JB3 or Dinan 2?

BLACK335iCOUPE · 06-04-2009, 02:19 AM

Which one is better? Is there a cheaper place to get Dinan other than the BMW dealerships? I mean a $2000 to $500 difference is quite significant.. is the JB3 easy to get installed by someone? Would it cost a lot? Is it safe? Can the dealers detect it? If so, is it true you can just unplug it before going?

anybody got 0-60 or other performance stats for either of these? I know they both push 400hp and similar torque so it would be nice to see how fast the car goes with either of these puppies installed.

thanks,

Mark

enrita · 06-04-2009, 02:30 AM

depends what you are looking for and how big your wallat is. Do a search for both and decide which one suit you best.

TheTwinz · 06-04-2009, 03:22 AM

why are you considering a $2000 DINAN tune, and not even the $1000 Procede tune? IMO, you should be deciding between JB3 and Procede

DimSumBoy · 06-04-2009, 04:26 AM

i just got my procede today

i havent tried jb3, but im for sure happy with my vishnu product

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-04-2009, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLACK335iCOUPE

Which one is better? Is there a cheaper place to get Dinan other than the BMW dealerships? I mean a $2000 to $500 difference is quite significant.. is the JB3 easy to get installed by someone? Would it cost a lot? Is it safe? Can the dealers detect it? If so, is it true you can just unplug it before going?

anybody got 0-60 or other performance stats for either of these? I know they both push 400hp and similar torque so it would be nice to see how fast the car goes with either of these puppies installed.

thanks,

Mark

Where in Canada are you? I can definitely help install the JB3 if you're local to me or a couple guys I use for installs..

My vote is the JB3 but I am a little bias

LOL

Mike

Bomis · 06-04-2009, 06:49 AM

JB3 1,3 8DREV4 FTW....

Mike, got peak boost yesterday on 19,2 psi map 6...must say the car pulls harder on map 6, than on map 7...less prespol as well

is that because my car is pre 29,2 with no lag issue??

BobVader · 06-04-2009, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLACK335iCOUPE

Which one is better? Is there a cheaper place to get Dinan other than the BMW dealerships? I mean a $2000 to $500 difference is quite significant.. is the JB3 easy to get installed by someone? Would it cost a lot? Is it safe? Can the dealers detect it? If so, is it true you can just unplug it before going?

anybody got 0-60 or other performance stats for either of these? I know they both push 400hp and similar torque so it would be nice to see how fast the car goes with either of these puppies installed.

thanks,

Mark

If your are around Montreal..I can install for you JB3. Last time I have install one in 11 minutes.

kuvesh · 06-04-2009, 08:39 AM

jb3 is the best value mod IMO

Zeph · 06-04-2009, 09:05 AM

If you get the Dinan you can just go to the dealer without any worries or trying to "remove" anything. It does cost more and JB3 will give more power, but Dinan is a good all-around tune.

If you get JB3 and you are worried about the dealer you need to also get a BT scan tool to view/remove your tuner codes before taking the car to the dealer. It might also be a good idea to remove the tune in case they go looking in your ECU box.

PROcede is another viable option, if you get the CANBUS version you can view/clear codes with that and you won't need to buy the BT scan tool. Also with the PROcede if you got catless downpipes you can easily manipulate your O2 readings. With JB3 or Dinan tunes you would have to buy an additional O2 simulator if you were to add catless downpipes.

There are other turning options as well, like SSTT or JB+ which can be added/removed VERY easily for dealer visits. I can't list all the tunes because I am not familiar with ALL of them, but there are others as well.

Just

to make the best decision for YOUR needs. Good luck

Craig@SupremePower · 06-04-2009, 09:06 AM

JB3 FTW!

Jeff335i · 06-04-2009, 09:12 AM

JB3 PNP v1.3 is the best $579 you'll ever spend on your 335.

Easternedge · 06-04-2009, 09:14 AM

Any way you decide, the beast will awaken! My opinion is if you are going to do more than an exhaust and software do a JB3 or Vishnu... If you want to keep it simple, go Dinan. 90% of PPL Who run Software other than Dinan usually have AFE intakes, R/R Downpipes etc. Additional mods + Dinan do not go well.

Zeph · 06-04-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Easternedge

Any way you decide, the beast will awaken! My opinion is if you are going to do more than an exhaust and software do a JB3 or Vishnu... If you want to keep it simple, go Dinan. 90% of PPL Who run Software other than Dinan usually have AFE intakes, R/R Downpipes etc. Additional mods + Dinan do not go well.

Ya if you spend the money on Dinan for the additional warranty, keep in mind you have to use all BMW/Dinan parts. Anything else will basically cancel your Dinan warranty (like AFE intakes, R/R downpipes, AE exhaust, etc.).

SV Concepts · 06-04-2009, 12:45 PM

JB3 for sure. Just switched my software to JB3 and I like it so far. We're going to start carrying it very shortly! Moving up to more aggressive maps soon

5soko · 06-04-2009, 01:42 PM

The power and overall performance is amazing! Loving mine since i got it.

David 12 · 06-04-2009, 01:56 PM

I agree with 5soko - The JB3 pnp is fantastic!

If you are looking to put on a simple yet powerful tune, look no further!

Procede V3 rev II is a great tune as well - Call Terry and Shiv and then make your decision.

vase330 · 06-04-2009, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bomis

JB3 1,3 8DREV4 FTW....

Mike, got peak boost yesterday on 19,2 psi

map 6...must say the car pulls harder on map 6, than on map 7...less prespol as well

is that because my car is pre 29,2 with no lag issue??

Wow, wow, wow are you sure thats safe? Can we say Ka-BOOM!

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-04-2009, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vase330

Wow, wow, wow are you sure thats safe? Can we say Ka-BOOM!

I don't think thats actual boost. Either a typo or peak recall. Peak recall isn't the best way of looking at boost.

Mike

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-04-2009, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bomis

JB3 1,3 8DREV4 FTW....

Mike, got peak boost yesterday on 19,2 psi map 6...must say the car pulls harder on map 6, than on map 7...less prespol as well

is that because my car is pre 29,2 with no lag issue??

Peak recall isn't overly useful as it can capture traction control intervention, shift spikes, throttle closure, etc. You want to monitor sustained boost at say 5000-5500rpm in 3rd or 4th gear. Should be around 14-15psi on maps 6 or 7. If you are seeing 19psi sustained, which is impossible unless you removed the JB3 safety systems, then something is seriously wrong.

Mike

ZJP · 06-04-2009, 03:25 PM

JB3 is the shiz.

Drakos · 06-04-2009, 04:47 PM

JB3 FTW!! I ordered mine even before I got the car, lol. Install for me was 45mins from start to finish and it is the best mod investment I have made on any car I have ever owned. Just reference both the JB3 and Procede vids on youtube and you will have no probs for install. I now drive on map 5 as a daily driver without supporting mods, and I love it. AR DP's should be in next week and I will try 6 and 7. Very valid points posted above about supporting mods. Trust me, you will get the mod bug and any aftermarket tune mods you add will void you Dinan warranty. $100 labor and shipping to flash, $1900+ for warranty on Dinan.

BLACK335iCOUPE · 06-04-2009, 06:46 PM

why did that one guy recommend procede instead of JB3? is it good for warranty or something.. Mike, I live in BC and would love for you/somebody you know to install my chip. from all these posts it seems like I will need a new exhaust? I don't really wanna buy anything but the chip.. I also don't want a chip that requires fuel above 91 octane.. I'm a simple Joe, not good at messing around with equipment or clearing codes or any of that haha

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BLACK335iCOUPE Private First Class 13 Rep 116 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Full Load Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	JB3 or Dinan 2? Which one is better? Is there a cheaper place to get Dinan other than the BMW dealerships? I mean a $2000 to $500 difference is quite significant.. is the JB3 easy to get installed by someone? Would it cost a lot? Is it safe? Can the dealers detect it? If so, is it true you can just unplug it before going? anybody got 0-60 or other performance stats for either of these? I know they both push 400hp and similar torque so it would be nice to see how fast the car goes with either of these puppies installed. thanks, Mark
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	depends what you are looking for and how big your wallat is. Do a search for both and decide which one suit you best. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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TheTwinz Second Lieutenant 11 Rep 273 Posts Drives: 300Z Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 911 iTrader: (0)	why are you considering a $2000 DINAN tune, and not even the $1000 Procede tune? IMO, you should be deciding between JB3 and Procede
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Bomis Captain 63 Rep 989 Posts Drives: BMW E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sweden iTrader: (1)	JB3 1,3 8DREV4 FTW.... Mike, got peak boost yesterday on 19,2 psi map 6...must say the car pulls harder on map 6, than on map 7...less prespol as well is that because my car is pre 29,2 with no lag issue?? __________________ EURO E92 M3 2008 6MT Interlagos ///*Fully Loaded!* Evolve-R ECU Flash/Gintani Sport Exhaust/MS Stg2 Intake Kit/H&R Springs/MS 18/15 mm spacers/Bmw Perf. Grills/Gloss Black side gills/LCI Tails/LUX V3's/RD license plate leds
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kuvesh Lieutenant 26 Rep 513 Posts Drives: e92 335i juiced Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: singapore iTrader: (1)	jb3 is the best value mod IMO __________________ HAMANN FRONT APRON, SIDES, ROOF SPOILER & QUAD DIFFUSER \| VORSTEINER VRS TRUNK \| CSC3 ON 19” ADVAN RS \| BREMBO GT BBK \| BASTUCK QUAD \| KW V2 \| JB3 v1.3s beta \| BMW PERFORMANCE STEERING WHEEL \| M3 SIDE MIRRORS \| M5 SMG SHIFT KNOB \| BLACKOUT GRILLS \| PARTIALLY SMOKED LIGHTS \| WINDOW TINT
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Zeph Major 27 Rep 1,410 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335i 6MT SGM CR/BD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeast USA iTrader: (0)	If you get the Dinan you can just go to the dealer without any worries or trying to "remove" anything. It does cost more and JB3 will give more power, but Dinan is a good all-around tune. If you get JB3 and you are worried about the dealer you need to also get a BT scan tool to view/remove your tuner codes before taking the car to the dealer. It might also be a good idea to remove the tune in case they go looking in your ECU box. PROcede is another viable option, if you get the CANBUS version you can view/clear codes with that and you won't need to buy the BT scan tool. Also with the PROcede if you got catless downpipes you can easily manipulate your O2 readings. With JB3 or Dinan tunes you would have to buy an additional O2 simulator if you were to add catless downpipes. There are other turning options as well, like SSTT or JB+ which can be added/removed VERY easily for dealer visits. I can't list all the tunes because I am not familiar with ALL of them, but there are others as well. Just to make the best decision for YOUR needs. Good luck
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Jeff335i Private 2 Rep 75 Posts Drives: '07 335i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (1)	JB3 PNP v1.3 is the best $579 you'll ever spend on your 335.
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Easternedge Major 129 Rep 1,243 Posts Drives: 2012 Mini Coupe S JCW Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aventura, FL iTrader: (4) Garage List 2011 BMW 335is [0.00]	Any way you decide, the beast will awaken! My opinion is if you are going to do more than an exhaust and software do a JB3 or Vishnu... If you want to keep it simple, go Dinan. 90% of PPL Who run Software other than Dinan usually have AFE intakes, R/R Downpipes etc. Additional mods + Dinan do not go well. __________________ Back again after 10 yrs! Daily: 2012 Mini coupe S JCW Baby: 2007 BMW M6 Vert Wifey's: 2006 BMW 650I Family: 2007 Chevy Suburban LTZ
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SV Concepts 361 Rep 5,859 Posts Drives: Vorsteiner E60 M5 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 1460 White Oaks Rd. Suite F. Campbell, CA 95008 iTrader: (10)	JB3 for sure. Just switched my software to JB3 and I like it so far. We're going to start carrying it very shortly! Moving up to more aggressive maps soon
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5soko Brigadier General 333 Rep 4,632 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	The power and overall performance is amazing! Loving mine since i got it.
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David 12 Major 127 Rep 1,048 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X5 50i BSM, M Sport Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Omaha iTrader: (0)	I agree with 5soko - The JB3 pnp is fantastic! If you are looking to put on a simple yet powerful tune, look no further! Procede V3 rev II is a great tune as well - Call Terry and Shiv and then make your decision. Last edited by David 12; 06-04-2009 at 05:51 PM..
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ZJP Lieutenant Colonel 125 Rep 1,759 Posts Drives: F10 535xi / B6 S4 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LI, NY iTrader: (7)	JB3 is the shiz.
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Drakos Lieutenant 64 Rep 534 Posts Drives: 2022 G42 M240i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	JB3 FTW!! I ordered mine even before I got the car, lol. Install for me was 45mins from start to finish and it is the best mod investment I have made on any car I have ever owned. Just reference both the JB3 and Procede vids on youtube and you will have no probs for install. I now drive on map 5 as a daily driver without supporting mods, and I love it. AR DP's should be in next week and I will try 6 and 7. Very valid points posted above about supporting mods. Trust me, you will get the mod bug and any aftermarket tune mods you add will void you Dinan warranty. $100 labor and shipping to flash, $1900+ for warranty on Dinan.
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BLACK335iCOUPE Private First Class 13 Rep 116 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Full Load Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	why did that one guy recommend procede instead of JB3? is it good for warranty or something.. Mike, I live in BC and would love for you/somebody you know to install my chip. from all these posts it seems like I will need a new exhaust? I don't really wanna buy anything but the chip.. I also don't want a chip that requires fuel above 91 octane.. I'm a simple Joe, not good at messing around with equipment or clearing codes or any of that haha
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