[Chappers 71]

If any of you guys have a interest in fighter aircraft feel free to compile your own list. Below is in my opinion 10, make that 11, no fuck it make that 12 of the best

Eurofighter Typhoon
F-22 Raptor
Mig 29
Hawker Harrier 11
F-4 Phantom 11
English Electric Lightning
Super Sabre
ME 262
Spitfire X1V
FW 190 (152)
BF 109G
Yak 3

[Delta0311]

Are you serious? No BF-109??? Wtf.

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

Are you serious? No BF-109??? Wtf.

Lol, granted the 109G should be on my list, I will edit accordingly

[Fundguy1]

Mines based on dominance in their time. Take the one with the star.
Current
F-22 Raptor*
Chengdu J-20


70s-2000
F-15 Eagle*
F-14 Tomcat
Mig 29 and variations

50s & 60s
Mig 15
Mig 21
F86
F100*

Ww2
Zero
Spitfire
Hurricane
P51 Mustang*
ME109
FW190

Sopwith Camel*


F4 phantom sucked. Had no guns to begin with and all those awkward angled parts were to compensate for poor aerodynamics.

Euro typhoon is cute but vs russia, us, or now chinese wouldn't stand a chance with equal ability pilots. Good for ground attack. Similar to F16 or F18. Same for the hawker harrier. Quirky but useful. All these planes have done well due to pilot training, not the aircraft.

Doubtful the yak9 could have survived 1 on 1 with most aircraft of the time. Mustang, spitfire, would have toasted it. It did well because the Germans blew their load on England and western front bombers. It only faced inexperienced pilots in outdated aircraft. Yak 3 was close only bested by the Mustang, spitfire, and me 262, but nit enough numbers and was gone with the mig 15 being introduced.

English electric lightning I'd leave off just like the f-104, me262, mig 31, and p38 lightning. They were interceptors not fighters. Out of these, take the mig.

Best all time, f15 eagle. Mach 2.5, can go verticle, and 98 to 1 kill ratio. The 1 loss was a poorly trained Saudi pilot vs a mig.

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

Mines based on dominance in their time. Take the one with the star.
Current
F-22 Raptor*
Chengdu J-20


70s-2000
F-15 Eagle*
F-14 Tomcat
Mig 29 and variations

50s & 60s
Mig 15
Mig 21
F86
F100*

Ww2
Zero
Spitfire
Hurricane
P51 Mustang*
ME109
FW190

Sopwith Camel*


F4 phantom sucked. Had no guns to begin with and all those awkward angled parts were to compensate for poor aerodynamics.

Euro typhoon is cute but vs russia, us, or now chinese wouldn't stand a chance with equal ability pilots. Good for ground attack. Similar to F16 or F18. Same for the hawker harrier. Quirky but useful. All these planes have done well due to pilot training, not the aircraft.

Doubtful the yak could have survived 1 on 1 with most aircraft of the time. Mustang, spitfire, would have toasted it. It did well because the Germans blew their load on England and western front bombers. It only faced inexperienced pilots in outdated aircraft.

English electric lightning I'd leave off just like the f-104, me262, mig 31, and p38 lightning. They were interceptors not fighters. Out of these, take the mig.

Best all time, f15 eagle. Mach 2.5, can go verticle, and 98 to 1 kill ratio. The 1 loss was a poorly trained Saudi pilot vs a mig.

F-4 Phantom 280 kills during Vietnam war enough said.
My brother flew phantoms for the raf during the 70s.

Eurofighters flown by the Luftwaffe opened cans of kick arse on the American flown raptors during combat simulation

[Fundguy1]

Phantom kill rato was 2.5:1. F86 was 10:1. F15 is 98:1. Phantom did win but it did not dominate. Any questions?

[Fundguy1]

http://www.migflug.com/jetflights/p-...us-raptor.html

Air to air, raptor is still king.

[John320d]

Definitely Spitfire (whoops given my age away).

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by John320d

Definitely Spitfire (whoops given my age away).

Agreed. Spitfire was dominant but lacked numbers. It's engine supercharged in the Mustang arguably is the best fighter of all time. The spitfire arguably is the prettiest too.

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

http://www.migflug.com/jetflights/p-...us-raptor.html

Air to air, raptor is still king.

In your opinion

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by Chappers 71

In your opinion

Pretty much world opinion. And that articles. And the opinion of 98% of everyone else. Pilots can make a difference. It has some weaknesses but more advantages than anything out there now.

[AWSAWS]

My favourite American jet as a kid was the F-16. A legendary fighter bomber in it's time with the dogfight button and HOTAS design. I think the Eurofighter came about 20 years late thanks to European collaboration, or lack of.

I've always felt the Russians had the better hardware (air frames(Mig 29, Su-27) and engines(Mig-25, Mig-31)) and the Americans the better technology. Fly by wire, electronics etc.

Love the thrust vectoring but I'm sure we don't get to see the stuff that's in development now like the Blackbird and the F-117A but with missiles able to pull 100Gs I think man's time is the cockpit is done. Leave it to the drones.

[Chappers 71]

UAVs are the future, next generation of pilots are already being subversly trained on there PlayStations & Xboxes

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

Pretty much world opinion. And that articles. And the opinion of 98% of everyone else. Pilots can make a difference. It has some weaknesses but more advantages than anything out there now.

Would that be the same world that holds a World Series rounders tournament with only two countries lol

[Fundguy1]

Enjoy. If your life was on the line, and you were equally proficient in both, I doubt you'd pick the typhoon.

Soviets do have the superior air frames. Actually gives them an advantage. In a nuclear war, theit jets run, or at least ran on tunes. Ours on circuits. Circuits fry when hit by an electromagnetic pulse. Their planes keep flying. Ours don't. We needed to do crazy shielding to stay in the air.

[Maniac0908]

Although its not really a fighter. Lets not forget about the allmighty a10 warthog

[Chappers 71]

I had a airfix model of the A10.

The raptor costs over $60000 an hour to keep in the air, the Typhoon is around $34000.

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by Maniac0908

Although its not really a fighter. Lets not forget about the allmighty a10 warthog

Agreed 100%
They should have kept chunking them out, not retired them.

[abeardo83]

Can't comment about the post ww2 ones, but I loved the JU87-G and also the Hawker Typhoon.

Now tanks, tanks would be a different story!!!!

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by abeardo83

Can't comment about the post ww2 ones, but I loved the JU87-G and also the Hawker Typhoon.

Now tanks, tanks would be a different story!!!!

Good choice the JU87G was a great tank killer as was the rocket firing Typhoon.
I would happily chat tanks. Used to have loads of model tanks when I was a kid

[Maniac0908]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

Agreed 100%
They should have kept chunking them out, not retired them.

They arnt retired yet! I still work on them. But we were told it will happen soon. Congress is still fighting for it. We will see.

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by Maniac0908

They arnt retired yet! I still work on them. But we were told it will happen soon. Congress is still fighting for it. We will see.

Well yes this is true. They aren't technically retired. Just slated for it. Nothing better though for battlefield use if you establish air superiority.