**WARNING**162s w/ SP do not work in snow!

martho05 · 11-26-2005, 07:28 AM

I wanted to let everyone know that I drove home last night in my 330i with SP and it was like driving a sleigh. The car did not want to stop or start in the light snow we got in Michigan. I was trying to get up small hills and the car did not want to go up or better yet had no grip what so ever. I am going to attach a thread that contains the same rims and tires I purchased and will be putting on this Friday. Until then, I am driving my wife's Taurus to and from work. Please don't take a chance in the snow with the 162s. They DO NOT work in snow and ice. Hope this helps!

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5397

parafrog · 11-26-2005, 08:07 AM

so are soooooooo right. just posted my experience too and it sounds the same.

Mark · 11-26-2005, 08:55 AM

Yea, basicly never try to drive with summer tires (the sports pacakge comes with summer tires) in any kind of snow at all. Some people risk it and go with the summer tires, but inevitably the car will loose control and you will damage something or someone.. Winter tires are worth the small investment.. and then you can run circles around SUVs, its fun.

ZenDriver · 11-26-2005, 09:01 AM

Headline: The Sky Is Blue!

Mark Chen · 11-26-2005, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkE90M3

Yea, basicly never try to drive with summer tires (the sports pacakge comes with summer tires) in any kind of snow at all. Some people risk it and go with the summer tires, but inevitably the car will loose control and you will damage something or someone.. Winter tires are worth the small investment.. and then you can run circles around SUVs, its fun.

Thanks for sharing these experiences~
I never have driving experience in snow day~
I think I should not drive my car in snow

Black325i · 11-26-2005, 02:31 PM

Glad you made it home safely. Summers = Death even in less than an inch of the white stuff.

BMW0 · 11-26-2005, 02:45 PM

Thanks for the headsup Martho05! I'll take that advice.

Tierfreund · 11-27-2005, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenDriver

Headline: The Sky Is Blue!

I was going to say something to the same effect (like "Duh" or "No kidding"), but you put it so elloquently, I could never top that.

scottz5 · 11-27-2005, 08:38 AM

1/2 the fun is getting there on summer tires.

Robbie! · 11-27-2005, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tierfreund

I was going to say something to the same effect (like "Duh" or "No kidding"), but you put it so elloquently, I could never top that.

I had no $hit typed and was ready to hit the post button, but the "filter" worked and I hit the X button instead :rocks:

StewtheBassman · 11-27-2005, 08:43 AM

Surprise, surprise.

scottz5 · 11-27-2005, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by martho05

I wanted to let everyone know that I drove home last night in my 330i with SP and it was like driving a sleigh. The car did not want to stop or start in the light snow we got in Michigan. I was trying to get up small hills and the car did not want to go up or better yet had no grip what so ever. I am going to attach a thread that contains the same rims and tires I purchased and will be putting on this Friday. Until then, I am driving my wife's Taurus to and from work. Please don't take a chance in the snow with the 162s. They DO NOT work in snow and ice. Hope this helps!

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5397

Turn off the traction control and the car can move!

StewtheBassman · 11-27-2005, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by scottz5

Turn off the traction control and the car can move!

True enough.

bavarian19 · 11-27-2005, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenDriver

Headline: The Sky Is Blue!

Not today... today its looking rather white-ish...

Again... I was expecting a repsonse like 'Do not put hands on hot burner. You will burn your hands.'

It says explicitly that summer tires are not meant for driving on snow or ice. What happens when you do so? well, you have no control over your car.

On a side note, I have the performance AS tires on my 162's, and had a little fun in the snow this past weekend. Tires are amazing in the snow. Not as good as winter tires, but sure do the trick...

prolix21 · 12-08-2005, 06:30 PM

i had my first winter experience with the 330i zsp summer tires. totally worthless, in fact, i couldn't even make it home. i hobbled my car to a parking lot downtown and walked the rest of teh way home.

we had a snow storm here in cincy, and of course my winter tires aren't here yet (show up tomorrow actually), so i had to try and get home on my summer wheels. needless to say i had a horrific time. most people were handling it ok, going slow, but my car had ZERO traction. i sat and switched from dsc to dts, drove in 1st, etc, ANYTHING to get a bit of traction, but it was totally pointless. i couldn't get up the hill to my parking spot so i had to traverse various downtown streets to find a lot to ditch my car and walk.

so anyone out there thinking they can make it ok with the 330i summer sport tires, no way. i live in cincy and i had my doubts about needing winters, but today i realized my purchase was totally worth it. now i just need to get the things mounted before more snow hits next week.

poldim · 12-09-2005, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenDriver

Headline: The Sky Is Blue!

Haha.... ditto

NaTuReB0Y · 12-09-2005, 12:53 AM

We need SNOW in southern California!

Sounds like fun....drifting to the left and right...in the snow!

Tierfreund · 12-09-2005, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prolix21

i had my first winter experience with the 330i zsp summer tires. totally worthless, in fact, i couldn't even make it home. i hobbled my car to a parking lot downtown and walked the rest of teh way home.

we had a snow storm here in cincy, and of course my winter tires aren't here yet (show up tomorrow actually), so i had to try and get home on my summer wheels. needless to say i had a horrific time. most people were handling it ok, going slow, but my car had ZERO traction. i sat and switched from dsc to dts, drove in 1st, etc, ANYTHING to get a bit of traction, but it was totally pointless. i couldn't get up the hill to my parking spot so i had to traverse various downtown streets to find a lot to ditch my car and walk.

so anyone out there thinking they can make it ok with the 330i summer sport tires, no way. i live in cincy and i had my doubts about needing winters, but today i realized my purchase was totally worth it. now i just need to get the things mounted before more snow hits next week.

NO KIDDING !!! THANKS, I NEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED that high performance summer tires would leave you stranded on snow.

Any other advice? Is smoking really bad for your health? Will bubble gum be hard to get off your soles if you step into it?

Armen52 · 12-09-2005, 03:54 AM

Okay guys we get the point

prolix21 · 12-09-2005, 08:16 AM

there have been many questions around about HOW bad they may be in winter, especially for people who aren't quite north enough for horrible winters. winter tires in cincinnati are questionable as our winters tend to be fairly mild and may not warrant the investment. i figured i'd share my experience for anyone in a similar area thinking it may be helpful if anyone is wonder if they are really necessary for people not living in the snowbelt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tierfreund

NO KIDDING !!! THANKS, I NEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED that high performance summer tires would leave you stranded on snow.

Any other advice? Is smoking really bad for your health? Will bubble gum be hard to get off your soles if you step into it?

Tierfreund · 12-09-2005, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by prolix21

bite me asshole.

there have been many questions around about HOW bad they may be in winter, especially for people who aren't quite north enough for horrible winters. winter tires in cincinnati are questionable as our winters tend to be fairly mild and may not warrant the investment. i figured i'd share my experience for anyone in a similar area thinking it may be helpful if anyone is wonder if they are really necessary for people not living in the snowbelt.

Yes, well then THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INCREDIBLY HELPFULL POST. It really is incredibly important to disect the degrees of uselessness of high perferomance summer tires on snow. Incredibly useless or merely very useless.

Btw.: calling me an asshole makes you look bad, not me

If you can´t stand the heat....

prolix21 · 12-09-2005, 09:28 AM

the degree of uselessness of these tires is in fact a concern for some people. not all of us live in the snowbelt or canada and our winters are hit and miss. obviously these wheels can't even handle that, so i figured i'd share my experience. if you can survive a day or two of snow per-season, why the hell would you drop 1500 on a set of wheels? this question has come up so i figured i'd share my experience, if you think its useless THEN DON'T READ IT. you're obviously incredibly bored if you have to nitpick through posts and point out the ones you personally find useless. perhaps calling you an asshole was out of line, but i'm just calling it like i see it. if you think my post was useless, yours was even more-so.

11-26-2005, 07:28 AM	#1
martho05 Private First Class 18 Rep 146 Posts Drives: 2010 335i xDrive Coupe Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Fenton, MI iTrader: (0)	WARNING162s w/ SP do not work in snow! I wanted to let everyone know that I drove home last night in my 330i with SP and it was like driving a sleigh. The car did not want to stop or start in the light snow we got in Michigan. I was trying to get up small hills and the car did not want to go up or better yet had no grip what so ever. I am going to attach a thread that contains the same rims and tires I purchased and will be putting on this Friday. Until then, I am driving my wife's Taurus to and from work. Please don't take a chance in the snow with the 162s. They DO NOT work in snow and ice. Hope this helps! http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5397
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Mark Administrator 6724 Rep 4,201 Posts Drives: 1M Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW 1 Series M ... [8.34]	Yea, basicly never try to drive with summer tires (the sports pacakge comes with summer tires) in any kind of snow at all. Some people risk it and go with the summer tires, but inevitably the car will loose control and you will damage something or someone.. Winter tires are worth the small investment.. and then you can run circles around SUVs, its fun. __________________ BMW 1M. BMW M2. BMW M2.
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Black325i '06 325i / Jet Black / 6sp manual / Sports Package / Active Steering / Adap Lights 1 Rep 118 Posts Drives: 2006 E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Glad you made it home safely. Summers = Death even in less than an inch of the white stuff.
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BMW0 Colonel 237 Rep 2,059 Posts Drives: AW E90 330i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spokane, WA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Thanks for the headsup Martho05! I'll take that advice. __________________ 330i 6MT l 255 HP @ 5900 rpm 214 lb-ft Torque @ 3500 rpm l Alpine White l Beige l Aluminum l ZSP l 494 l PDC "Freude am Fahren" = "Joy to Drive"
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scottz5 Lieutenant Colonel 94 Rep 1,730 Posts Drives: 13 F10 535xi & 11.75 E93 M3 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	1/2 the fun is getting there on summer tires. __________________ 13 F10 535xi JB/B working on it 11.75 E93 M3 MR/Black Stock (wifey) 11 F10 535i AW/CB Mods Gone
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12-08-2005, 06:30 PM	#15
prolix21 Second Lieutenant 30 Rep 233 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW X3 xDrive30i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fort Collins iTrader: (1) Garage List 2006 330i zsp (sold) [0.00] 2020 X3 xDrive30i [0.00]	i had my first winter experience with the 330i zsp summer tires. totally worthless, in fact, i couldn't even make it home. i hobbled my car to a parking lot downtown and walked the rest of teh way home. we had a snow storm here in cincy, and of course my winter tires aren't here yet (show up tomorrow actually), so i had to try and get home on my summer wheels. needless to say i had a horrific time. most people were handling it ok, going slow, but my car had ZERO traction. i sat and switched from dsc to dts, drove in 1st, etc, ANYTHING to get a bit of traction, but it was totally pointless. i couldn't get up the hill to my parking spot so i had to traverse various downtown streets to find a lot to ditch my car and walk. so anyone out there thinking they can make it ok with the 330i summer sport tires, no way. i live in cincy and i had my doubts about needing winters, but today i realized my purchase was totally worth it. now i just need to get the things mounted before more snow hits next week.
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NaTuReB0Y Powered By 36DD 337 Rep 7,369 Posts Drives: 2006 E90 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Inland Empire iTrader: (12)	We need SNOW in southern California! Sounds like fun....drifting to the left and right...in the snow! __________________ 2006 E90 330i Jet Black \| 20" WORK VS-XX \| FK452 \| H&R Sport on Koni Yellow \| REMUS QUAD
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Armen52 Captain 33 Rep 663 Posts Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Okay guys we get the point __________________ E90 330i delivered 6/29/2005, ZSP/ZPP/ZCW/Step, Arctic/Gray/Walnut
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12-09-2005, 09:28 AM	#22
prolix21 Second Lieutenant 30 Rep 233 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW X3 xDrive30i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fort Collins iTrader: (1) Garage List 2006 330i zsp (sold) [0.00] 2020 X3 xDrive30i [0.00]	the degree of uselessness of these tires is in fact a concern for some people. not all of us live in the snowbelt or canada and our winters are hit and miss. obviously these wheels can't even handle that, so i figured i'd share my experience. if you can survive a day or two of snow per-season, why the hell would you drop 1500 on a set of wheels? this question has come up so i figured i'd share my experience, if you think its useless THEN DON'T READ IT. you're obviously incredibly bored if you have to nitpick through posts and point out the ones you personally find useless. perhaps calling you an asshole was out of line, but i'm just calling it like i see it. if you think my post was useless, yours was even more-so.
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