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**Bluetooth Retrofit Guide** for TCU and ULF
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05-04-2013, 04:37 PM | #464 |
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To troubleshoot your issue, do you have access to NCS and an OBD cable?
I havent read through the thread, so please help me out here.. Do you have the iDrive? If yes, can you send me the CIC.trc file? else, it will be the RAD2. In general, if you have a combox, the mic is wired to the combox , and the radio expects the mic signals to come via MOST.. It could be that while coding, the mic might be set to as being directly connected to the radio, which is not the case.. |
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05-21-2013, 11:58 AM | #466 |
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new to the forum, and I have honestly spent the past three days reviewing a lot of threads on here. Unfortunately, I'm none the wiser to the answer to my question. I hope you don't mind my posting here. I have the below spec, and would really like to add iphone integration to allow me to make / receive calls, play music and control the iphone via the cars controls. A plus would be to have the track information on the display, but its not an absolute. Code Description (EPC) S609A Navigation system Professional S694A Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer S8SBA Telematics access request,country-spec. S8SCA Telematics access request,country-spec. Many thanks for any help or pointers you can suggest. Thanks soulfunk |
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05-21-2013, 03:33 PM | #468 | |
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was your post up there a response to my question, or another? Also, if I wanted to stick with BMW OEM retrofit, what parts / kits would I need? Thanks soulfunk |
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05-21-2013, 03:47 PM | #469 | |
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If you wanted an OEM retrofit, you'd get: MULF USB socket+wiring Mic Mic wiring Bluetooth antenna iPod Y cable 30pin adapter (if you've got an iPhone 5). All in all, that's not less than $500 worth of stuff, probably more like 6-7, and you get: Bluetooth handsfree (no streaming) Music playing from a USB drive Wired music from your iDevice with headunit integration + wheel controls No charging from the car's USB port. Must use Y cable. On the other hand, you could get a Denison Gateway 500s BT http://www.dension.com/news/gateway500s-bt which gets you Bluetooth handsfree+streaming Music from a USB drive Wired music from iDevice, or android, or whatever, with headunit integration and wheel control Charging up to 1A (and I think the thing might have 2 USB ports as well, presumably one for a thumb drive or hard drive and one for your phone) Can use normal white USB cable if iPhone, or micro-USB if android and the full install kit is something like $530 or $550. Basically, I don't know of any reasons why the gateway isn't a strictly better solution than true OEM.
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05-21-2013, 04:11 PM | #470 | |
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thanks for the quick response. By the sounds of it, the Gateway kit looks like the one. I'll check this out. Thank you! soulfunk |
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05-21-2013, 04:32 PM | #471 |
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I'd see if you can find someone local who has one to meet up with just to chat. I'd like to see how it works and whatnot before I plunked down that kind of cash. But I'm quite sure it's a better option than a MULF retrofit.
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05-22-2013, 12:07 PM | #472 | |
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Thanks Alex, sounds sensible. I've spoken to a local reseller, who is going to price this up for me, and says he has one of these fitted to a Porsche, that I could see for myself. Not ideal, as its a different car, but at least I get a look at how far it'll integrate. I've also heard back from a mate of mine who works with BMW, and tells me that according to my VIN, I will need the following bits; BT integration - 269.00 GBP iphone Integration - 336.00 GBP iphone cradle - 90 GBP; total 695.00 GBP Not sure what the part numbers are but if i can get a discount on this pricing, it shouldnt be too far out of the costs for the Dension. If the costs were similiar for both, would it make more sense to go with OEM retrofit? I'm just thinking that the functionality would be better? Thanks for any thoughts, and apologies for flogging a dead horse. |
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05-22-2013, 02:10 PM | #473 | ||
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But anyway, not needing the phone cradle should save you 90 squids right there. As far as the other two quotes, those are retrofit kits containing many parts, but I don't know what each contains . If I had to guess, BT contains Mic, mic wiring, and maybe antenna wiring for the cradle. iPhone integration contains the MULF, and probably only the MULF. Depending on what wiring they have, it then becomes a question of whether your car is prewired for this stuff. I think all are for the MULF or TCU, but many AREN'T prewired for phone. Particularly, after MY 2008, they stopped including phone prewiring. But that's on US cars, I'm no expert on Euro cars. Can you run your VIN through something like http://bmwvin.com/ and report back? Quote:
Anyway the reason I suggest this is because I think the integration look and feel is pretty much the same between the dension gateway and a MULF, except that the gateway has a better feature set. I am not 100% certain on that, though. It'd be a bummer to find out that the gateway doesn't show you track names or something (but I'm pretty sure it does). And no worries! It helps to know what you're buying when you spend half a G, and there's no industry where it's harder to be sure about that than cars.
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05-23-2013, 09:36 AM | #475 | |
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Alex, you are Gent. I've just run the vehicle vin through the online tool and get the attached; Code Description (EPC) S1CAA Selection of COP-relevant vehicles S205A Automatic transmission S240A Steering wheel, leather S249A Multifunction f steering wheel S2BHA BMW alloy wheel, double spoke 156 S302A Alarm system S321A Exterior parts in vehicle colour S403A Glass roof, electrical S428A Warning triangle and first aid kit S431A Interior mirror with automatic-dip S441A Smoker package S4ACA Fine wood trim Poplar woodgrain S507A Park Distance Control (PDC), rear S520A Fog lights S521A Rain sensor Code Description (EPC) S534A Automatic air conditioning S540A Cruise control S563A Light package S609A Navigation system Professional S694A Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer L812A National version England / Ireland S850A Additional Export tank filling S863A Dealer List Europe S877A Omission of non-combined operation S880A On-board literature, English S8SBA Telematics access request,country-spec. S8SCA Telematics access request,country-spec. S8SMA Car ident. number visible from outside S8SPA Control unit COP S9AAA Outer skin protection Standard equipment Code Description (EPC) S853A Language version, English Based on the above, do I have the requisite wiring to support what I want to do? Also, not wanting to regurgitate information already posted somewhere, would you be aware of a useful post / thread that I should review to understand more about what is a MULF or a combobox? Once again, many thanks for all your help. soulfunk Last edited by soulfunk; 05-29-2013 at 10:49 AM.. |
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05-31-2013, 05:17 PM | #477 |
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You aren't phone pre-wired, but can you get a shot of the wiring under your trunk floor liner? That should be revealing. In general, the dension should come with all the wiring you need for everything, but I don't know about that. If you go MULF, you probably won't need wiring for that itself (the pic will reveal), but you probably WILL need aftermarket wiring for the mic, and OEM wiring for the USB socket.
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06-03-2013, 05:10 PM | #478 | |
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Thanks for the response. Bad news unfortunately. Checking under the trunk lining reveals no cabling whatsoever, which fits with your comments, unless I'm looking in the wrong place! I'm guessing getting that wiring run will be more cost than is warranted. I'll investigate the Dension options! I can't seem to upload a pic right now, will try again from a PC. Thx Soulfunk |
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06-03-2013, 06:23 PM | #479 |
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You could be. Did you lift the liner out totally, looking under the section behind the bend where there are obvious bolts for mounting brackets?
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06-04-2013, 04:10 PM | #480 |
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Hi Alex,
I believe so, I completely removed the boot liner and saw nothing, unless I'm looking in the wrong area? See picture attached. Many thanks Soulfunk |
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06-04-2013, 04:13 PM | #481 | |
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I'm not actually sure how you'd even retrofit stock bluetooth into a car with nav, but without MULF or combox wiring. Newer headunits include all the provisions for satellite radio, bluetooth, and USB, but I don't know where that works in with nav. Perhaps someone else has something more enlightening. You could always, for giggles, try coding in $644 and see what happens
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06-06-2013, 04:01 PM | #482 | |
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By the way, coding $644, what will that do? Thanks |
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06-06-2013, 04:19 PM | #483 |
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On the off chance your nav already has Bluetooth hardware, coding that in would let you pair your phone, indicating that the only thing you need is a mic. If you plan to code yourself and get the cable, it's effectively a free and (relatively) easy test.
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06-10-2013, 09:34 AM | #484 | |
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that sounds interesting, and certainly worth a punt. Any reccomendations on where to start looking at learning coding? Thx Soulfunk. |
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