[PKL]

Originally Posted by PAMidge

You didn't know that the parts are marked up and you can often get 15-20% off just by asking?

The only thing I can recall ever buying at a parts counter are a slimline plate frame and a car cover which I got 20% off anyway because I had purchased a car.

But more importantly, please let us know how the drive is with the tune. Mine will come with the tune from the factory... 3 more weeks or so!

[FunRevn]

+1

[Professor///M]

A few words & first impressions:

1. Price - $1,200 installed, including tax. I was able to negotiate $100 off. So $1,300 for others

a. Given that the only other part I ever had retrofitted before was an alarm on my 2007 e90 ($299 from factory, $750 retrofitted) I can appreciate that there will be a price difference between the factory & retrofits.

b. Since I had considered the full PPK (Hardware + Software) and was quoted over $2,500, although disappointed that it wasn't close to the factory $550, I was happy that it was less than 1/2 the cost of the full PPK


First Impressions - disclaimer - I'm the first one to admit that you can't really appreciate differences in vehicles just by "feeling it". This is truly anecdotal, and given that I'm not interested in ever putting my car on a dyno take that into consideration when reading my review.

a. I didn't realize I ever had turbo lag. I now have immediate power at very low RPMs. This was the first noticeable difference from stock. I can honestly say I definitely don't have any turbo lag, although I didn't think I ever had any - boy I was wrong.

b. Ground was wet, so didn't go crazy.

c. The gains were definitely noticeable, especially with the low end torque. I have an XI so wheelspin isn't typical, but in DTC mode I was able to get some wheelspin. I have yet to play around with DSC completely disabled.

d. I agree with the other post thus far, there is no "throw you back in your seat" moment, but again, it was wet and sloppy out so I didn't really push it to its limits.

e. The difference was also noticeable when accelerating between 40 & 80mph. I was about 10mph faster than I expected to be when I looked down at the speedometer after a brisk acceleration.

Summary -

The PPK Retrofit is a fast, easy, and warrantee-d way to give your 335 a little performance boost. For 20hp and 33tq, I agree that this is a good value if you were to build your vehicle with the "Performance Edition Kit". It is as close to a 335is as you can get from the factory, obviously minus the DCT and over boost.

As a retrofit - I'd only really recommend it to owners. I spent a pretty penny on my vehicle, and an even prettier penny on the extended warranty for 7 years.

If you lease your vehicle, save your bucks and buy one of the AM tunes. You can't go wrong with $300-700 for up to 60-70hp. My motto though is "you get what you pay for" and I'm sure none of the vendors would step up to the plate if your vehicle was damaged as a result of their tune (except Dinan, but that's another story). From what I read they all have fantastic customer support, but I would never expect them to say "yeah, sounds like my tune did that to your car, we'll fix it" - especially if BMWNA blames it on the tune.

If you own your vehicle, this is a great way to get a little bit more performance, and the security that BMW will back its product through the extent of the warranty. I'm sure it will retain its value dollar for dollar out of the factory, $0.50/$1 if you get the retrofit.


Overall I'm happy with my decision. But then again people value different things. I'd rather pay more and have this covered the full 7 years of my warranty, than have a problem with a cheaper solution that provides more performance gains. You may want the product that gives you the best $$ per hp.

Hope this helped. Bottom line for me is that this should be the way the 335 performs right out of the factory, and it's a bit disappointing to have to pay for it.

[PKL]

Great write-up man, for what it is. Appreciate you sharing your feelings! I WANT MY CAR!!!

[Professor///M]

Originally Posted by PKL

Great write-up man, for what it is. Appreciate you sharing your feelings! I WANT MY CAR!!!

No problem. You should be very happy with this, it's how the car should have came out of the factory.

[kettasii]

Got two quotes today. One dealer quoted $985 for the kit, and $360 for labor. Another quoted $599, and $164 for labor. Shop around.

[335ic_Black]

Originally Posted by kettasii

Got two quotes today. One dealer quoted $985 for the kit, and $360 for labor. Another quoted $599, and $164 for labor. Shop around.

where was the second quote from? Seems to be a good price so far from what others have reported.

[kettasii]

Originally Posted by 335ic_Black

where was the second quote from? Seems to be a good price so far from what others have reported.

You can find it on just about any dealer's web site. Find the Accessories page and search for power kit. Don't assume they know though. I think this is the case where the information has not filtered down to everybody yet. There is a lot of confusion. Wait a bit if you don't get a reasonable quote.

Last time I checked, BMW of Mountain View website shows installed price of $851, East Bay BMW shows $779.40, and Stevens Creek BMW shows $792.80 installed. Also BMW of Moutain View is going to send out emails to their clients. $799.95 Plus tax.

Check out this link for more dissusions.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=587465&page=8

[x26]

Originally Posted by 111R

I know that some here don't really care, but I wonder what effect if any this mod with have on gas mileage?

The press release says "NONE"...

[Professor///M]

Originally Posted by x26

The press release says "NONE"...

Actually in some situations I have been getting BETTER gas mileage than before - i.e. in D on the Highway...


But then again it's very easy to get carried away with the extra power that it equals itself out.

[111R]

Actually in some situations I have been getting BETTER gas mileage than before - i.e. in D on the Highway...

I'm noticing the same thing with my manual car in around town driving.

[hikoreanboy]

I went to the dealer inquiring about PPK for my 09 335ix, but my car did not qualify because it was built without a speed limiter. And of course, a speed limiter is not installable after the fact

Make sure your car has the speed limiter before ordering the parts!

[SixShotEspressO]

where is the 335d PI package???????

[dr-wall]

Hi, I bought one of these new and love it. Much better handling and quality in my opinion than the F30.
This is my first turbo car....I knew that turbo cars from the 80's had oil coking problems due to lack of intercooler and didn't think the newer cars were afflicted.
Watching an auto program, their mechanic said that any turbo car should be idled for at least a minute prior to shut off to allow the turbo to slow and cool down...even with today's cars.
How many of you out there do this? A minute doesn't seem long but I get weird stares in the parking lots. If it saves the turbo great!!
Is this necessary?

thanks,
Walter

[Bimmer28312]

Why can't I find this on any bay area BMW dealerships. Can someone provide me a link to Mt view or Fremont??

[SlimE92]

Originally Posted by dr-wall

Hi, I bought one of these new and love it. Much better handling and quality in my opinion than the F30.
This is my first turbo car....I knew that turbo cars from the 80's had oil coking problems due to lack of intercooler and didn't think the newer cars were afflicted.
Watching an auto program, their mechanic said that any turbo car should be idled for at least a minute prior to shut off to allow the turbo to slow and cool down...even with today's cars.
How many of you out there do this? A minute doesn't seem long but I get weird stares in the parking lots. If it saves the turbo great!!
Is this necessary?

thanks,
Walter

I let my turbos cool down before I turn the car off to. (When I remember lol) usually about 2-5 mins after a good highway run