AMS intercooler design for the 335/135

jeho · 02-03-2009, 10:03 PM

any idea if there will be an imprint of "AMS in black letters on this fmic like the evo FMIC ?

Cryokid · 02-03-2009, 10:06 PM

Eric,
I stopped by your place over the xmas holidays and saw the quality of work. I drive an E93 and wanted to know how hard this was going to be to install? Is there any cutting required?

Just curious.

Nebster · 02-03-2009, 10:22 PM

you're close enough just have them do it.

Eric@AMS · 02-04-2009, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@AWD

Hey Eric, Nice to see you in here.. let me ask you.. Why is it these 335i cores cannot be made taller to give more surface area?? Active is the only company i have found that is making the cores taller.. There must be enough room if the active core fits.. I haven't taken my bumper off yet since i only got the car 5 days ago but i am curious if you have any insight.. Thanks!!

Mike

Well you can but it requires a great deal of cutting. With most people keeping the stock turbo this core is MORE than enough and even with a larger turbo upgrade this will be good up to 650hp. It's a really thick core so going taller and thinner would essentially be the close to the same core so long as the core volume matches up.

If we really start releasing a ton of HP in this car an it needs a bigger core we will offer one but as with every car we make parts for we don't want to overdo it and sell a part that not only you don't need but a part that will require excessive installation.

Nice to see you on here Mike and congrats again on your 8 sec pass!

Eric

Eric@AMS · 02-04-2009, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cryokid

Eric,
I stopped by your place over the xmas holidays and saw the quality of work. I drive an E93 and wanted to know how hard this was going to be to install? Is there any cutting required?

Just curious.

This will require very very mild trimming of the plastic shroud that we are going to include a template for. Other than that this will be a BREEZE to install!

Eric

Eric@AMS · 02-04-2009, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J86

any idea if there will be an imprint of "AMS in black letters on this fmic like the evo FMIC ?

Of course. I know my car will be sporting the AMS logo on the FMIC!

We will make it an option as some like to stay under the radar

Eric

jeho · 02-04-2009, 03:31 PM

^so to confirm, this fmic will require cutting or not cutting for e90/e92 oem bumper?

Eric@AMS · 02-04-2009, 03:50 PM

it will require a small trim of the backside of the front bumper cover (an inch at most) as the core is a bid deeper than the stock one. Nothing crazy. We could of made a smaller OEM sized unit but it really would only support the stock twins and nothing past that.

Eric

scheherazade · 02-05-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric@AMS

it will require a small trim of the backside of the front bumper cover (an inch at most) as the core is a bid deeper than the stock one. Nothing crazy. We could of made a smaller OEM sized unit but it really would only support the stock twins and nothing past that.

Eric

I understand 'backside' as : 'rear-most portion of the bumper. The trailing edge of the bumper plastic at bottom of the car'.

Does that imply that the FMIC will hang down low enough to 'push down' on the bottom bumper plastic, and that's why you need to trim it? Hence making the FMIC extend down below the bottom of the bumper? FMIC would be strike-prone (road clutter, snags, etc)?

-scheherazade

edit : The part that I talk about is visible in the VK video

@ 2:04 : person pulls on the plastic that I am thinking of.

NM_BMW · 02-05-2009, 05:46 PM

I've been waiting for you guys to release your FMIC. Can't wait

billspreston · 02-05-2009, 05:55 PM

Nice!

AV9 · 02-05-2009, 11:38 PM

looking forward to this one!

E82tt6 · 02-06-2009, 12:37 AM

Agreeed. I can't wait to see dynos. I'm debating between this and the Helix FMIC, as I'm also very impressed by their design, epsecially after seeing pressure drop and flow data.

Rugs · 02-06-2009, 08:09 AM

Very Interested, looking forward to the finished product!

94JZA80 · 02-06-2009, 11:41 AM

hey Eric, the CAD design looks quite nice - what exactly are the dimensions of the core itself?

TIA,
Eric

flukey · 02-06-2009, 12:03 PM

Don't forget the AT folks! ATs require a slightly different setup. Code3 had to offer an additional kit to make their intercooler work with the ATs.

Eric@AMS · 02-06-2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scheherazade

I understand 'backside' as : 'rear-most portion of the bumper. The trailing edge of the bumper plastic at bottom of the car'.

Does that imply that the FMIC will hang down low enough to 'push down' on the bottom bumper plastic, and that's why you need to trim it? Hence making the FMIC extend down below the bottom of the bumper? FMIC would be strike-prone (road clutter, snags, etc)?

-scheherazade

edit : The part that I talk about is visible in the VK video

@ 2:04 : person pulls on the plastic that I am thinking of.

It should not really hang any lower but rather stick farther towards the bumper.

The core is a 6" x 6" x 24" core.

Eric

Gumby_F80 · 02-07-2009, 10:30 AM

cant wait to see this and all the other stuff you guys come out with. AMS

E82tt6 · 02-07-2009, 12:40 PM

Any data based on the CAD or material? Pressure drop, flow, volume, mass, specific. Heat? Aprox efficiency at 16psi/6000-6500?

stressdoc · 02-07-2009, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric@AMS

It should not really hang any lower but rather stick farther towards the bumper.

The core is a 6" x 6" x 24" core.

Eric

If you could Pshop a pic of the backside of the bumper and anticipated cuts that would be great.

OT, but I noticed that the upcoming BMW Perf tune reportedly includes mods to the IC -- indicating the importance of the IC for reliability and performance.

Juicer · 02-07-2009, 01:24 PM

I think the trimming would be pretty similar to what is required with the Code3. The dimensions of the Code3 and AMS are similar (both 6" tall and 6" deep. There is a DIY posted on the Code3 site. Trimming is minor for 335i and much more extensive for 135i for the Code3.

JoosyJoos · 02-16-2009, 05:52 PM

Any news?

I'm hoping you guys have this out before the summer because you'll probably have a taker!

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Eric@AMS Captain 71 Rep 726 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Chicago, IL iTrader: (5)	it will require a small trim of the backside of the front bumper cover (an inch at most) as the core is a bid deeper than the stock one. Nothing crazy. We could of made a smaller OEM sized unit but it really would only support the stock twins and nothing past that. Eric
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94JZA80 Captain 25 Rep 645 Posts Drives: 1994 BPU Supra Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sarasota, FL iTrader: (1)	hey Eric, the CAD design looks quite nice - what exactly are the dimensions of the core itself? TIA, Eric __________________ .
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