Vredestien Ultrac Sessanta

SixDegrees · 03-02-2009, 02:40 PM

Ok, more a general discussion about the tread pattern and potentail performance / issues with the Sessanta tyres.

Seems a bit odd to me that the tread isn't mirrored side-to-side but instead the tyres go on the same way and hence you get the 'up-side-down' look on one side.

Surely, if one side is pressing the water outwards and the other inwards you get difference grips / performance characteristics.

Anyone else think this? Anyone have any experience with them or knw a thing or 2 about tyre tread and what-not?

Thanks

SD

trixman · 03-02-2009, 03:07 PM

I have them on mine, good summer tyres but proving terrible in the wet for me at least. I quite literally 'slide' across the white markers in the road, quite worrying when your going round a bend in the wet and the big arrow sign sends you skating across the road.

Other than they they are great. Good grip in the dry, good looking and reasonably cheap

rsyed · 03-02-2009, 03:09 PM

i had them on my e60, i have them now on ym e90 - i love them. they look great, tehy perform well, but hey - it does not mean i took them on the track...

marriedblonde · 03-02-2009, 03:13 PM

Got them on my coupe, had them on my z4 coupe before that. No issues with them, covered about 25K miles on them so far.

Strangely I've not had any issues with them in the wet either...

J.

G33 · 03-02-2009, 03:14 PM

Im also surprised, i find them really grippy in the wet!

Yahoo · 03-02-2009, 04:16 PM

Fantastic tyres - £ for £ the best out there IMO. I haven't had any issues with them at all. I agree that the tyre tread does seem to lack symmetry, but they do work very well.

remmib · 03-02-2009, 04:44 PM

I've have them too. And I find the grip very good in the wet.

Hoops · 03-03-2009, 04:02 AM

I will stick my neck on the line here and state that i think i was the first, if not then one of the very first, to put these tyres on an E90 and talk about them on here!! But who cares Steve?? In a few words.... FUCKING AWSOME TYRE!! There, hows that for an honest opinion!!? I first put these tyres on my 335i (the very 335i that Trixman now owns!) - and i thought they were fantastic when i owned the car. I wonder whether the road surface in Spain has something to do with them not performing in the wet - i have ridden my bikes many times in Spain and whenever it rains its like an ice rink down there - i was told it had something to do with the makeup of tarmac over there and the climate etc?? Regardless - i found them very competent in the wet and really quite awsome in the dry. So good in fact that i had them fitted to the 997 C2S when i put the GT3 alloys on. Again, rear wheel grip in the dry was amazing. Ive never done a track day with these tyres and i guess thats where they would be seriously put to the test - but i see no reason why they wouldnt perform. I am currently looking into tyres for my E92 M3 and these will be top of my list. The main reason i like them so much is the cost - they are SO cheap by comparison to say PS2's (which i think are great tyres BUT totally over-rated) - and they have a really cool looking side wall to the tyre. The only thing i have never been too sure about is the tread pattern - i love the fact its a very unique tread pattern but it makes the tyre look slightly narrower, when looking from behind the car, than say a PS2 et all etc. You either love the tread pattern or hate it - its one of those!! But overall, i think its probably THE best tyre on the market in terms of bang for buck - its a very competent performance tyre for the road and is amazing value for money. GET 'EM ON KIDDO!!!!

remmib · 03-03-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwbailey

I will stick my neck on the line here and state that i think i was the first, if not then one of the very first, to put these tyres on an E90 and talk about them on here!!

I got mine in may 2007.

marriedblonde · 03-03-2009, 03:18 PM

I can't compete as I stuck them on my z4 coupe beofre I had them fitted to an E9X :-)

But brilliant tyres and I will be sticking with trhem for some time to come

J.

G33 · 03-03-2009, 03:20 PM

think u guys need to stop praising them. otherwise the prices will go up due to demand

trixman · 03-03-2009, 05:20 PM

Your probably right, this place is quite literally an ice rink in the wet. Im not 100%, but I think the UK has some kind of gritted surface to the white painted sections placed on roads... not over here, nice and shiny. I'd be inclined to take everyone else's opinions here, as I've no experience with any different tyres on the e92.

What I do know is I need more grip full stop. The power overwhealms the rear's far too easy on the exit of corners, mostly due to the lack of LSD. I was having a bit of fun with some model of new Seat (not sure which, never saw the back of him) this weekend in the hills of Alhaurin, couldn't shake him on the corners at that really annoyed me. Next mods will be grip, handling and braking products that's for certain.

Sorry, bit OT there. Go get them, if just for the tread pattern... they're groooovy.

Hoops · 03-04-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by remmib

I got mine in may 2007.

Ahh, but did you let anyone on here know you got them in 2007, huh, eh!!??

But i do agree with Kin - we should probably not keep going on about them otherwise they'll soon cost them same as PS2's!!!

SixDegrees · 03-04-2009, 02:20 PM

Thanks,

Its down to these or F1 Asyms. Had those before and they were superb as well, top grip in the weat. But F1s are going up in price each week and the Sessanta are quite a bit cheaper.

Now I just new a new job (hopefully the phone call will come tomorrow about that!!)

EDIT: just looked on Camskill and the Sessanat and F1 Asyms are the same price (bar £5 on the 255/35s)... hmmmm!

03-02-2009, 02:40 PM	#1
SixDegrees Lieutenant 12 Rep 445 Posts Drives: M135i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 Abarth 500 [0.00]	Vredestien Ultrac Sessanta - thoughts / opinions! Ok, more a general discussion about the tread pattern and potentail performance / issues with the Sessanta tyres. Seems a bit odd to me that the tread isn't mirrored side-to-side but instead the tyres go on the same way and hence you get the 'up-side-down' look on one side. Surely, if one side is pressing the water outwards and the other inwards you get difference grips / performance characteristics. Anyone else think this? Anyone have any experience with them or knw a thing or 2 about tyre tread and what-not? Thanks SD __________________ 2014 [14] M135i, 3dr, MG, Auto, SP, CP, HS, HK and FBP Recent Past..... 2011 [61] Abarth 500, Funk White, Leather, H&R 2007 [57] 320d M-Sport Touring Pre 2007 - GT TDI 4MO, Mk4 R32, A3 TQ, A3T, Cupra R and on and on and on.....
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trixman Major 33 Rep 1,269 Posts Drives: A Rental Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Creepy Crawley iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 BMW E92 335d [0.00] 2003 M3 CSL [0.00] 2007 E92 335i [0.00]	I have them on mine, good summer tyres but proving terrible in the wet for me at least. I quite literally 'slide' across the white markers in the road, quite worrying when your going round a bend in the wet and the big arrow sign sends you skating across the road. Other than they they are great. Good grip in the dry, good looking and reasonably cheap
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rsyed Lieutenant 95 Rep 572 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vienna / AUSTRIA iTrader: (1)	i had them on my e60, i have them now on ym e90 - i love them. they look great, tehy perform well, but hey - it does not mean i took them on the track... __________________ Daily: Porsche Panamera 971 \| BMW 520xD G31 Sh!tbox: BMW Z4 M E86 \| BMW 1M E82 \| BMW M3 E90 Insta: bmw.shitbox
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marriedblonde Lieutenant 11 Rep 434 Posts Drives: e92 330 sport Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sunny south coast iTrader: (0)	Got them on my coupe, had them on my z4 coupe before that. No issues with them, covered about 25K miles on them so far. Strangely I've not had any issues with them in the wet either... J.
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G33 Colonel 91 Rep 2,079 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London iTrader: (0)	Im also surprised, i find them really grippy in the wet!
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Yahoo Captain 42 Rep 822 Posts Drives: 335i e91 LCI msport Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lincolnshire iTrader: (3)	Fantastic tyres - £ for £ the best out there IMO. I haven't had any issues with them at all. I agree that the tyre tread does seem to lack symmetry, but they do work very well.
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Hoops Brigadier General 271 Rep 3,658 Posts Drives: E70 X5 xDrive35d M Sport Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chigwell, Essex iTrader: (5) Garage List 2011 BMW S1000RR Sport [10.00] 2009 E92 M3 DCT [0.00] 2010 Range Rover Sport [0.00] 54 Plate E46 M3 CSL [0.00]	I will stick my neck on the line here and state that i think i was the first, if not then one of the very first, to put these tyres on an E90 and talk about them on here!! But who cares Steve?? In a few words.... FUCKING AWSOME TYRE!! There, hows that for an honest opinion!!? I first put these tyres on my 335i (the very 335i that Trixman now owns!) - and i thought they were fantastic when i owned the car. I wonder whether the road surface in Spain has something to do with them not performing in the wet - i have ridden my bikes many times in Spain and whenever it rains its like an ice rink down there - i was told it had something to do with the makeup of tarmac over there and the climate etc?? Regardless - i found them very competent in the wet and really quite awsome in the dry. So good in fact that i had them fitted to the 997 C2S when i put the GT3 alloys on. Again, rear wheel grip in the dry was amazing. Ive never done a track day with these tyres and i guess thats where they would be seriously put to the test - but i see no reason why they wouldnt perform. I am currently looking into tyres for my E92 M3 and these will be top of my list. The main reason i like them so much is the cost - they are SO cheap by comparison to say PS2's (which i think are great tyres BUT totally over-rated) - and they have a really cool looking side wall to the tyre. The only thing i have never been too sure about is the tread pattern - i love the fact its a very unique tread pattern but it makes the tyre look slightly narrower, when looking from behind the car, than say a PS2 et all etc. You either love the tread pattern or hate it - its one of those!! But overall, i think its probably THE best tyre on the market in terms of bang for buck - its a very competent performance tyre for the road and is amazing value for money. GET 'EM ON KIDDO!!!! __________________ E70 X5 xDrive35d M Sport - Carbon Black - Panoramic Roof - 21" BMW Alloys - BMW Performance Gloss Black Grilles - LCi Rear Light Upgrade - BMW 4.8i Exhaust Trims
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marriedblonde Lieutenant 11 Rep 434 Posts Drives: e92 330 sport Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sunny south coast iTrader: (0)	I can't compete as I stuck them on my z4 coupe beofre I had them fitted to an E9X :-) But brilliant tyres and I will be sticking with trhem for some time to come J.
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G33 Colonel 91 Rep 2,079 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London iTrader: (0)	think u guys need to stop praising them. otherwise the prices will go up due to demand
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trixman Major 33 Rep 1,269 Posts Drives: A Rental Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Creepy Crawley iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 BMW E92 335d [0.00] 2003 M3 CSL [0.00] 2007 E92 335i [0.00]	Your probably right, this place is quite literally an ice rink in the wet. Im not 100%, but I think the UK has some kind of gritted surface to the white painted sections placed on roads... not over here, nice and shiny. I'd be inclined to take everyone else's opinions here, as I've no experience with any different tyres on the e92. What I do know is I need more grip full stop. The power overwhealms the rear's far too easy on the exit of corners, mostly due to the lack of LSD. I was having a bit of fun with some model of new Seat (not sure which, never saw the back of him) this weekend in the hills of Alhaurin, couldn't shake him on the corners at that really annoyed me. Next mods will be grip, handling and braking products that's for certain. Sorry, bit OT there. Go get them, if just for the tread pattern... they're groooovy.
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SixDegrees Lieutenant 12 Rep 445 Posts Drives: M135i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 Abarth 500 [0.00]	Thanks, Its down to these or F1 Asyms. Had those before and they were superb as well, top grip in the weat. But F1s are going up in price each week and the Sessanta are quite a bit cheaper. Now I just new a new job (hopefully the phone call will come tomorrow about that!!) EDIT: just looked on Camskill and the Sessanat and F1 Asyms are the same price (bar £5 on the 255/35s)... hmmmm! __________________ 2014 [14] M135i, 3dr, MG, Auto, SP, CP, HS, HK and FBP Recent Past..... 2011 [61] Abarth 500, Funk White, Leather, H&R 2007 [57] 320d M-Sport Touring Pre 2007 - GT TDI 4MO, Mk4 R32, A3 TQ, A3T, Cupra R and on and on and on.....
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