.1.1. Eveything works great so far.

25.1.1 is out already? I thought not until next week??

[uhaulball]

suscribed!

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by jetjock25

Just talked to my SA and was informed about two weeks before the new version will be available... he also said if there are any mods on the car like the Procede to take it out since they will be getting into your ECU... not sure why they need to get in there but i'll take his advice.

Huh? My car was updated to 25.00.02, but they didn't go near the ECU. Like many ppl, I'm waiting for a fix for my broken RTTI. Why would they need to mess with the ECU for another simple s/w download? I don't think that's correct. Perhaps JSpira can explain.

btw -- PM me your dealer and SA's name.

[bigcracker22]

calling in tomorrow to get this fix asap! cant wait to get VR back! i use it mainly for making phone calls.

[335I talian Stallion NJ]

Anyone have the SIB # for this new update??

[JSpira]

Originally Posted by 335I talian Stallion NJ

Anyone have the SIB # for this new update??

I'd like to see the SIB please if possible.

[bartman32]

so 25.01.00 is really out already? Maybe I can tell my stealer I didn't see the pop up when I did the ED? Of course I didn't even have a Nav disk...

[cdp1276]

Originally Posted by bartman32

so 25.01.00 is really out already? Maybe I can tell my stealer I didn't see the pop up when I did the ED? Of course I didn't even have a Nav disk...

Mine told me they had the download instructions yesterday so yes it appears to be out already...

[AryoBarzan]

Will this new version of progman also give you the 'silver' skin?

[SteveMD]

Originally Posted by AryoBarzan

Will this new version of progman also give you the 'silver' skin?

It should. That debuted in 25.00.00

[jfulcher]

So if my car is on a boat right now will they update this software at the VPC?

[bartman32]

Originally Posted by jfulcher

So if my car is on a boat right now will they update this software at the VPC?

From what I hear not unless there is a reason to. However if your car is on the boat right now there is probably a good chance that you either don't have the arrow pop up or a working VR or RTTI so it shouldn't be too difficult to convince the dealer that you need it when you pick it up. Another day or so at the dealer... Frusturating isn't it.

[SteveMD]

I just bumped into my service guy in the deli.

Fleet, JSpira...any rumblings about 26.00.00 being imminent?

[MusicMan]

Originally Posted by JSpira

I'd like to see the SIB please if possible.

I would also like to see the SIB, I would feel more comfortable with the SIB in hand when I returned to the dealer for VR fix. Someone must have the SIB by now.

[user1]

Anyone know if the latest update fixes the RTTI problem?

Is the latest update 25.01.00 or 25.01.01 or 25.02.00? Seeing the SIB would help since it lists the version and what it fixes.

Steve, rumor has it 26.00.00 breaks the flux capacitor on 335s built after March.

[cobradac]

I thought I already posted, but may have been the E60/E63 version on another board.

SI B 61 03 05
General Electrical Systems April 2007
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B61 03 05 dated March 2007.

(New) designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
Software Errors Corrected with Progman

MODEL
E90, E91, E92, E93 (3 Series)

Vehicles produced up to March 30, 2007

SITUATION
Customer may complain of the following:

(New) The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.01.00 (Target data Status E89x-07-03-520). Only software errors that are corrected with the last 2 Progman versions will be listed.

CCC (Car Communication Computer) equipped vehicle, the SDARS (Satellite Radio) stored station list is intermittently empty since programming with Progman V25.00.00.

Poor RTTI (Real Time Traffic Information) reception. The CID (Central Information Display) is constantly displaying "Transferring Messages" since programming with Progman V25.00.00.

After vehicle programming PDC (Park Distance Control) FC 9e28 is stored. Carry out a power cycle (ignition Off/On) and clear the fault memory.

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.00.00 (Target data Status E89x-07-03-515).

If there is an incoming telephone call while SVS (Voice Input System) is active it is not possible to accept or reject the call.

A loud humming noise can be heard from the auxiliary fan when the vehicle is idling.

The automatic transmission enters "Failsafe" mode during a 5-4 downshift. EGS fault "AF8D – ratio monitoring 5-4 gearshift plausibility" is stored.

CCC: The programmable diamond MFL button does not work when set to "Next entertainment source" when vehicle is in motion.

CCC: The customer occasionally has poor radio reception after the vehicle was programmed with Progman V23.x or V24.x.

The speedometer and tachometer needles shake when the vehicle is idling.

CCC: Slow response to inputs made when using controller after startup.

CCC: A high frequency whistling noise intermittently can been heard in radio mode

CCC: Navigation system pop-up arrow display missing. Refer to SI B84 61 06.

CCC: CD/CDC track advances after key cycled. Refer to SI B65 32 05.

SDARS (Satellite radio) receiver fault "A537 – Sat aerial short circuit" is stored.

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 24.00.00 (Target data Status E89x-06-12-510).

PDC (Park Distance Control) stops working if the vehicle stops running when reverse gear is selected and then the vehicle is restarted.

The headlight leveling system (LWR) is not working. Fault code "9CB6 LWR coil break" is stored in the FRM (Footwell Module). Coding of the FRM is necessary.

CCC (Car Communication Computer): The "dynamic route" SVS (Voice Recognition System) option is missing on vehicles with RTTI (Real Time Traffic Information).

There is no check control message when one of the tail light bulbs is defective. Coding of the FRM is necessary.

PROCEDURE
For all vehicles, on a customer complaint basis only, refer to the following procedure and warranty information.

Update the complete vehicle per SI B09 05 01 (Coding, Individualization, Programming) Procedure B, using Progman 25.01.00 (Target Data Status E89x-07-03- 520) or higher.

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

[cobradac]

BTW on a somewhat sad note: My tech upgraded me to v24.00.04 2 days ago accidently (from 21.01). This dealer has taken to keeping the last good working version handy until they are assured they have a good new version (25.01 in this case). Well he accidently set me up on v24, so did not get the desired fixes.

SA will swing by my house to pick up my car and drop off loaner so they can "get it right" next week

[magmd]

awesome! I am now armed with the info needed! Thanks!

[MusicMan]

Originally Posted by cobradac

I thought I already posted, but may have been the E60/E63 version on another board.

SI B 61 03 05
General Electrical Systems April 2007
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B61 03 05 dated March 2007.

(New) designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
Software Errors Corrected with Progman

MODEL
E90, E91, E92, E93 (3 Series)

Vehicles produced up to March 30, 2007

SITUATION
Customer may complain of the following:

(New) The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.01.00 (Target data Status E89x-07-03-520). Only software errors that are corrected with the last 2 Progman versions will be listed.

CCC (Car Communication Computer) equipped vehicle, the SDARS (Satellite Radio) stored station list is intermittently empty since programming with Progman V25.00.00.

Poor RTTI (Real Time Traffic Information) reception. The CID (Central Information Display) is constantly displaying "Transferring Messages" since programming with Progman V25.00.00.

After vehicle programming PDC (Park Distance Control) FC 9e28 is stored. Carry out a power cycle (ignition Off/On) and clear the fault memory.

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.00.00 (Target data Status E89x-07-03-515).

If there is an incoming telephone call while SVS (Voice Input System) is active it is not possible to accept or reject the call.

A loud humming noise can be heard from the auxiliary fan when the vehicle is idling.

The automatic transmission enters "Failsafe" mode during a 5-4 downshift. EGS fault "AF8D – ratio monitoring 5-4 gearshift plausibility" is stored.

CCC: The programmable diamond MFL button does not work when set to "Next entertainment source" when vehicle is in motion.

CCC: The customer occasionally has poor radio reception after the vehicle was programmed with Progman V23.x or V24.x.

The speedometer and tachometer needles shake when the vehicle is idling.

CCC: Slow response to inputs made when using controller after startup.

CCC: A high frequency whistling noise intermittently can been heard in radio mode

CCC: Navigation system pop-up arrow display missing. Refer to SI B84 61 06.

CCC: CD/CDC track advances after key cycled. Refer to SI B65 32 05.

SDARS (Satellite radio) receiver fault "A537 – Sat aerial short circuit" is stored.

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 24.00.00 (Target data Status E89x-06-12-510).

PDC (Park Distance Control) stops working if the vehicle stops running when reverse gear is selected and then the vehicle is restarted.

The headlight leveling system (LWR) is not working. Fault code "9CB6 LWR coil break" is stored in the FRM (Footwell Module). Coding of the FRM is necessary.

CCC (Car Communication Computer): The "dynamic route" SVS (Voice Recognition System) option is missing on vehicles with RTTI (Real Time Traffic Information).

There is no check control message when one of the tail light bulbs is defective. Coding of the FRM is necessary.

PROCEDURE
For all vehicles, on a customer complaint basis only, refer to the following procedure and warranty information.

Update the complete vehicle per SI B09 05 01 (Coding, Individualization, Programming) Procedure B, using Progman 25.01.00 (Target Data Status E89x-07-03- 520) or higher.

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

Don't see a VR fix listed on this SIB. Did I miss it?

[JSpira]

Originally Posted by cobradac

BTW on a somewhat sad note: My tech upgraded me to v24.00.04 2 days ago accidently (from 21.01). This dealer has taken to keeping the last good working version handy until they are assured they have a good new version (25.01 in this case). Well he accidently set me up on v24, so did not get the desired fixes.

Ironic, isn't it.

I got 25.00.04 this week. The assistant service manager had instructions to test voice command before returning the car. So the phone call I got was, do you want to keep the loaner or should we return the car and take it back next week? I elected to get my own car back (loaner was a 328xi which just didn't seem to handle very well, unlike a 328xi loaner I had from them a few months ago). My car goes back on Wednesday.

I wonder what Progman version we'll see and what changes it will have when my 550i is built in mid September.

Originally Posted by cobradac

SA will swing by my house to pick up my car and drop off loaner so they can "get it right" next week

They don't always do that?