Running in

Hotcoupe · 10-02-2007, 10:37 AM

So what's the general view amongst the members?

Rag the arse off it or pamper it like a mistress.

I was advised by an Audi engineer many years ago, that if you drove it like it was stolen from day one, it would always outperform a car of the same spec that had been run in as per the manual.

And......................................

dxb335d · 10-02-2007, 10:41 AM

im with the audi engineer on this one

and one thing to bear in mind if you do want to run in like a granny, the car has already been redlined

by staff at the docks, and by some one at the dealership

your car may only have 4 miles on her when you take delivery, trust me there were 4 miles of high revs there rendering the running in process pointless

Carlos

silverbmwz3 · 10-02-2007, 11:44 AM

I pretty much followed the manual (not 100% but more or less) - they put it in for a reason. It isn't just about the engine it is the whole car meshing together. I thought I read somewhere that some parts are actually made so they DON'T fit then fit together as you run it in....... With beemer diesels you don't really have to push that hard to go fast anyway so there was enough learning/fun to be had and within a short period of time I'd done a few long runs and there I was at the run-in.

- Paul - · 10-02-2007, 02:33 PM

Bit of both

Evil Diesel · 10-02-2007, 03:00 PM

You gotta bed the brakes in.

Then rag the arse off it.

Steve A · 10-02-2007, 03:12 PM

heavy right foot.......always

dxb335d · 10-02-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Ashton

heavy right foot.......always

GOOD BOY STEVIE A

roofer · 10-02-2007, 06:10 PM

Get the first oil out after 1k...then thrash the tits off it always seems to work fine

dxb335d · 10-03-2007, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by roofer

Get the first oil out after 1k...then thrash the tits off it always seems to work fine

yeah thats another one i have heard, when a engine builder uses a special ''running in oil'' but our BMW dont do they? i admit there may be some swarf??!!!

if bmw not say it needs that service why bother?

i know the M series cars do

Carlos

sheps · 10-03-2007, 05:51 AM

I gave mine stick from day 1 (has now covered 2500 miles).

I always let it warm up properly, didn't sit on the limiter or, likewise, labour it.

Other than that, it received full throttle and upper-end revs form day one, and is running beautifully.

I did the same with the Subaru i got rid of to make way for the bimmer, and that managed 3 years and 90k miles (including a lot of track time) without missing a beat, as did my golf gti before that.

If there is a good case for running a car in (or rather, a case against not running it in) I'm yet to see it proven.

330cdsport · 10-03-2007, 06:06 AM

Yep I am the same. Drive it normally from day 1 (let it warm up and then redline it - as and when i have the chance)

Serjames · 10-03-2007, 08:12 AM

Only real consideration is to MAKESURE it's warmed up.

After that it's fair game.

SJ

silverbmwz3 · 10-03-2007, 08:13 AM

What if its NOT warmed up?

Serjames · 10-03-2007, 08:26 AM

lol don't got there....

It's not a pretty sight.

dxb335d · 10-03-2007, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverbmwz3

What if its NOT warmed up?

dont thrash it, the pistons are not a pefect fit untill there warmed up. also the oil is thick and not quick enough to circulate, damage logn term will be done from thrashing from cold. its funny tho some people wait for water to be upto temp, but the oil always takes longer some peole dont realise this..

but we dont have any temp gauges on our cars so we cant check

i would dayafter 10 miles the oil would be upto temp

Hotcoupe · 10-03-2007, 08:54 AM

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i would dayafter 10 miles the oil would be upto temp

I'd advise you manually check the temperature Carlosdipthestick before raggin it.
How - stick a thermometer on the dipstick

Don't check the level though

dxb335d · 10-03-2007, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotcoupe

I'd advise you manually check the temperature Carlosdipthestick before raggin it.
How - stick a thermometer on the dipstick

Don't check the level though

Evil Diesel · 10-03-2007, 03:29 PM

Had it 2 days now.

Mix of motorway driving and round town.

I am getting 19.2 mpg.

It is a diesel.

Does this make me a bad person?

dxb335d · 10-03-2007, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Diesel

Had it 2 days now.

Mix of motorway driving and round town.

I am getting 19.2 mpg.

It is a diesel.

Does this make me a bad person?

to me that means your drivin like a c*** because i get a little worse, but then again im using all 286bhp and all 428Ib ft torque at EVERY SINGLE given opportunity

in town on back roads everywhere

i dont care for MPG, i care for MPH

based on what you have said Tony, you have given her A VERY HARD break in

Nohedes · 10-04-2007, 06:04 AM

Blackadder got this right when he said (something like)...

"Treat your car like you treat your woman... Get inside her five times a day and take her to Heaven and back."

330cdsport · 10-04-2007, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nohedes

Blackadder got this right when he said (something like)...

"Treat your car like you treat your woman... Get inside her five times a day and take her to Heaven and back."

What a brilliant episode.

It was Squadron Commander The Lord Flashheart played by Rik Mayall in Blackadder Goes Forth

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