Can new tires (non rft) trigger TPMS?

tomob63 · 09-17-2009, 07:26 PM

I need some info on why my TPMS sensor is indicating low pressure after removing 4 runflats and going with 4 new Mich Pilot Sport A/S on my 08 335XI.
189 rims, with staggered setup.

I left the tire shop and had the red tire low message.
I got home and did a reset. Turned off car , turned back on and I have a yellow symbol for TPMS.

In all of my reading in going from RFT to NON-RFT, I did see anything that indicated my TPMS would not work.

Do I try to reset using my BavTech tool?

I want to call the shop back as they did not do their due diligence and reset the sensors is my guess, and me resetting them through the turn signal lever only shut off the low tire warning.

jopa489 · 09-17-2009, 07:28 PM

Have you tested the pressures yourself, to see what's going on? Don't rely solely on the TPMS.

tomob63 · 09-17-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jopa489

Have you tested the pressures yourself, to see what's going on? Don't rely solely on the TPMS.

Pressure checks out clean:

Front 32
Rear 35

I did the reset again, powered off and then on again and still get the yellow TPMS symbol. I warned the shop to be careful. Hope they didn't whack one of my new TMPS sensors.

batmobl · 09-17-2009, 07:50 PM

I recently got 189 rims and got non runflats. When you reset your TPMS, it will take a good 6-7 mins for the TPMS to reset (at least that's what happened in my case).

tomob63 · 09-17-2009, 08:04 PM

thx for info so far. I just ran a full diagnostic with my BavTech. It comes up clean. Perhaps the pressure of 32/35 is too low for these tires.

I'm going to check on Michelin site for recommended pressure. The NTB dealer went off what was on my door tag, but my original tires on my 335xi were different than the bridgestone RE050a's I was running on 189 rims.

I'll keep looking. Just hate to have to take it to the dealer now if I cannot resolve myself.

smallseafishie · 09-17-2009, 08:10 PM

you have to drive the car to reset the TMPS as well...

JDLM · 09-17-2009, 08:17 PM

TPMS could be broken inside or installed wrong, that happened to me (plus they have a screw on them that was backing itself off)

GMWNashville · 09-17-2009, 09:28 PM

yea..drive the car...

cb1111 · 09-17-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JDLM

TPMS could be broken inside or installed wrong, that happened to me (plus they have a screw on them that was backing itself off)

...or not installed at all.

cb1111 · 09-17-2009, 09:31 PM

Inflate the tires to about 35/38 and see what happens.

tomob63 · 09-17-2009, 09:36 PM

I set my pressure to 36 psi for all 4 tires and will try the reset again when driving. NTB did not take apart or remove the sensors so they should be functional. Odd thing is when I press the stalk to do the Rese t it does not return with a Reset and a checkmark. See the choice for Resetting. Odd.

Castel · 09-18-2009, 11:30 AM

Reset the TPMS standing still. Then you drive around for the system to calibrate itself. No need to rise the pressure, the sensor measures the pressure which is independent of the tire, so 32/35 should work.

khaye1 · 09-18-2009, 02:42 PM

restting the tpms will establish a new baseline...so adding more air really is not necessarry. reset and drive, it should go away after a few seconds. now if you get it again after that then you have an issue. also take note on the colors of the tpms indicators. if one is yellow and the bigger display is red then you have a low psi, if it's both yellow then you have a broken tpms.

bavarianx · 09-18-2009, 07:13 PM

sounds like a broken or damaged sensor.

CollinsE90 · 09-18-2009, 07:30 PM

yellow means sensor, red means low pressure

pruettfan · 09-19-2009, 02:16 AM

Air pressure it air pressure regardless of tire construction. The issue is in the system. Likely a wrongly installed sensor, failure to reset the system or that the pressure in the tire is simply too low.

Orient330iNYC · 09-19-2009, 10:23 AM

the system wont reset unless you drive around after selecting reset from the computer. the sensors go to sleep after a few minutes stationary to conserve battery, so they wont be transmitting.

tomob63 · 09-19-2009, 11:53 AM

Thank you everyone for the input. Got it resolved.
Reset it running and drove off. Yellow light finallly went away.
Enjoying the new non-runflats now.

pruettfan · 09-19-2009, 02:14 PM

Glad it worked out. Let us know how you like the conventional tires versus the RFT's once you get some miles to compare.

09-17-2009, 07:26 PM	#1
tomob63 Captain 31 Rep 708 Posts Drives: 2015 335i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Illinois iTrader: (14)	Can new tires (non rft) trigger TPMS? I need some info on why my TPMS sensor is indicating low pressure after removing 4 runflats and going with 4 new Mich Pilot Sport A/S on my 08 335XI. 189 rims, with staggered setup. I left the tire shop and had the red tire low message. I got home and did a reset. Turned off car , turned back on and I have a yellow symbol for TPMS. In all of my reading in going from RFT to NON-RFT, I did see anything that indicated my TPMS would not work. Do I try to reset using my BavTech tool? I want to call the shop back as they did not do their due diligence and reset the sensors is my guess, and me resetting them through the turn signal lever only shut off the low tire warning.
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09-17-2009, 07:28 PM	#2
jopa489 Major General 122 Rep 6,594 Posts Drives: Anything with Wheels Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (9)	Have you tested the pressures yourself, to see what's going on? Don't rely solely on the TPMS. __________________ X7 LCI // Incoming C7 ZR1 ZTK // Sebring + TRX // Hydro + Raptor Gen1 Roush // Tuxedo
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09-17-2009, 07:50 PM	#4
batmobl Private 3 Rep 64 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	I recently got 189 rims and got non runflats. When you reset your TPMS, it will take a good 6-7 mins for the TPMS to reset (at least that's what happened in my case). __________________ 2008 e90 Jet Black/auto/prem/nav/comfort/usb-ipod/sat/35% 3M tint/189 18" rims
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09-17-2009, 08:04 PM	#5
tomob63 Captain 31 Rep 708 Posts Drives: 2015 335i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Illinois iTrader: (14)	thx for info so far. I just ran a full diagnostic with my BavTech. It comes up clean. Perhaps the pressure of 32/35 is too low for these tires. I'm going to check on Michelin site for recommended pressure. The NTB dealer went off what was on my door tag, but my original tires on my 335xi were different than the bridgestone RE050a's I was running on 189 rims. I'll keep looking. Just hate to have to take it to the dealer now if I cannot resolve myself.
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09-17-2009, 08:10 PM	#6
smallseafishie Colonel 110 Rep 2,017 Posts Drives: AW 07 e92 335i + AW 11 X5 35d Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta GA iTrader: (13) Garage List 2007 E92 335i [0.00]	you have to drive the car to reset the TMPS as well...
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09-17-2009, 08:17 PM	#7
JDLM Banned 73 Rep 3,277 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Sedan Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kansas iTrader: (4)	TPMS could be broken inside or installed wrong, that happened to me (plus they have a screw on them that was backing itself off)
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GMWNashville Colonel 172 Rep 2,373 Posts Drives: 19 G05, 16 F80, 10 E70x5D Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nashville, TN iTrader: (2)	yea..drive the car...
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09-17-2009, 09:31 PM	#10
cb1111 I ask the questions you're afraid to ask. 44 Rep 2,489 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: DC iTrader: (2)	Inflate the tires to about 35/38 and see what happens.
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09-17-2009, 09:36 PM	#11
tomob63 Captain 31 Rep 708 Posts Drives: 2015 335i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Illinois iTrader: (14)	I set my pressure to 36 psi for all 4 tires and will try the reset again when driving. NTB did not take apart or remove the sensors so they should be functional. Odd thing is when I press the stalk to do the Rese t it does not return with a Reset and a checkmark. See the choice for Resetting. Odd.
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09-18-2009, 11:30 AM	#12
Castel Captain 71 Rep 801 Posts Drives: Tanzanite Blue '13 E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (6)	Reset the TPMS standing still. Then you drive around for the system to calibrate itself. No need to rise the pressure, the sensor measures the pressure which is independent of the tire, so 32/35 should work.
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09-18-2009, 02:42 PM	#13
khaye1 Colonel 145 Rep 2,809 Posts Drives: 18 AW F80 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego iTrader: (8)	restting the tpms will establish a new baseline...so adding more air really is not necessarry. reset and drive, it should go away after a few seconds. now if you get it again after that then you have an issue. also take note on the colors of the tpms indicators. if one is yellow and the bigger display is red then you have a low psi, if it's both yellow then you have a broken tpms. __________________
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09-18-2009, 07:13 PM	#14
bavarianx Colonel 224 Rep 2,103 Posts Drives: 2006 X5 4.4i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (18)	sounds like a broken or damaged sensor.
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09-18-2009, 07:30 PM	#15
CollinsE90 Where my bitches 743 Rep 1,924 Posts Drives: Cadillac coupe deville Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: street corner checking profits iTrader: (0)	yellow means sensor, red means low pressure __________________
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09-19-2009, 02:16 AM	#16
pruettfan Brigadier General 1622 Rep 3,402 Posts Drives: 2017 M2, LBB, DCT, Exec Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ iTrader: (0)	Air pressure it air pressure regardless of tire construction. The issue is in the system. Likely a wrongly installed sensor, failure to reset the system or that the pressure in the tire is simply too low.
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09-19-2009, 10:23 AM	#17
Orient330iNYC Brigadier General 1469 Rep 3,552 Posts Drives: 2023 X7 40i Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wall St iTrader: (2)	the system wont reset unless you drive around after selecting reset from the computer. the sensors go to sleep after a few minutes stationary to conserve battery, so they wont be transmitting. __________________ Present: 2023 G07 40i ZDH/ZDU/ZMP/ZMQ/2NH/ZPK/ZPP/ZRC/300/3AC Past: 2013 335i 6MT ZMM/ZDH/ZTP/3AG/494/508 Past: 2016 F34 335i xDrive ZCW/ZDA/ZDH/ZTP/ZMP/2V5/5DL Past: 2019 G01 M40i ZDA/2VF/ZPP/ZPX/688/3AC
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09-19-2009, 11:53 AM	#18
tomob63 Captain 31 Rep 708 Posts Drives: 2015 335i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Illinois iTrader: (14)	Thank you everyone for the input. Got it resolved. Reset it running and drove off. Yellow light finallly went away. Enjoying the new non-runflats now.
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09-19-2009, 02:14 PM	#19
pruettfan Brigadier General 1622 Rep 3,402 Posts Drives: 2017 M2, LBB, DCT, Exec Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ iTrader: (0)	Glad it worked out. Let us know how you like the conventional tires versus the RFT's once you get some miles to compare.
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