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      04-22-2016, 02:48 PM   #1
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Non-iDrive to NBT retrofit completed

Hey all,

A few months ago I decided I wanted to tackle retrofitting the NBT iDrive system from a 2015 F30 into my E92, and after patiently buying the parts when I found them at their cheapest, I got this done at the beginning of March. I neglected to take pics and post this thread, but always wanted to, so here we go! I was previously using a Dynavin N6, which was a kickass alternative to doing all of this work. I have a rear view camera installed which is working perfectly with the NBT, with dynamic guidelines. If you have any questions, I'd be more than happy to help you out. I went from Professional / Logic 7 with no bluetooth/handsfree or USB in the center console, so I did install the OEM microphone in the original location, as well as the bluetooth antenna and the USB/AUX panel from an F30, which fit perfectly where my original AUX panel was.

These pics are from when I first installed the wrapped trim, if you zoom in on the vents some of the corners are peeling back -- my original intention was for the vent to keep the vinyl behind the trim after I reinstalled them, since they apply a fair amount of pressure against the trim after being clipped back on. Unfortunately, some of the corners aren't as tight as the other corners around the vents, so the quick solution was to apply 3M 94 Primer to the trouble areas, and they all look great now. I'll try to add updated shots, as I'm really happy with how well it turned out.

I did opt to go with the larger touch iDrive controller, and found a good deal on the US / English-language ECU for input, and it works fantastically. It was a small price to pay for a more comfortable knob, and it's fun to pinch to zoom in and out on the map and write letters/numbers.

While I was doing the NBT retrofit, I also wrapped my interior with a brushed blue steel vinyl, wrapped my steering wheel in a new leather that has perforated sections at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock similar the the M3 wheel and also did it with blue/red stitching, and took the time to wrap the matte black trim with carbon fiber vinyl.

One of the more interesting things with my retrofit journey, in my opinion, is that instead of purchasing a center console trim for the iDrive controller, I opted to do some custom fiberglass/bondo work instead to make a custom trim. It sits roughly in the OEM position, and you can't really tell it's not the original iDrive trim. I covered this is carbon fiber vinyl, as I felt matching it with the brushed blue steel vinyl would be a bit overpowering for the interior.

Hope you guys enjoy!
Nate

Note: These are low-res thumbnails to keep this post neat and tidy, please click them to view the high-res photos!

Dashboard removed, scary!


Center console trim before shot, note big hole for change pocket.


After filling in the change pocket.


Shot of the underside after being filled in.


After a few fill-ins, dremeling, and block sanding.


After wrapping with vinyl, test fit!


Retrofit completed, trim installed.


Shot of steering wheel.


Bluetooth streaming, with album art .

Last edited by bacardi198; 04-22-2016 at 06:46 PM. Reason: Added note about trim around vents.
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      04-24-2016, 11:18 PM   #2
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Thank you for sharing. Im looking in to doing the same as you have done here so i have about 100 question lol.

Can i ask what emulator you used and what was involved as far as coding and changing the VO?

Thanks
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nice work!!
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      04-30-2016, 07:07 PM   #4
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Very nice work man!
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Brave man, very nice! I want NBT badly.
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      05-02-2016, 03:04 PM   #6
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Wow looks really good! Im guessing you did the install on your own? How bad was it? and How long did it take you?? Im thinking of doing the same here soon


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Hey all,

A few months ago I decided I wanted to tackle retrofitting the NBT iDrive system from a 2015 F30 into my E92, and after patiently buying the parts when I found them at their cheapest, I got this done at the beginning of March. I neglected to take pics and post this thread, but always wanted to, so here we go! I was previously using a Dynavin N6, which was a kickass alternative to doing all of this work. I have a rear view camera installed which is working perfectly with the NBT, with dynamic guidelines. If you have any questions, I'd be more than happy to help you out. I went from Professional / Logic 7 with no bluetooth/handsfree or USB in the center console, so I did install the OEM microphone in the original location, as well as the bluetooth antenna and the USB/AUX panel from an F30, which fit perfectly where my original AUX panel was.

These pics are from when I first installed the wrapped trim, if you zoom in on the vents some of the corners are peeling back -- my original intention was for the vent to keep the vinyl behind the trim after I reinstalled them, since they apply a fair amount of pressure against the trim after being clipped back on. Unfortunately, some of the corners aren't as tight as the other corners around the vents, so the quick solution was to apply 3M 94 Primer to the trouble areas, and they all look great now. I'll try to add updated shots, as I'm really happy with how well it turned out.

I did opt to go with the larger touch iDrive controller, and found a good deal on the US / English-language ECU for input, and it works fantastically. It was a small price to pay for a more comfortable knob, and it's fun to pinch to zoom in and out on the map and write letters/numbers.

While I was doing the NBT retrofit, I also wrapped my interior with a brushed blue steel vinyl, wrapped my steering wheel in a new leather that has perforated sections at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock similar the the M3 wheel and also did it with blue/red stitching, and took the time to wrap the matte black trim with carbon fiber vinyl.

One of the more interesting things with my retrofit journey, in my opinion, is that instead of purchasing a center console trim for the iDrive controller, I opted to do some custom fiberglass/bondo work instead to make a custom trim. It sits roughly in the OEM position, and you can't really tell it's not the original iDrive trim. I covered this is carbon fiber vinyl, as I felt matching it with the brushed blue steel vinyl would be a bit overpowering for the interior.

Hope you guys enjoy!
Nate

Note: These are low-res thumbnails to keep this post neat and tidy, please click them to view the high-res photos!

Dashboard removed, scary!


Center console trim before shot, note big hole for change pocket.


After filling in the change pocket.


Shot of the underside after being filled in.


After a few fill-ins, dremeling, and block sanding.


After wrapping with vinyl, test fit!


Retrofit completed, trim installed.


Shot of steering wheel.


Bluetooth streaming, with album art .
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      05-18-2016, 12:30 PM   #8
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Bumping so I can revert back to ask you questions along this daunting task I'm about to take on. lol
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good job, but now iDrive 5.0 is out
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Did you do a lot of coding?? and what did it cost????
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Did this really happen? Wow, hats off to you sir.
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PichaDis11 NYBulldog djkevinnn jorgino @NYC_SGM_E90 (tried tagging you, forum wouldn't do it?) many thanks gentlemen, I appreciate the kind words! Ton of work, but definitely worth it in the end! Going to reply to questions/comments in the thread so far!

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Thank you for sharing. Im looking in to doing the same as you have done here so i have about 100 question lol.

Can i ask what emulator you used and what was involved as far as coding and changing the VO?

Thanks
Kris I just saw your PM, I'll PM you back but also post here so anyone else in the future will see the answers. I went with the CarSystems.com.ua adapter -- Alex there is awesome, and their products are outstanding. Custom Retro Fit .ro (take out spaces, I'm not sure why it was censored by the forum) is one of their resellers and you can purchase through them.

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Wow looks really good! Im guessing you did the install on your own? How bad was it? and How long did it take you?? Im thinking of doing the same here soon
That's right, 100% on my own! It honestly wasn't all that bad, for the entire install, including the dash swap, it was about 2 days worth of work. I could have done it all in one day, as I would leave the car to take breaks and do other things throughout the day (ADHD, yes!). I would recommend doing it for sure, it's such a huge quality of life improvement for driving -- the Dynavin N6 is great, don't get me wrong, but this looks much better and I love the OEM-ness of it all.

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Bumping so I can revert back to ask you questions along this daunting task I'm about to take on. lol
Haha, no worries Dan! When (not if!) you get started on your project, feel free to post up your questions and I'll do what I can for help, tips, and guidance. Going to bold this to grab everyone's attention -- I also don't mind shooting anyone my number for your day of install in case you have emergent questions; I know that would have been super helpful during my install, but the few snags I hit were quickly resolved through searching a few E90 pinout diagrams.

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Bump..

Did you do a lot of coding?? and what did it cost????
Not much coding involved actually, just a few VO changes and a few things with KOMBI so that the car knows to send diagnostic messages and accept/save changes to the key profile (what you normally would set through the BC menu, now goes over iDrive as well). Cost-wise, I didn't keep a complete log of what my total was, but I can roughly estimate everything (including dashboard, and not selling any extra parts) was under $1700. I am going to sell my original dash a few other extra pieces to recoup some money in the future I think!

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good job, but now iDrive 5.0 is out
Thanks brotha, I'm actually going to swap in the NBT EVO here shortly! I don't have any intentions of doing the EVO with the hand gestures, I wouldn't honestly use them -- I'm just interested in Apple CarPlay with the new NBT EVO system so that's what I'm headed for!
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