[Centurion]

My friend recently scratched his 08 BMW 3 series front bumper. The damage isn't too severe (though it is visible) and he's wondering if he should have it repainted. This made me raise the point of the orange peel paint. Can the body shop replicate the typical BMW orange peel effect or is that something that they can only do in the factory? Will the respray be noticeable that way?

[mg4734]

Orange peel is generally considered undesirable, so I would hope the respray would have minimal orange peel. That said, if there is a bunch of orange peel on the rest of the paintwork, it will be noticeable if there isn't as much on the bumper. I'd say that's a pretty minor concern though

[Centurion]

Originally Posted by mg4734

Orange peel is generally considered undesirable, so I would hope the respray would have minimal orange peel. That said, if there is a bunch of orange peel on the rest of the paintwork, it will be noticeable if there isn't as much on the bumper. I'd say that's a pretty minor concern though

Well, maybe I'm a little OCD. I thought it would look weird if the paint was orangy on all surfaces except the bumper. He didn't think of that originally (though he does have concerns about matching the color of the 7 year old paint) but I brought it up.

[jin]

Orange peel paint is a defect. Ask the body shop to use clogged nozzles when spraying if it appeals to you.

[Blindside_137]

A good body shop will make as close of a match as possible so that it looks factory.

Don't worry about things like orange peel.

[Chrisruf911]

Originally Posted by jin

Orange peel paint is a defect. Ask the body shop to use clogged nozzles when spraying if it appeals to you.

clogged nozzles? Orange peel is caused by many factors. Temperature, air pressure, paint viscosity etc. Orange peel is present in all paint jobs unless you sand and buff it flat. I have not used or not have seen a product that is completely void of orange peel. It does have some value though. Typically a little bit of orange peel in paint helps to deflect rocks and road debris. Paint with orange peel will resist rock chips better than a super slick job provided both jobs used the same materials and had adequate prep work.

[jin]

Originally Posted by Chrisruf911

clogged nozzles? Orange peel is caused by many factors. Temperature, air pressure, paint viscosity etc. Orange peel is present in all paint jobs unless you sand and buff it flat. I have not used or not have seen a product that is completely void of orange peel. It does have some value though. Typically a little bit of orange peel in paint helps to deflect rocks and road debris. Paint with orange peel will resist rock chips better than a super slick job provided both jobs used the same materials and had adequate prep work.

Well OP wants orange peel effect im pretty sure a clogged nozzle would be effective. Who cares what caused it. Have a look at dupli-colour i have had great success in making clean paint finishes. And orange peel deflects rock chips and debris? Surely you jest?

[JustinGTP]

Originally Posted by Chrisruf911

Typically a little bit of orange peel in paint helps to deflect rocks and road debris. Paint with orange peel will resist rock chips better than a super slick job provided both jobs used the same materials and had adequate prep work.

[kiel_dafo_kenyg_as]

The term orange peel here seem to lead to some misunderstanding. What centurion talks about is the grainy surface that can be seen only at certain angles, especially on black cars. BMW of course could spray mirrorlike paintwork like shellac but that's not what is desired because the grainy structure camouflages better raised edges and small dings and dongs that are in the body sheet

[Centurion]

Originally Posted by whiteblue

The term orange peel here seem to lead to some misunderstanding. What centurion talks about is the grainy surface that can be seen only at certain angles, especially on black cars. BMW of course could spray mirrorlike paintwork like shellac but that's not what is desired because the grainy structure camouflages better raised edges and small dings and dongs that are in the body sheet

Ah yes, that's what I meant. I couldn't find a better word for it, though I do think the term Orange peel (Orangenhaut) is used for this phenomenon normally. Basically I meant the grainy surface of the top layer of the paint. Apparently many cars that were resprayed lose this visual feature - be it a good thing or bad.

[andysat]

Asked for my z4 wing to be orange peeled couple of years ago like the rest of the car-bodyshop matched it perfectly.

[Jnat]

I don't think i've ever heard of a request for orange peel but i understand your thought, you want it to match. It's just a funny articulation.

[NYBulldog]

When I had my M3 rear end painted the shop did the orange peel effect. I thought it was crazy. My buddys M3 was with me on pick up and he had it too. Found it so bizarre and now I realize its always a part of it.

[Chrisruf911]

Originally Posted by JustinGTP

yeah guy I'm in the business and I speak from experience. Factory style peel does have an advantage. Now obviously if it looks like plastidip, it's gonna look like shit.

[Chrisruf911]

Originally Posted by jin

Well OP wants orange peel effect im pretty sure a clogged nozzle would be effective. Who cares what caused it. Have a look at dupli-colour i have had great success in making clean paint finishes. And orange peel deflects rock chips and debris? Surely you jest?

20 years in the business tells me so. Get a nice show car finish, sand that bitch with 1500 up to 3000. Buff it flat as hell. It will look great. It will not deflect chips and road debris like a factory style job. Btw I use duplicolor for spraying trim pieces. I use real paint such as Spies Hecker for body parts.

[jin]

Originally Posted by whiteblue

The term orange peel here seem to lead to some misunderstanding. What centurion talks about is the grainy surface that can be seen only at certain angles, especially on black cars. BMW of course could spray mirrorlike paintwork like shellac but that's not what is desired because the grainy structure camouflages better raised edges and small dings and dongs that are in the body sheet

Orange peel deflects road debris and now its intentional from BMW? This gets better and better

[Chrisruf911]

Originally Posted by jin

Orange peel deflects road debris and now its intentional from BMW? This gets better and better

Dude your comments hold no water in this conversation since you think Dupli Color is a real automotive finish.