[Lassaxi]

Originally Posted by poiney

While I agree with your overall comments, i.e., 328i is fast enough, not sure that I take any more stock in the 0-60 times than the Cd values on BMW brochures!

Or at least I can't understand why for nearly the same weight car, a 328i MT has nearly same acceleration as 330i, when the HP of 328i nearly splits the difference with the 325i. Are there other differences that would explain this discrepany?

Shorter gearing. By many accounts, the 328 is at least as fast as the 330 (and I think someone actually found it faster) in the 0-30 or 0-40 range. However, as the cars get moving faster, the 330's HP advantage becomes considerably more apparent. When you start to get above 30-40 mph, the 330 starts moving away from the 328.

[Rawhyde]

Is sounds to me like the major stumbling blocks to the 335 for the OP are:

1. The wait
2. Paying sticker price

I can't comment on the sticker price part because I haven't yet gotten that close to ordering for myself. I think if he searches enough, he can get a slight discount. I had to pay sticker price for my MINI back in '05. I think that's just part and parcel of getting a heavily demanded BMW Group product.

2. The wait. I know all about this one. I ordered my Cooper S at the end of Jan, and picked it up on April 15. If you're wondering, it's a long hard wait. BUT it's a wait worth enduring. If you order the car, you'll never ever have to make excuses to yourself about settling for a color scheme or option combo that is missing something you want... Gee, I wanted a Space Gray 335 with Saddle leather and a manual transmission, but this Chartruse 335 with the purple seats and automatic is just as good, ISN'T it?

If you lease or trade every 1 or 2 years, buying off the rack probably OK, but if a car is a prized possession and you keep it for a while, and if ESPECIALLY if you're like me and have pined for a BMW since the 8th grade, DON'T SETTLE FOR A DAMNED THING! Get what you want. You don't go to a really nice restaurant and tell the waiter to "bring me a plate of something".

Think of it this way...

Who is more qualified to select the specs of the car than the person who's paying for it and will wind up living with it for several years?

I ALWAYS order my cars. I get what I want. I admit that the wait is somewhat tedious, but it's just like the build up to Christmas for a young child...as soon as the car built to your specs gets delivered, all that built up tedium immediately transforms into happiness and pride that you just got something unique and custom built.

Best of luck,

Rawhyde

PS Get the manual!

[danimal]

Originally Posted by poiney

While I agree with your overall comments, i.e., 328i is fast enough, not sure that I take any more stock in the 0-60 times than the Cd values on BMW brochures!

Or at least I can't understand why for nearly the same weight car, a 328i MT has nearly same acceleration as 330i, when the HP of 328i nearly splits the difference with the 325i. Are there other differences that would explain this discrepany?

From the numbers...

E90 325i 6MT - CW: 3285, HP: 215@6250, Lb-Ft: 185@2750, 0-60: 6.7, CW/HP: 15.28
E90 328i 6MT - CW: 3340, HP: 230@6500, Lb-Ft: 200@2750, 0-60: 6.3, CW/HP: 14.52
E90 330i 6MT - CW: 3417, HP: 255@6600, Lb-Ft: 220@2750, 0-60: 6.1, CW/HP: 13.40
(Note: CW = Curb Weight)

...I would have to agree.

-Dan

[AJ M2 comp]

Dude I went to OSU and hate every Gator fan right now but I would still recomend getting the 335i.

[poiney]

Originally Posted by danimal

From the numbers...

E90 325i 6MT - CW: 3285, HP: 215@6250, Lb-Ft: 185@2750, 0-60: 6.7, CW/HP: 15.28
E90 328i 6MT - CW: 3340, HP: 230@6500, Lb-Ft: 200@2750, 0-60: 6.3, CW/HP: 14.52
E90 330i 6MT - CW: 3417, HP: 255@6600, Lb-Ft: 220@2750, 0-60: 6.1, CW/HP: 13.40
(Note: CW = Curb Weight)

...I would have to agree.

-Dan

BTW, I was comparing the coupe against sedan since CW is same. Assuming that extra weight on coupe offsets gains of Cd (0.02), then the coupe is surpringly close to 330i. Someone else said gearing was different, but the web site also shows same gearing.

[F2006]

Originally Posted by BKsBimmer

I think they're confused. 330i is 0-60 in 6.1 for 6MT and 6.3 for the Step. 328i is 0-60 in 6.3 for 6MT and 6.9 for Step according to BMWUSA site.

The 6.1 seconds 0-60 time for the 328 comes from a car magazine (Car and Driver). The same magazine clocked the 325 at 6.1 seconds (same as the 328) and the 330 at 5.6 seconds. Of course, these figures refer to the specific car they tested, while the figures from BMW most likely are averages and a bit conservative (need to be to avoid lawsuits).

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Dallas Gator

I've driven the 335 (a rocket) but this is dallas not the autobahn. Rather put the extra 5K into a 58" Plasma to watch my Gator FB team defend their NC....

Humm...It's the AutoBahn for me. BOD has a TiAg e92, black,6spd,alum. Talk to Joe Eckert. In fact call and ask for him, tell him his client w/ 335 e90 TiAg, the fast one Ask if he will deal. I get $150. You get, hopefully a deal and the car, most here think you should get. Good luck. Gig Em.

[M4TW]

I went to the 335 from my e46 330 because that twin turbo lights up my face. But wouldn't question anyone opting for the 328. Its accelleration is awesome compared to most cars and would walk my e46. Getting to top speed a second earlier is only part of the equation to your overall driving experience - it's also what you can do once you get there and what you do while getting there. For that the 328 is the same incredible driving machine as the 335. Add to that the leap into the unkown with a turbo engine that BMW is still working the bugs out on compared to its bread and butter NA inline 6 which by now should be near bullet proof, and the choice isn't as weighted in the 335's favor - even without considering price.

[psychoactive]

Hey I just got my custom ordered 328i coupe, 6 speed manual... I am not disappointed at all.

I did make the mistake of test driving the 335, and not the 328, so I didn't know how much slower it would be until I drove it off the lot... but, it is still a fast car, and sooooooooooo nice looking, feeling, everything about it is perfect... I love it!!!!

(p.s. I just got it 2 days ago)

The reason I got the 328 is I didn't want to spend $5,000 more to make it faster...

[simp0man]

I would have purchased the 330i but I never liked the look of the front and back of the sedan. But if it did show up as a coupe then, I would be on it!!!:rocks:

[ehhhwik]

i love my 328, i made sure i signed all my papers for the 328 before requesting a test drive for the 335 so i wont have a change of heart

[simp0man]

I appreiate the car travelling in the 6 second rage than your typical 8 and 9 seconds.

[BeMyWife330i]

330i 0-60 in 5.6 and 1/4mile in 14.3 (mt)
328i 0-60 in 6.2 and 1/4mile in 14.8 (mt)
both sedans
i raced a 328i on a highway, he did keep up with me, i slowly pulled away but on higher speeds(after 90mph) i pulled away even faster....

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by KrnNamja83

I'll probably replace my current car with the new STi, since the evo looks like poo. 335i is too rich for my blood.

Um yeah, the new STI looks like it was made by my 1 year old nephew. The new Evo is 10x better than that piece of shit.

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by psychoactive

Hey I just got my custom ordered 328i coupe, 6 speed manual... I am not disappointed at all.

I did make the mistake of test driving the 335, and not the 328, so I didn't know how much slower it would be until I drove it off the lot... but, it is still a fast car, and sooooooooooo nice looking, feeling, everything about it is perfect... I love it!!!!

(p.s. I just got it 2 days ago)

The reason I got the 328 is I didn't want to spend $5,000 more to make it faster...

And you will regret being cheap and not spending $5,000 more on a car that many magazines have called the car of the year. You'll be reminded of that when someone comes up to you and asks you how much you payed for your 335 and you tell them "No, it's a 328" and they asked you why you didn't pay $4-$5,000 more for a 335. I really dont understand why anyone would get a 328 unless they have a thing about gas milage.

[6MTFTMFW]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

And you will regret being cheap and not spending $5,000 more on a car that many magazines have called the car of the year. You'll be reminded of that when someone comes up to you and asks you how much you payed for your 335 and you tell them "No, it's a 328" and they asked you why you didn't pay $4-$5,000 more for a 335. I really dont understand why anyone would get a 328 unless they have a thing about gas milage.

That doesn't sound cool what you wrote, "why would anyone get a 328..."

Some people don't want to spend more money and some can't. Some people are cross shopping different cars and 335i with all the options that are standard in other cars outprices itself out of the competition. So who knows why one would purchase a 328i, not for you to judge.

But your example is totally stupid. Why would anyone walk up to you and ask how much you paid for your car? That sounds retarded and impolite. What do you hang out at an Indian Bazaar or a flea market all the time? Besides I could say the same thing about your car, "Hey, how much did you pay for your M3? or it's just 335i.....wow, why didn't you buy an M3 instead of this regular 3 series?"

Cheers and think before you write

[andr00]

It's a real shame whenever an owner inquires about mods to a "lesser" model and gets the standard "buy the higher model" response. Everyone has their reasons for purchasing the model they did, if we went with the 328i, do we have less of a right to want to modify our rides?

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by panerai7

That doesn't sound cool what you wrote, "why would anyone get a 328..."

Some people don't want to spend more money and some can't. Some people are cross shopping different cars and 335i with all the options that are standard in other cars outprices itself out of the competition. So who knows why one would purchase a 328i, not for you to judge.

But your example is totally stupid. Why would anyone walk up to you and ask how much you paid for your car? That sounds retarded and impolite. What do you hang out at an Indian Bazaar or a flea market all the time? Besides I could say the same thing about your car, "Hey, how much did you pay for your M3? or it's just 335i.....wow, why didn't you buy an M3 instead of this regular 3 series?"

Cheers and think before you write

What are you talking about? The point is that you could start a poll to see how many 328 owners have regretted not getting a 335 and I was trying to tell the OP to make damn sure he doesnt make the wrong decision.

Here's a link to another guy asking about more power for their 328.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56020

328's are nice for looks and all but the question was performance....power. He just got a 328 and he's already wanting more power for it.

Who are you to tell me my response was "stupid"? Who the hell are you to begin with? Maybe in your lonely little world, people dont walk up to you, tell you "Wow man, sweet car! How much did that run you"? But it happens to me quite a bit, even though my car is on another continent.

If you buy it, $5000 more spread over say a 60 month autoloan comes out to around $80 more per month.

Oh and the new M3 doesnt come out for ATLEAST another year, so fuck off and I'll let you know when I give a damn what you think.

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by andr00

It's a real shame whenever an owner inquires about mods to a "lesser" model and gets the standard "buy the higher model" response. Everyone has their reasons for purchasing the model they did, if we went with the 328i, do we have less of a right to want to modify our rides?

I'll explain this as easily as I can.

335 = Superior performance and warranty included, not to mention that significant gains are made with simple mods.

328 = You will pray and wait for something to come out for it and when it does, if that something isnt a turbo/super charger, then you won't have any significant gains. Before you say cold air intake, I'll just go ahead now and respond with +4 or 5 hp. Nothing more. Wait for a chip cause thats the best you'll get for the foreseeable future.

[6MTFTMFW]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

What are you talking about? The point is that you could start a poll to see how many 328 owners have regretted not getting a 335 and I was trying to tell the OP to make damn sure he doesnt make the wrong decision.

Here's a link to another guy asking about more power for their 328.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56020

328's are nice for looks and all but the question was performance....power. He just got a 328 and he's already wanting more power for it.

Who are you to tell me my response was "stupid"? Who the hell are you to begin with? Maybe in your lonely little world, people dont walk up to you, tell you "Wow man, sweet car! How much did that run you"? But it happens to me quite a bit, even though my car is on another continent.

If you buy it, $5000 more spread over say a 60 month autoloan comes out to around $80 more per month.

Oh and the new M3 doesnt come out for ATLEAST another year, so fuck off and I'll let you know when I give a damn what you think.

You're funny. Who are you tell people "why would anyone buy a 328i" your opinion doesn't count 'cause the only reason why you were able to get the 335i was because of some army discount or probably traded a couple of m16's for it - so, you fuck off and I will let you know when I give a damn what you think

And that's just an excuse that M3 doesn't come out for a year, and you know it.

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by panerai7

You're funny. Who are you tell people "why would anyone buy a 328i" your opinion doesn't count 'cause the only reason why you were able to get the 335i was because of some army discount or probably traded a couple of m16's for it - so, you fuck off and I will let you know when I give a damn what you think

And that's just an excuse that M3 doesn't come out for a year, and you know it.

Wow brilliant reply. I traded some M16's for a 335. ha.......ha. You are such a loser and a waste of time.

By the way, what people around here pay for a 335 is the same as in germany now a days. $43,000 isn't much of a discount.

Go back to your homosexual life.

[6MTFTMFW]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Wow brilliant reply. I traded some M16's for a 335. ha.......ha. You are such a loser and a waste of time.

By the way, what people around here pay for a 335 is the same as in germany now a days. $43,000 isn't much of a discount.

Go back to your homosexual life.

HAHAHAHAHA, exactly my point - 43k is what 328i coupe costs here fully loaded. So, that's why you got 335i coupe, you have no right to tell people what to buy and what they shouldn't buy.

And i think you got a better chance at a homosexual life than me, you know showering with a bunch of people and stuff.

Go scrub the toilets with your toothbrush, private