[austinla335d]

Long time no see everybody!

I'm getting carbon cleaning done because of the rave reviews of those who have done it, such as smoother power, greater power, and 5-10mpg increase. I;ve been averaging all the way down in the 30-31mpg range in average highway driving where two years ago I got 40mpg when I tried.

For ~$750, you get the full carbon cleaning along with fresh OEM gaskets and O-rings. We're talking "full" as in the following:
Diesel Intake Carbon Cleaning LABOR $450.00
11 12 7 796 378 Valve cover gasket 1 $49.76 $49.76
11 61 2 245 439 Gasket, EGR valve to intake 1 $3.40 $3.40
11 61 2 246 945 Gasket, Intake 6 $5.78 $34.68
11 61 7 790 198 Gasket, intake 6 $7.81 $46.86
13 51 2 248 189 Washer, fuel return line 2 $4.81 $9.62
13 53 2 247 156 Washer, injector 6 $7.28 $43.68
13 53 7 787 236 O-ring, injector 6 $7.16 $42.96
13 53 7 794 553 O-ring, leakage lines 6 $9.95 $59.70
13 54 7 792 098 O-ring, throttle to EGR valve 1 $4.52 $4.52
13 62 7 792 261 Grommet, pressure sensor 1 $8.42 $8.42
13 62 7 796 699 O-ring, camshaft position sensor 1 $3.06 $3.06
TOTAL $757

Location: Offset Motorwerks in Glendora, CA, about 15 miles east of downtown LA near the San Gabriel Mountains. They are a forum sponsor and have performed absolutely every install, service and/or upgrade along with sourcing the parts faster and at regular prices that are better than my best vendor-coupon-code-holiday-sale prices.

I'm putting a feeler out to see if we might be able to get a "group buy" kind of thing going. If several of us pre-paid a portion or in full for carbon cleaning they would be able to have chemical bathed valve covers and intakes manifolds ready and complete the work in a day, allowing for a better price. $750 is already the best price I've seen anywhere for the full service and OEM parts, but why not see if we can get it done cheaper?


Anyone interested? Timelines wouldn't matter that much as it's not the sort of thing we all have to show up the same day for... Please let me know if interested or call Offset yourself and ask for Mitchell if interested.

Can't wait for MPG glory and a fresh 1/4 mile time after this!!!

[BB_cuda]

Austinla,
Welcome back. This sounds like a great deal. I appreciate the parts listing too. I wish i lived closer. I live way too far to drive from Houston to LA to get in on this. I recall a different guy trying to attract business to Florida but that is very far as well.

I have an extra intake that i plan to have cleaned. Maybe i can mail it in but i wouldn't get any ports of head cleaning. My thought was to have the intake ready to go and switch out my original one with so that I'm only down a day or two. I will call them to price loose intake only cleaning where i have already removed the swirl flaps and other loose items. I've heard that having something ultrasonically cleaned isn't a big deal. Its more generic thing a machine shop can have done for them.

[Hoooper]

Originally Posted by austinla335d

Long time no see everybody!

I'm getting carbon cleaning done because of the rave reviews of those who have done it, such as smoother power, greater power, and 5-10mpg increase. I;ve been averaging all the way down in the 30-31mpg range in average highway driving where two years ago I got 40mpg when I tried.

For ~$750, you get the full carbon cleaning along with fresh OEM gaskets and O-rings. We're talking "full" as in the following:
Diesel Intake Carbon Cleaning LABOR $450.00
11 12 7 796 378 Valve cover gasket 1 $49.76 $49.76
11 61 2 245 439 Gasket, EGR valve to intake 1 $3.40 $3.40
11 61 2 246 945 Gasket, Intake 6 $5.78 $34.68
11 61 7 790 198 Gasket, intake 6 $7.81 $46.86
13 51 2 248 189 Washer, fuel return line 2 $4.81 $9.62
13 53 2 247 156 Washer, injector 6 $7.28 $43.68
13 53 7 787 236 O-ring, injector 6 $7.16 $42.96
13 53 7 794 553 O-ring, leakage lines 6 $9.95 $59.70
13 54 7 792 098 O-ring, throttle to EGR valve 1 $4.52 $4.52
13 62 7 792 261 Grommet, pressure sensor 1 $8.42 $8.42
13 62 7 796 699 O-ring, camshaft position sensor 1 $3.06 $3.06
TOTAL $757

Location: Offset Motorwerks in Glendora, CA, about 15 miles east of downtown LA near the San Gabriel Mountains. They are a forum sponsor and have performed absolutely every install, service and/or upgrade along with sourcing the parts faster and at regular prices that are better than my best vendor-coupon-code-holiday-sale prices.

I'm putting a feeler out to see if we might be able to get a "group buy" kind of thing going. If several of us pre-paid a portion or in full for carbon cleaning they would be able to have chemical bathed valve covers and intakes manifolds ready and complete the work in a day, allowing for a better price. $750 is already the best price I've seen anywhere for the full service and OEM parts, but why not see if we can get it done cheaper?


Anyone interested? Timelines wouldn't matter that much as it's not the sort of thing we all have to show up the same day for... Please let me know if interested or call Offset yourself and ask for Mitchell if interested.

Can't wait for MPG glory and a fresh 1/4 mile time after this!!!

Thats a great price! I would be interested, but I would have to take a look and see if mine still needs anything or not. Did they say anything about working through the injector issues that come up afterwards?

[command_liner]

Originally Posted by austinla335d

Long time no see everybody!

I'm getting carbon cleaning done because of the rave reviews of those who have done it, such as smoother power, greater power, and 5-10mpg increase. I;ve been averaging all the way down in the 30-31mpg range in average highway driving where two years ago I got 40mpg when I tried.

For ~$750, you get the full carbon cleaning along with fresh OEM gaskets and O-rings. We're talking "full" as in the following:
Diesel Intake Carbon Cleaning LABOR $450.00
11 12 7 796 378 Valve cover gasket 1 $49.76 $49.76
11 61 2 245 439 Gasket, EGR valve to intake 1 $3.40 $3.40
11 61 2 246 945 Gasket, Intake 6 $5.78 $34.68
11 61 7 790 198 Gasket, intake 6 $7.81 $46.86
13 51 2 248 189 Washer, fuel return line 2 $4.81 $9.62
13 53 2 247 156 Washer, injector 6 $7.28 $43.68
13 53 7 787 236 O-ring, injector 6 $7.16 $42.96
13 53 7 794 553 O-ring, leakage lines 6 $9.95 $59.70
13 54 7 792 098 O-ring, throttle to EGR valve 1 $4.52 $4.52
13 62 7 792 261 Grommet, pressure sensor 1 $8.42 $8.42
13 62 7 796 699 O-ring, camshaft position sensor 1 $3.06 $3.06
TOTAL $757

Location: Offset Motorwerks in Glendora, CA, about 15 miles east of downtown LA near the San Gabriel Mountains. They are a forum sponsor and have performed absolutely every install, service and/or upgrade along with sourcing the parts faster and at regular prices that are better than my best vendor-coupon-code-holiday-sale prices.

I'm putting a feeler out to see if we might be able to get a "group buy" kind of thing going. If several of us pre-paid a portion or in full for carbon cleaning they would be able to have chemical bathed valve covers and intakes manifolds ready and complete the work in a day, allowing for a better price. $750 is already the best price I've seen anywhere for the full service and OEM parts, but why not see if we can get it done cheaper?


Anyone interested? Timelines wouldn't matter that much as it's not the sort of thing we all have to show up the same day for... Please let me know if interested or call Offset yourself and ask for Mitchell if interested.

Can't wait for MPG glory and a fresh 1/4 mile time after this!!!

This is good, but can be a bit better. If you use the endoscope method of checking the valve positions, you do not need the new set of gaskets for the valve cover and the labor associated with removal and replacement of all that stuff surrounding the valve cover. That should drop $100+ for the parts and at least that much on the labor.

[austinla335d]

Originally Posted by command_liner

This is good, but can be a bit better. If you use the endoscope method of checking the valve positions, you do not need the new set of gaskets for the valve cover and the labor associated with removal and replacement of all that stuff surrounding the valve cover. That should drop $100+ for the parts and at least that much on the labor.

The valve cover gets cleaned as well.

[austinla335d]

Originally Posted by Hoooper

Thats a great price! I would be interested, but I would have to take a look and see if mine still needs anything or not. Did they say anything about working through the injector issues that come up afterwards?

They've done just "five or so" diesels but he didn't mention the injector issue.

If something came up caused by them they would take care of it. I had a TPMS issue that they took care of after they did suspension and wheels/tires.

Also came back complaining of alignment issues that were very particular (steering wheel wasn't perfectly straight while driving straight). They do stand by their work but the injector issue, not sure.

[AzureHaze]

I wish this thread started sooner. Already got mine done with them last week.

[Hoooper]

Originally Posted by austinla335d

They've done just "five or so" diesels but he didn't mention the injector issue.

If something came up caused by them they would take care of it. I had a TPMS issue that they took care of after they did suspension and wheels/tires.

Also came back complaining of alignment issues that were very particular (steering wheel wasn't perfectly straight while driving straight). They do stand by their work but the injector issue, not sure.

Yeah, the injector issue wouldnt really be caused by them. It seems if you get the work done preemptively you might be ok, but as we know there are a bunch of owners out there who have been in for CBU induced failures and come out the back end with an in depth injector programming. Im just curious for others really, I dont need any cleaning unless something has changed in the pas several thousand EGR blocked miles. It would suck to pay $750 for a cleaning, then have to pay another $1000 for the injector diagnosis and work when you could have just paid $1500 to the dealership at the beginning for all of it.

[syrinxstar]

I'd be interested, depending how it all shakes out. I'm in San Diego so I'd definitely be interested in it being a single day commitment.

[austinla335d]

Originally Posted by Hoooper

Yeah, the injector issue wouldnt really be caused by them. It seems if you get the work done preemptively you might be ok, but as we know there are a bunch of owners out there who have been in for CBU induced failures and come out the back end with an in depth injector programming. Im just curious for others really, I dont need any cleaning unless something has changed in the pas several thousand EGR blocked miles. It would suck to pay $750 for a cleaning, then have to pay another $1000 for the injector diagnosis and work when you could have just paid $1500 to the dealership at the beginning for all of it.

Hooper,

I'm drawing a blank on the connection between the injector calibration issues and the CBU CLEANING. Wasn't the calibration required from the effects of cbu and not the cleaning?

Forgive me if I've got my wires crossed.

[forcedair33]

Getting ready to do this job myself. Thanks for the parts list.

[Hoooper]

Originally Posted by austinla335d

Hooper,

I'm drawing a blank on the connection between the injector calibration issues and the CBU CLEANING. Wasn't the calibration required from the effects of cbu and not the cleaning?

Forgive me if I've got my wires crossed.

That seems like a distinction without a difference. Whether the CBU or the cleaning caused it (almost certainly the CBU) doesnt really matter to the person who needs the calibrations done. The need for injector calibration is possible to exist once the cleaning is done, if the shop is not capable of doing that calibration you might as well go to the dealership because it might be cheaper in the end vs. getting the cleaning done at the shop and calibration at the dealer.

[Crawler]

Originally Posted by syrinxstar

I'd be interested, depending how it all shakes out. I'm in San Diego so I'd definitely be interested in it being a single day commitment.

Single day, no way.

J

[Crawler]

Originally Posted by AzureHaze

I wish this thread started sooner. Already got mine done with them last week.

Az,

Did they provide any images to show how well all of the parts were cleaned? This is my main concern with contracting out the entire job vs contract cleaning of specific parts (intake esp.).

J

[AzureHaze]

Originally Posted by Crawler

Az,

Did they provide any images to show how well all of the parts were cleaned? This is my main concern with contracting out the entire job vs contract cleaning of specific parts (intake esp.).

J

Yes, they did take before and after pics. Photo quality wasn't that great but I can't complain.

[austinla335d]

Originally Posted by Hoooper

That seems like a distinction without a difference. Whether the CBU or the cleaning caused it (almost certainly the CBU) doesnt really matter to the person who needs the calibrations done. The need for injector calibration is possible to exist once the cleaning is done, if the shop is not capable of doing that calibration you might as well go to the dealership because it might be cheaper in the end vs. getting the cleaning done at the shop and calibration at the dealer.

The difference is the distinction.
The distinction is which event caused the occurrence. Causality.

If cleaning is not the cause, then calibration after cleaning isn't to be expected or required unless it was needed before. In other words, it's a non-issue if cleaning isn't the cause.

It was a question that I've since figured out.

If this doesn't make sense, I think it's lost in translation.

[NC335d]

What equipment does the indy shop that is performing the CBU cleaning need and are they able to perform the calibration w/o going to the dealer??

[Hoooper]

Originally Posted by austinla335d

The difference is the distinction.
The distinction is which event caused the occurrence. Causality.

If cleaning is not the cause, then calibration after cleaning isn't to be expected or required unless it was needed before. In other words, it's a non-issue if cleaning isn't the cause.

It was a question that I've since figured out.

If this doesn't make sense, I think it's lost in translation.

How is it a non issue? The $750 cleaning might turn into a $1750 cleaning if you end up needing the calibration when it's all done

[austinla335d]

Originally Posted by Hoooper

How is it a non issue? The $750 cleaning might turn into a $1750 cleaning if you end up needing the calibration when it's all done

Lol am I the only one comprehending the causality distinction?

We can just let what's been written speak for itself.



Anyway.

[Hoooper]

Originally Posted by austinla335d

Lol am I the only one comprehending the causality distinction?

We can just let what's been written speak for itself.



Anyway.

Do you think that if someone needs to get the injectors adapted, then gets the cleaning, they will no longer have an injector problem?

[timmmmeh]

Has anyone else had carbon cleaning done by Motorwerks so far? At what mileage should one get it done to be safe?

[Vesrah]

I live in Arizona... and for this price I'd be interested in driving out.