GIAC Stage 2 Beta flashed Today!

enrita · 11-21-2009, 05:26 AM

its a dynojet , they all read extremely high.

Prince ///M · 11-21-2009, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by enrita

its a dynojet , they all read extremely high.

The dyno you are using IMHO is perfectly calibrated.
Is it a Mustang?

enrita · 11-21-2009, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince ///M

The dyno you are using IMHO is perfectly calibrated.
Is it a Mustang?

Its a rototest type like Maha.

A418t81 · 11-21-2009, 07:42 AM

Nice improvement. Go see how it does against your usual buddies.

dzenno · 11-21-2009, 07:48 AM

Can anyone test proceed with similar mods on this dyno?

dboonephs · 11-21-2009, 09:05 AM

great numbers, I've been waiting for a good flash

5soko · 11-21-2009, 09:13 AM

Looks good! Congrats man.

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Originally Posted by A418t81

Nice improvement. Go see how it does against your usual buddies.

+1

bmwzimmer · 11-21-2009, 09:16 AM

Can you run Stage 2 on 91 octane with only:

Dual cone intakes, Upgraded IC, 2ndary Cat Delete but with stock downpipes???

If so and it makes over 385whp and come with map switch, I'm totally there!!!

Proper Motion LLC · 11-21-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince ///M

The 370WHP from GIAC stageI demonstrate how high this dyno is reading.

Based on the logs I received, a full bolt on car (top quality components) with the same tune is in no way producing more than 310-320whp (13.3psi peak).

But 360 RWHP for Map 4/5 on JB3 with all bolt-ons seems pretty spot on

bmwzimmer · 11-21-2009, 09:20 AM

Mr5, do you have Aftermarket DV's? Are the GIAC project cars running them?

quattr0 · 11-21-2009, 09:21 AM

Where is Mr. DAMN?

Congrats!

Daya · 11-21-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwzimmer

Can you run Stage 2 on 91 octane with only:

Dual cone intakes, Upgraded IC, 2ndary Cat Delete but with stock downpipes???

If so and it makes over 385whp and come with map switch, I'm totally there!!!

I have been told you need to replace your stock cats (dp and secondary) with at least high flow cats if not completely catless. You will also need FMIC and exhaust

Sniz · 11-21-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 09AlpineTTSedan

But 360 RWHP for Map 4/5 on JB3 with all bolt-ons seems pretty spot on

those are great numbers Mr 5!! well done GIAC.

I can believe those numbers on 16.5psi w a great tune.

^ isnt JB3 map 5 running above 13.3psi?

Prince ///M · 11-21-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 09AlpineTTSedan

But 360 RWHP for Map 4/5 on JB3 with all bolt-ons seems pretty spot on

I don't have any logs on jb3 so I can not say anything about it.

Btw the Giac stageI is for sure in the 320 (real) whp range on a fully modded car.

Zeph · 11-21-2009, 10:01 AM

I think with FMIC and catless DP's you can run stage 2. Might* need a DCI or atleast a new drop-in filter but not sure. Pretty sure EAS and Mr5 both have 2nd cats still (maybe higher flow ones tho).

I like this tune. I remember reading the original stage1 reviews... it does eliminate the lag between shifts right? Especially that DREADED 3-4 shift?

brianGriffin17 · 11-21-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeph

I think with FMIC and catless DP's you can run stage 2. Might* need a DCI or atleast a new drop-in filter but not sure. Pretty sure EAS and Mr5 both have 2nd cats still (maybe higher flow ones tho).

I like this tune. I remember reading the original stage1 reviews... it does eliminate the lag between shifts right? Especially that DREADED 3-4 shift?

I was set to get the stage 2 beta file until I told them I still have stock secondary cats, you need high flow cats all around at the bare minimum

brianGriffin17 · 11-21-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince ///M

I don't have any logs on jb3 so I can not say anything about it.

Btw the Giac stageI is for sure in the 320 (real) whp range on a fully modded car.

With GIAC stage 1, FMIC, catted DP and axle back exhaust I was putting down 333 whp and 351 wtq on dynojet

bmwzimmer · 11-21-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by brianGriffin17

With GIAC stage 1, FMIC, catted DP and axle back exhaust I was putting down 333 whp and 351 wtq on dynojet

WOW, so Mr5 made ~70hp and 50tq more than you on a stage 2 with intake and catless DP's as basically the only difference?

Prince ///M · 11-21-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by brianGriffin17

With GIAC stage 1, FMIC, catted DP and axle back exhaust I was putting down 333 whp and 351 wtq on dynojet

Still quite high reading for my taste, but for sure yours are way more realistic numbers (in the upper range of measurement error at least)

brianGriffin17 · 11-21-2009, 11:07 AM

here is a scan of my stage 1 dyno with fmic, catted dp and catback exhaust with stock secondary cats.

remember, stage 1 is not designed for a car with my mods, i need to get a resonated midpipe and then upgrade to stage 2

Proper Motion LLC · 11-21-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by brianGriffin17

With GIAC stage 1, FMIC, catted DP and axle back exhaust I was putting down 333 whp and 351 wtq on dynojet

I wouldn't doubt that catless dp, dp-back exhaust, and dci would have netted u another 25 rwhp.

Proper Motion LLC · 11-21-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwzimmer

WOW, so Mr5 made ~70hp and 50tq more than you on a stage 2 with intake and catless DP's as basically the only difference?

And dp-back exhaust with high flow cats

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bmwzimmer Major 35 Rep 1,084 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 91 octane states iTrader: (0)	Mr5, do you have Aftermarket DV's? Are the GIAC project cars running them?
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Zeph Major 27 Rep 1,410 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335i 6MT SGM CR/BD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeast USA iTrader: (0)	I think with FMIC and catless DP's you can run stage 2. Might* need a DCI or atleast a new drop-in filter but not sure. Pretty sure EAS and Mr5 both have 2nd cats still (maybe higher flow ones tho). I like this tune. I remember reading the original stage1 reviews... it does eliminate the lag between shifts right? Especially that DREADED 3-4 shift?
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brianGriffin17 Private 3 Rep 67 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	here is a scan of my stage 1 dyno with fmic, catted dp and catback exhaust with stock secondary cats. remember, stage 1 is not designed for a car with my mods, i need to get a resonated midpipe and then upgrade to stage 2
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