[alexwhittemore]

Originally Posted by elratrero69

How many cables are there for this, my SA showed me a part number of the recall and thats why im not going to get my refund. The part number he showed me was $32. I payed alot more.


I had part numbers 61-14-9-119-447 & 61-12-9-269-907 replaced isnt this the recall?

What milo said, but also keep in mind that SAs aren't NECESSARILY the most knowledgable people about BMWs, though they ought to be. I had an SA who told me that all E90s ever made came stock with bluetooth (which is wildly incorrect), for example. There's always the possibility that yours is simply misinformed and doesn't realize that the old fix was substantially more involved and expensive, and that policy is to refund those repairs.

He could also just be a huge dick. Tread lightly to make sure it's not the former, then let him have it

[Eugeinus]

Just got this done today - dropped off this morning, picked up after lunch. I don't notice any change, so I presume it's precautionary only for me.

[alexwhittemore]

Originally Posted by Eugeinus

Just got this done today - dropped off this morning, picked up after lunch. I don't notice any change, so I presume it's precautionary only for me.

If there was any change to notice, your car would already have either stalled mid-drive, or else caught fire spontaneously

[scottp999]

See part number on prior pages:

Originally Posted by 1QuikWS6

OK, just got back with my car. Invoice as follows:

SIB 61 02 13 Checked Connection and Replaced Cable End As Per SIB. Intitialized Steering Angle Sensor. Set Time & Date. No Check Control Messages.

Basically, they cut off the end of the cable coming from battery at rear to fusebox, near the fusebox end.

Then crimped on Wire #61 12 9 312 133 which has a connection similar to old connection - but it also has a screw to hold the connector firmly to it's mating fusebox connector at all times.

Originally Posted by MountainStone

Took my car in for service (vacuum leak) and they performed the recall while they had the car. The paperwork says 'install the repair cable for positive battery cable' and also says 'junction box not necessary.' Part number is listed as '61-12-9-312-133' Never had any electrical issues with the car.

[NGEE]

^what he said. Unless your car had problems, then they likely would replace the fuse box (power distribution unit) part#61-14-9-119-447.

[bmwauug]

Mine is going in Friday - hope i get a nice loaner.

Anything to look out for after the work is done? Like replacing parts properly etc?

[SpeedBuggy]

Originally Posted by elratrero69

How many cables are there for this, my SA showed me a part number of the recall and thats why im not going to get my refund. The part number he showed me was $32. I payed alot more.


I had part numbers 61-14-9-119-447 & 61-12-9-269-907 replaced isnt this the recall?

Originally Posted by mr_milo

I believe there was the old way (how yours was done) and the new way (what the SA is telling you). It seems BMW change how to do the recall since the "old way" would have cost them an arm and a leg. And the new way is a LOT easier without as much labor.

I could be very wrong but that's how I understand it. If the SA won't help, talk to the service manager. If they won't help call BMW USA. If they won't help, there is always your local news and the NHTSA.

BMW seemed to know of the problem in mid 2011. I would suspect this is what BMW did to repair, per the attached your car. Part number 61-12-9-269-907 is definitely the complete cable that runs from the battery to fuse box, but not sure of the other. One would believe that BMW should reimburse for the repairs prior to recall, especially if you have the work order and an invoice for the repairs. A call to BMW USA sounds like the next order of business, just remember cooler heads prevail.....................

[elratrero69]

Originally Posted by alexwhittemore

What milo said, but also keep in mind that SAs aren't NECESSARILY the most knowledgable people about BMWs, though they ought to be. I had an SA who told me that all E90s ever made came stock with bluetooth (which is wildly incorrect), for example. There's always the possibility that yours is simply misinformed and doesn't realize that the old fix was substantially more involved and expensive, and that policy is to refund those repairs.

He could also just be a huge dick. Tread lightly to make sure it's not the former, then let him have it

I think he was being a dick, because of the show i put the time of the repair.
Im going to call BMW USA in the AM

[nukezero]

I need to bring my car in. Does anyone know if the dealer will touch the DME or reprogram the car?

I have a Cobb tune and I'm wondering if I should just leave it in there or take the tune out?

[Clammy]

Got my notice in the mail today.

Cheers!

[NGEE]

Originally Posted by SpeedBuggy

BMW seemed to know of the problem in mid 2011. I would suspect this is what BMW did to repair, per the attached your car. Part number 61-12-9-269-907 is definitely the complete cable that runs from the battery to fuse box, but not sure of the other.

BMW initially fixed the issue by replacing the entire cable as per the instructions you attached. When they were forced to recall half a million cars they came up with a more cost-effective solution - crimping in a new cable end at the fuse panel. This significantly reduced the labor involved, and accounts for the difference in the part - one is the entire cable, the other is a cable end. Both come with a proper washer and connector screw.

[NGEE]

Originally Posted by nukezero

I need to bring my car in. Does anyone know if the dealer will touch the DME or reprogram the car?

Have you had any symptoms?

There is no DME or reprogramming involved, unless your failure was so severe that it really did some damage.

Tuning removal prior to service appears to vary from dealer to dealer.

[elratrero69]

I called Bmw USA and more confusion.

I told them that because of that connector my car needed the new cable and fuse box. (Bmw dealer now wont see that because a new connector comes attached to the cable. So that part # wont be on the invoice.) BMW USA said they will only reimburse me for the part and not the labor if the dealer has to replace the part. That part is only $32. I want my $2400 back.

[EyeGuy]

Originally Posted by nukezero

I need to bring my car in. Does anyone know if the dealer will touch the DME or reprogram the car?

I have a Cobb tune and I'm wondering if I should just leave it in there or take the tune out?

I'm on the same boat as you. I think its worth the 10 mins to flash back to stock just in case.

[NGEE]

Originally Posted by elratrero69

I called Bmw USA and more confusion.

I told them that because of that connector my car needed the new cable and fuse box. (Bmw dealer now wont see that because a new connector comes attached to the cable. So that part # wont be on the invoice.) BMW USA said they will only reimburse me for the part and not the labor if the dealer has to replace the part. That part is only $32. I want my $2400 back.

This is crazy. The symptom you had is the recall symptom (stalling). The two parts they replaced are the recall parts - battery cable and fuse box (power distribution unit). This could not possibly be more straightforward. Are you having a communication issue with them?

If you don't get anywhere with BMW I'd call the NHTSA and inform them that BMW is not honoring the recall.

[nukezero]

Originally Posted by edrive90

Have you had any symptoms?

There is no DME or reprogramming involved, unless your failure was so severe that it really did some damage.

Tuning removal prior to service appears to vary from dealer to dealer.

No symptoms! No problems.

I'm 100% out of warranty. But just in case, I don't want the dealer to fxck around with the DME.

Also, do the dealers still "log" customers who have tunes? even though they are out of warranty?

Does it even matter at that point? Kind of like a "mark" that this car has been modified/tuned.

[Treize]

I have a US car, living in Canada (not sure if I'll get the letter). Anyone just call them and take it in?

Hoping this won't affect any coding I've done to the car :/

[elratrero69]

Originally Posted by edrive90

This is crazy. The symptom you had is the recall symptom (stalling). The two parts they replaced are the recall parts - battery cable and fuse box (power distribution unit). This could not possibly be more straightforward. Are you having a communication issue with them?

If you don't get anywhere with BMW I'd call the NHTSA and inform them that BMW is not honoring the recall.

I have to take it in on Monday. Because they want to take a another look, watever that means.

[Monster900]

Originally Posted by elratrero69

I have to take it in on Monday. Because they want to take a another look, watever that means.

Don't let BMW get away with it. They owe you $2400 for the previous repair. I am thinking of going after them for one (1) replaced injector BMW charged me $600 for 5 months before the recall.

[NGEE]

Originally Posted by elratrero69

I have to take it in on Monday. Because they want to take a another look, watever that means.

In the words of Pete Hogwallop: That don't make no sense. What could they possibly want to look at? Do they want to look and see if they did the work properly before reimbursing you? It sounds as if there is more to this than you're telling us.

They have the invoice in their records with the part numbers. They performed the recall work before the recall was issued. A story can't possibly get any simpler than that.

Do you still have your invoice?

[NGEE]

Originally Posted by Monster900

Don't let BMW get away with it. They owe you $2400 for the previous repair. I am thinking of going after them for one (1) replaced injector BMW charged me $600 for 5 months before the recall.

How is the injector connected in any way with this recall?

[alexwhittemore]

Originally Posted by edrive90

How is the injector connected in any way with this recall?

I'm guessing they replaced it thinking it was the source of a stall? Anyway, I wouldn't bother trying too hard, since if they replaced it, there had to be something wrong with it in the first place which, whether actually the cause of a stall or not, is unrelated to the recall.

I.E. whether they found it for the wrong reason or not, it's still unrelated.