[Flex68]

Sooooooo when do Wagner coolers go on sale cause I need one ??? LOL

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Flex68

Sooooooo when do Wagner coolers go on sale cause I need one ??? LOL

In response to this thread:

We have special coupon "madeinchina" for anyone interested .

[Rory]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

In response to this thread:

We have special coupon "madeinchina" for anyone interested .

20 yen discount

[335inDe]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

That's your opinion but opinions don't work well when facts show the actual performance differences between A and B.

Since you've compared neither personally nor provided any data your opinion on the matter really has no merit.

As I keep saying, stick with facts and take out your opinion (AKA alternative agenda).

We are not upset at all about offering a proven quality product that performs.

By the way, the "data" you provided shows nothing. There aren't many companies today that don't outsource at least some aspect of materials from China.

Likely the same device your using to reply with was made in China...

All I can say is wow. I posted a Bill of Laden and you still ramble on. You should spend this time researching your companies you sell to the public instead of sitting here arguing with a customer in defense mode because you carry a misrepresented product. I don't care where shit is made but be honest about it..that's the only point here. I wouldn't personally buy any of the intercoolers mentioned in this thread so I'm the last one with an agenda here.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

In response to this thread:

We have special coupon "madeinchina" for anyone interested .

You got me excited I was gonna order 5 more intercoolers to replace my windows.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by 335inDe

All I can say is wow. I posted a Bill of Laden and you still ramble on. You should spend this time researching your companies you sell to the public instead of sitting here arguing with a customer in defense mode because you carry a misrepresented product. I don't care where shit is made but be honest about it..that's the only point here. I wouldn't personally buy any of the intercoolers mentioned in this thread so I'm the last one with an agenda here.

Bill Laden? Is that Osama's 3rd removed cousin?

[335inDe]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Bill Laden? Is that Osama's 3rd removed cousin?

LMFAO now that's funny! Lading sorry

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Flex68

Sooooooo when do Wagner coolers go on sale cause I need one ??? LOL

LOL

Check the vendor section for Wagner deals

[mike@x-ph.com]

335inDe you started your posts by saying you have the original manufacturer of all 4 brands and have proof,etc ... Now that we know you dont and you just have a company that makes replicas you shifted the subject and now are looking on online sites for data

I said in my first post on this thread that Wagner get silicone hoses and couplers from China

The bill you showed is exactly that ... you think 3 boxes weighing in at 285 kg is for intercoolers? We get a bigger shipment for our warehouse only

An intercooler shipment for Wagner is about 15 000 kg btw

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

You got me excited I was gonna order 5 more intercoolers to replace my windows.

Lol

Originally Posted by 335inDe

All I can say is wow. I posted a Bill of Laden and you still ramble on. You should spend this time researching your companies you sell to the public instead of sitting here arguing with a customer in defense mode because you carry a misrepresented product. I don't care where shit is made but be honest about it..that's the only point here. I wouldn't personally buy any of the intercoolers mentioned in this thread so I'm the last one with an agenda here.

I think you are just back peddling now.

If you have a problem with misrepresentation talk to said company in question and file the legal paperwork if it's that much worth it to you.

As a side note, I'd be more concerned with your source for misrepresentation of several brands and making blatant knock offs of patented products.

So far you've still proved nothing.

But I digress. Keep believing what you want to believe. Everyone else can see with full clarity your true agenda and nobody has any problems or regrets about their Wagner FMIC.

[335inDe]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Lol


I think you are just back peddling now.

If you have a problem with misrepresentation talk to said company in question and file the legal paperwork if it's that much worth it to you.

As a side note, I'd be more concerned with your source for misrepresentation of several brands and making blatant knock offs of patented products.

So far you've still proved nothing.

But I digress. Keep believing what you want to believe. Everyone else can see with full clarity your true agenda and nobody has any problems or regrets about their Wagner FMIC.

Please tell me my agenda. I have popcorn here and would love to kick back and listen to this. Like I said if I find out I'm wrong I will be the first to admit it. Let's not forget that no one has had any proof otherwise as of yet? The only people arguing back are the ones that make money off of this company.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by 335inDe

Please tell me my agenda. I have popcorn here and would love to kick back and listen to this. Like I said if I find out I'm wrong I will be the first to admit it. Let's not forget that no one has had any proof otherwise as of yet? The only people arguing back are the ones that make money off of this company.

So far your posts were for entertaining purposes.

I have nothing to prove as I'm not the non believer.

You can talk all the crap you want about Wagner, it's not my company and your little remarks accusations will not change a thing for those wanting a quality proven product that performs.

It seems you are now looking for someone else to do the dirty work.

I'm not worried and neither is wagner.

A 635lb pallet doesn't prove anything, yet. That's about 20 intercoolers. Which is a sample pallet. It could be anything from research to checking out the competition. It could even be them ordering a knock off intercooler just to catch the scammers in the act.

You've proved nothing about the thousands of intercoolers they ship a year.

You didn't prove these intercoolers are going to actual consumers.

I had several intercoolers ship from Germany in the past few weeks...

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Evolution Racewerks

Pretty sure there are more made in the US but I know this one for sure is

AMS is also made in USA, and ER is 100% made in USA. I have seen the ER team make the FMICs with my own eyes so there is no disputing ER. The others I can't speak to as I have no first hand knowledge but I was told by the guys at Wagner that they are made in Germany.

Mike

[Red_Bean_Bun]

Originally Posted by 335inDe

All I can say is wow. I posted a Bill of Laden and you still ramble on. You should spend this time researching your companies you sell to the public instead of sitting here arguing with a customer in defense mode because you carry a misrepresented product. I don't care where shit is made but be honest about it..that's the only point here. I wouldn't personally buy any of the intercoolers mentioned in this thread so I'm the last one with an agenda here.

It looked like you just made a hell of a lot of publicity for Chinese companies that makes replicas. Now all the cheapos know where we can get knock offs.

Even if it was made in China instead of Germany - Did they design the FMIC ?

I think you should stop driving a BMW - last I heard BMW got the Chinese companies to make a whole bunch of parts and some of it made it into the engines. BMW misrepresented their product and you should sell your BMW and stop being a customer in troll mode.

[A418t81]

I installed an Evo 2 performance on my 335is about 3 weeks ago and I echo the sentiment by the OP. I didn't remove my bumper, and there wasn't a ton of cutting needed on my end. I also didn't disconnect any of the coolant hoses. This is my third 335 I've installed an FMIC on, and there's A LOT more in the way of the IC pipes on the driver's side with the accessory cooling and DCT lines than there is on other models with manual transmissions.

IAT deltas I've logged are the same as the OP has seen. The IC being heavy adds a lot of thermal reserve and you can really put your foot off in it for quite a while before there's really any significant IAT rise, and certainly nothing ever approaching stock FMIC performance. I got mine for a great deal from Mike during their March sale. Worth. every. penny.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by A418t81

I installed an Evo 2 performance on my 335is about 3 weeks ago and I echo the sentiment by the OP. I didn't remove my bumper, and there wasn't a ton of cutting needed on my end. I also didn't disconnect any of the coolant hoses. This is my third 335 I've installed an FMIC on, and there's A LOT more in the way of the IC pipes on the driver's side with the accessory cooling and DCT lines than there is on other models with manual transmissions.

IAT deltas I've logged are the same as the OP has seen. The IC being heavy adds a lot of thermal reserve and you can really put your foot off in it for quite a while before there's really any significant IAT rise, and certainly nothing ever approaching stock FMIC performance. I got mine for less than $700 shipped from Mike during their March deal. Worth. every. penny.

Nice! We removed the bumper and disconnected the piping for ease of work.

And now that you mention it, I was actually logging data on my way to work this morning (highway) and noticed that my IATs actually started DROPPING when I floored the car. Needless to say, I'm very pleased with the product I can also vouch for the prices Mike had!

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

You guys paid too much!

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by A418t81

I installed an Evo 2 performance on my 335is about 3 weeks ago and I echo the sentiment by the OP. I didn't remove my bumper, and there wasn't a ton of cutting needed on my end. I also didn't disconnect any of the coolant hoses. This is my third 335 I've installed an FMIC on, and there's A LOT more in the way of the IC pipes on the driver's side with the accessory cooling and DCT lines than there is on other models with manual transmissions.

IAT deltas I've logged are the same as the OP has seen. The IC being heavy adds a lot of thermal reserve and you can really put your foot off in it for quite a while before there's really any significant IAT rise, and certainly nothing ever approaching stock FMIC performance. I got mine for a great deal from Mike during their March sale. Worth. every. penny.

Glad to see you are happy with the purchase

Do you have any pics of the FMIC?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Nice! We removed the bumper and disconnected the piping for ease of work.

And now that you mention it, I was actually logging data on my way to work this morning (highway) and noticed that my IATs actually started DROPPING when I floored the car. Needless to say, I'm very pleased with the product I can also vouch for the prices Mike had!

Sweet

[SlimE92]

Originally Posted by 335inDe

Wow you just keep pushing trying to defend Wagner. You must sell them? If so id be pissed to that I sell a product to loyal enthusiasts misrepresented. Does Wagner work and perform has never been the question. The question are they worth almost double say a VRSF? I said my personal opinion is no.

Gotta love the Internet. At the type of some key strokes u have a company's info sheesh.