[Chris J]

I love the stuff and I think it works great. But, its frickin expensive! There is another company that makes a wheel gel (the only other one I have ever found) out of Corona CA. Its called Mark V products. They make a wheel gel that is green (looks just like p21s) that is safe to use on all wheels. I have tried on it on pure aluminum wheels, black wheels, powder coated wheels, chrome wheels etc. Never had a problem with it at all. Did it in the sun, did it in the shade..still no problems. The wheels come out just as clean as p21s and I think its only like 15 dollars for a whole gallon!

[jopa489]

P21s is expensive but you can dilute it and still get great results. Soap/water does the trick just fine most of the time, especially if the car is taken care of and (even better) has a good coat of PB Wheel Wax on the wheels. I'd only use non-diluted P21s on really dirty wheels.

[rotaryboy]

Right...I rarely use the P21s. Mostly in the winter when I go a few weeks between washes and the brakes dust is pretty heavy. Generally soap/water does the job.

[SpecC]

majestic solutions super green stuff

1 gallon for 12 + shipping

dilute 3:1

add 1-2 oz of a thick soap like chemical guys citrus wash and gloss or clear to give it some clinging power

works just as well as p21s wheel gel to me, and it is cheaper, and it smells nicer, and it has more uses!

[Craig@SupremePower]

good 2 know!!

Originally Posted by SpecC

majestic solutions super green stuff

1 gallon for 12 + shipping

dilute 3:1

add 1-2 oz of a thick soap like chemical guys citrus wash and gloss or clear to give it some clinging power

works just as well as p21s wheel gel to me, and it is cheaper, and it smells nicer, and it has more uses!

[zaxjax]

Mark V has some decent stuff. Try Amazing Roll Off as a cleaner. I think Autogeek had it on sale for 6.99