[BLUE LABEL]

That ranger rover sport is a CHICK magnet...
what do you guys think 335/M3 or Ranger Rover Sport in terms of sex appeal??
Id get the range over the 3er no questions asked.

[Jaws]

Originally Posted by BLUE LABEL

That ranger rover sport is a CHICK magnet...
what do you guys think 335/M3 or Ranger Rover Sport in terms of sex appeal??
Id get the range over the 3er no questions asked.

Sure, if if you are looking for a chick magnet. If you are looking for driving dynamics (they ride and handle like a Buick, and it's interesting to note that RR used an old Buick V8 for years), fuel economy, decent reliability and good resale -- keep looking. The only good things about RR are the looks and off-road ability. Period. At or near the bottom of every reliability report that I have ever seen.

[FirstClass]

Originally Posted by BLUE LABEL

That ranger rover sport is a CHICK magnet...
what do you guys think 335/M3 or Ranger Rover Sport in terms of sex appeal??
Id get the range over the 3er no questions asked.

Not all of us need a car to attract women.

[Coder335i]

Originally Posted by poldim

So how much will I miss my 3 if I upgrade to a 1 year old supercharged Range Rover?

For safety sake, its heavier but it will probably handle most crashes better than the 3. That car will probably also deter me from speeding as much. I have my gixxer for the speed fix.





Alternative is to get a 335i.

no comment

[BLUE LABEL]

Originally Posted by FirstClass

Not all of us need a car to attract women.

i was speaking of how the RR has ample places to store the females that have been collected.

[poldim]

Anyone have some links to some reports showing the poor reliability?

[poldim]

JD power and associates comparison

the RR isnt that much worse than the 3...

[seven_227]

Common problems that most RR owners face:

- Bonnet/Hood Flying Open
- Brake Calipers Seizing
- Check Engine Light
- Engine Quits due to Fuel Pump Failure
- Engine System Fault Message
- Front Diff Failure
- Fuel Pump Failure
- Gearbox/Transmission Noises
- Hood/Bonnet Flying Open
- Nav System Voice Interferes with Phone
- Power Loss at Highway Speeds
- Suspension Problems
- Transmission/Gearbox Rasping Noise
- Vibration Felt in Steering
- Vibration from Loudspeaker

RR Sport technical Service Bulletins:

- 20-inch Wheel Installation Limitations
- A-pillar Water Leak
- Air Suspension Connector Water Ingress
- CD Error Message During Loading
- Exterior Paint Defect Reporting
- Front Door Electrical System Malfunctions
- Fuel Filler Flap Latch Repair
- Infotainment System Diagnosis
- KIT Accessory Phone Module Fault
- Lubricant and Fluid Specifications
- Nameplate Paint Deterioration
- Parking Distance System Intermittent Operation
- Rear Brake Noise
- Removal of Transit Wiper Blades at Vehicle Preparation
- Restraint Control Module Fault Code B1A00-49
- Seat Cushion to Backrest Gap
- Steering Gear Noise
- Visibility from Side Mirror

More Problems:

- ABS Sensor Dislodgment
- Air Suspension
- Armrest Crumpled
- Battery Drained/Dead
- Brake Switch
- Climate Control Problems
- Cooling System: Low Coolant Light on
- Condensation in Tail Lights
- Differential Failure
- Door Seals Leaking
- Drivetrain Vibration
- Electrical Gremlins
- Headlight Alignment
- Idle Speed Too Fast
- Mirror (Exterior) Problems
- Navigation System Quirks
- Radiator Leak / Overflow Tank Leak
- Radio Resets to "No Station"
- Rattle in Front Suspension Off Road
- Rattle from Rear on Rough Roads
- Rattle Under Vehicle
- Satellite Radio Malfunction (2006 models)
- Seat Bottom Squeak
- Sound System Problems
- Squeaking Noise While Accelerating
- Starting Problems
- Steering Column Tilt/Telescoping Problems
- Steering Vibration
At Highway Speed
At Standstill
- Steering Wheel Problems
- Suspension (Air) Problems
- Suspension Clunking
- Tailgate Latch Problem
- Tire Problems: Noise, Uneven Wear
- Towing Peculiarities
- Transmission Shifting Problems
- Vibration Problems
- Whining Noise
- Window Control Trim Peeling
- Windshield & Front Vent Vibration/Buzzing Noise
- Windshield Wiper Bangs on "A" Pillar


EDIT: Source: http://www.rangerovers.net/

Very reliable car

[Los Angeles]

For the money, I would go with a Cayenne GTS instead of a Range Rover HSE or RR Sport.

The Cayenne GTS is better built and much faster. Not to mention better looking.

[spesrf25]

I recommend test driving a lot of different SUV's in that class. Buy the one that makes you think, "holy !@#$, this thing rocks!"

[poldim]

Originally Posted by seven_227

Common problems that most RR owners face:

- Bonnet/Hood Flying Open
- Brake Calipers Seizing
- Check Engine Light
- Engine Quits due to Fuel Pump Failure
- Engine System Fault Message
- Front Diff Failure
- Fuel Pump Failure
- Gearbox/Transmission Noises
- Hood/Bonnet Flying Open
- Nav System Voice Interferes with Phone
- Power Loss at Highway Speeds
- Suspension Problems
- Transmission/Gearbox Rasping Noise
- Vibration Felt in Steering
- Vibration from Loudspeaker

RR Sport technical Service Bulletins:

- 20-inch Wheel Installation Limitations
- A-pillar Water Leak
- Air Suspension Connector Water Ingress
- CD Error Message During Loading
- Exterior Paint Defect Reporting
- Front Door Electrical System Malfunctions
- Fuel Filler Flap Latch Repair
- Infotainment System Diagnosis
- KIT Accessory Phone Module Fault
- Lubricant and Fluid Specifications
- Nameplate Paint Deterioration
- Parking Distance System Intermittent Operation
- Rear Brake Noise
- Removal of Transit Wiper Blades at Vehicle Preparation
- Restraint Control Module Fault Code B1A00-49
- Seat Cushion to Backrest Gap
- Steering Gear Noise
- Visibility from Side Mirror

More Problems:

- ABS Sensor Dislodgment
- Air Suspension
- Armrest Crumpled
- Battery Drained/Dead
- Brake Switch
- Climate Control Problems
- Cooling System: Low Coolant Light on
- Condensation in Tail Lights
- Differential Failure
- Door Seals Leaking
- Drivetrain Vibration
- Electrical Gremlins
- Headlight Alignment
- Idle Speed Too Fast
- Mirror (Exterior) Problems
- Navigation System Quirks
- Radiator Leak / Overflow Tank Leak
- Radio Resets to "No Station"
- Rattle in Front Suspension Off Road
- Rattle from Rear on Rough Roads
- Rattle Under Vehicle
- Satellite Radio Malfunction (2006 models)
- Seat Bottom Squeak
- Sound System Problems
- Squeaking Noise While Accelerating
- Starting Problems
- Steering Column Tilt/Telescoping Problems
- Steering Vibration
At Highway Speed
At Standstill
- Steering Wheel Problems
- Suspension (Air) Problems
- Suspension Clunking
- Tailgate Latch Problem
- Tire Problems: Noise, Uneven Wear
- Towing Peculiarities
- Transmission Shifting Problems
- Vibration Problems
- Whining Noise
- Window Control Trim Peeling
- Windshield & Front Vent Vibration/Buzzing Noise
- Windshield Wiper Bangs on "A" Pillar


Very reliable car

What is the source of this info?

[seven_227]

Originally Posted by poldim

What is the source of this info?

http://www.rangerovers.net/ , sorry forgot to mention the source earlier.

[poldim]

I updated my picture to include Porsche.
Its definitely more expensive. I'd like to get a 2006 Turbo, but its a lot more closer to 70K than it is to 60.

Do you think a similar list could be found for the 3 series? What about the Cayenne?

[FirstClass]

Originally Posted by poldim

I updated my picture to include Porsche.
Its definitely more expensive. I'd like to get a 2006 Turbo, but its a lot more closer to 70K than it is to 60.

Do you think a similar list could be found for the 3 series? What about the Cayenne?

2006 Turbo? I think that's still over 100. Wasn't 2006 the first year of the 997? If it was teh last 996 then maybe they are that cheap.

[sjm]

Little input for someone who has both!

Have a '03 RR (the good one with a BMW built motor). It has been very reliable and a great vehicle for what it is intended for. I do off road it and it is more capable in the woods then any previous 4x4 I have owned. Don't think you are worried about the off road abilities of the RR though as I have never seen another new RR on the trails in Moab with me! Most are city vehicles. It hauls a ton of stuff, is very comfortable ride and a great "Truck".

Just got a E91 for my wife and it's a great car. This is our 17th BMW (have 5 currently) and BMW does continue to make them better. If you are just looking for more room, consider a BMW wagon as you get great handling and a ton of room. Our E91 hauls 4 adults in the same comfort as our RR and gets about twice the gas milage doing it. When used for fun like skiing or biking, we throw the toys on the roof of the BMW instead of inside the RR.

Bottom line, yes, you will miss your BMW as the RR is not as much fun to drive on a daily basis. You will no longer get excited when you see an empty off ramp in front of you to have a little fun with. You will be very happy with a RR as they make damn nice vehicles these days. Would recommend finding a clean, low milage '03-'05 with the BMW mechanicals as they are the most reliable vehicles ever to have a Rover badge on them. Be prepared for the pain at the gas pump (cost me $100 to fill mine this morning). Would strongly suggest you test drive a 3 or 5 series wagon as well as Audi's offerings before putting down your hard earned cash as you may find it covers all your needs. I have a very nice 540 wagon for sale (wife's previous car) that will shock you on both the performance side (thanks to Dinan) and load hauling capability!

Good luck with the decision and PM me if you want any specifics on things Rover-ish!

[poldim]

Originally Posted by FirstClass

2006 Turbo? I think that's still over 100. Wasn't 2006 the first year of the 997? If it was teh last 996 then maybe they are that cheap.

2006 Cayenne Turbo

[seven_227]

I recommend the 2008 CayenneS instead, many things have been fixed on the face lifted models.

[BMdblU]

08 X5 4.8is FTW!~!!!

[poldim]

Originally Posted by sjm

Little input for someone who has both!

Have a '03 RR (the good one with a BMW built motor). It has been very reliable and a great vehicle for what it is intended for. I do off road it and it is more capable in the woods then any previous 4x4 I have owned. Don't think you are worried about the off road abilities of the RR though as I have never seen another new RR on the trails in Moab with me! Most are city vehicles. It hauls a ton of stuff, is very comfortable ride and a great "Truck".

Just got a E91 for my wife and it's a great car. This is our 17th BMW (have 5 currently) and BMW does continue to make them better. If you are just looking for more room, consider a BMW wagon as you get great handling and a ton of room. Our E91 hauls 4 adults in the same comfort as our RR and gets about twice the gas milage doing it. When used for fun like skiing or biking, we throw the toys on the roof of the BMW instead of inside the RR.

Bottom line, yes, you will miss your BMW as the RR is not as much fun to drive on a daily basis. You will no longer get excited when you see an empty off ramp in front of you to have a little fun with. You will be very happy with a RR as they make damn nice vehicles these days. Would recommend finding a clean, low milage '03-'05 with the BMW mechanicals as they are the most reliable vehicles ever to have a Rover badge on them. Be prepared for the pain at the gas pump (cost me $100 to fill mine this morning). Would strongly suggest you test drive a 3 or 5 series wagon as well as Audi's offerings before putting down your hard earned cash as you may find it covers all your needs. I have a very nice 540 wagon for sale (wife's previous car) that will shock you on both the performance side (thanks to Dinan) and load hauling capability!

Good luck with the decision and PM me if you want any specifics on things Rover-ish!

I'm 22, so a wagon doesnt really peak my interestests...

So are the 06 SC'ed RR's really that bad in terms of reliability?

[exo-ak-dk]

Originally Posted by poldim

So how much will I miss my 3 if I upgrade to a 1 year old supercharged Range Rover?

For safety sake, its heavier but it will probably handle most crashes better than the 3. That car will probably also deter me from speeding as much. I have my gixxer for the speed fix.





Alternative is to get a 335i.

you mean how much you will miss your 3 if you downgrade to a range rover?

[Los Angeles]

Go with a Porsche Cayenne.

RR is junk as far as practical/reliable issues go.

[jlspeed29]

Originally Posted by darkcloud

Remember...

RR are made by Ford

touche' i understood that their electronics were still made by BMW tho'
a lot of them had hella electrical problems like the 7 series