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      03-30-2012, 07:34 PM   #1
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Twin turbo 328i

Twin turbo 328i is it possible to take the 335i turbo kit and place it on the 328i. With some extra things.
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      03-30-2012, 07:35 PM   #2
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best bet is trade in your 328i and get a 335i or buy a used n54 engine and do the swap
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      03-30-2012, 08:24 PM   #3
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Nobody here has done it as far as I know. The usual reply around here is to just trade your car for a 335.
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      03-30-2012, 10:53 PM   #4
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There's too many other components to add and trade off besides the turbo's. YOu'll spend less by just trading in for a 335.

If you're determined to make your N52 a turbo, i suggest going with a general turbo kit and watch your boost level (to keep from damaging the N/A-designed engine)
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      03-31-2012, 01:10 AM   #5
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      03-31-2012, 03:05 AM   #6
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there is a pricier alternative , 2012 328i F30
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      04-02-2012, 10:39 AM   #7
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The amount of money you would spend on parts on tunning alone would make it not worth it.
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      04-02-2012, 11:23 AM   #8
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I hate it when people are not responding to the question, but feel the ultimate need to tell you what they think about your idea.

You guys have no idea of the guy's situation. If he has a salvaged 335 and is or knows somebody that is a mechanic guru, what would you have to say to him? Most of the time, you dont know who you are talking to, but assuming a ton of things.

Was the Civette project an economic project? hell no, but the whole world talks about it and hundreds have followed the pioneer that did it first. There are sheeps, and pioneers; hats off to the second category.

In my case, you would tell me that I have two options, upgrading for a 335 for 6k or put 335 engineering if my 325 for 10, I would probably opt for the 10 option. Just because I know where my car has been before, how it was maintained, etc... Besides, I've put so much time modding it to my taste that it would be well worth the 4k. That, again, you're in no position to assume what one's think.

That being said, I would just add that if you cant answer the question, just move on. And if all you have to answer is to tell the guy to just get a 335, you have NO CLUE if its doable or not. So yeah; move on!
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      04-02-2012, 11:51 AM   #9
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probably no, but IF you really really really wanted to try this.. you would need the single turbo setup from the N55, not the twin turbos from the N54, as they are based on the older M54 engine from the E46. That's what I read anyway.

and honestly, if you are asking these kinds of questions, it probably means you are not very knowledgeable in this area, so you'd be better off trading up to a 335 :-P
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and honestly, if you are asking these kinds of questions, it probably means you are not very knowledgeable in this area, so you'd be better off trading up to a 335 :-P
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      04-02-2012, 01:20 PM   #11
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I hate it when people are not responding to the question, but feel the ultimate need to tell you what they think about your idea.

You guys have no idea of the guy's situation. If he has a salvaged 335 and is or knows somebody that is a mechanic guru, what would you have to say to him? Most of the time, you dont know who you are talking to, but assuming a ton of things.

Was the Civette project an economic project? hell no, but the whole world talks about it and hundreds have followed the pioneer that did it first. There are sheeps, and pioneers; hats off to the second category.

In my case, you would tell me that I have two options, upgrading for a 335 for 6k or put 335 engineering if my 325 for 10, I would probably opt for the 10 option. Just because I know where my car has been before, how it was maintained, etc... Besides, I've put so much time modding it to my taste that it would be well worth the 4k. That, again, you're in no position to assume what one's think.

That being said, I would just add that if you cant answer the question, just move on. And if all you have to answer is to tell the guy to just get a 335, you have NO CLUE if its doable or not. So yeah; move on!
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      04-02-2012, 02:12 PM   #12
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Ok, so since it's feasible, what needs to be done? Is it wrong to voice your opinion on why you think it is a bad idea, perhaps maybe even spreading some insight from personal knowledge and experience?

If this guy is asking the question, he likely doesn't have the knowledge to make it happen by himself.

Hell, the N52 does't even share the same throttle blade logic! It might actually be easier to try and copy the N55. Even then, he need to find out for himself the head port spacing and shape, all the required hardware, how to flash the ECU to work and/or swapping out the ECU, how it's going to affect the rest of the CAN network, not to mentions hundreds of other little details that affect how well this project will work. Not to mention the fact that the N52 was not built for boost and is MUCH weaker, not only in the block/cylinder walls but even the crankshaft and possibly rods/pistons.

If you are going to be the leader type, you do this yourself, you don't ask on a forum. That is, assuming you have an idea of how these systems operate. The OP probably doesn't know what he is getting into, so it seemed a lot simplier to him. Hell, they are both basically the same, 3.0L straight six, just one has turbos, right?

That being said, I agree that he should sell the 328i for the best price possible and find him self a nice, used, low-price 335i with the N54. It's a realistic scenario, cost effective, and will produce better results.

A more realistic question would be, "Is it possible to design a turbocharger system for the N52?". The answer is yes. And yes, you could possibly modify OEM N54 parts to create your N52 turbocharged system. Is it desirable, realistic, "worth it", etc? That is an opinion and up to the OP to decide.
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      04-02-2012, 02:38 PM   #13
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First of all, the 328 is an N52. The 335 is an N54/55.

Not only will you have to custom fabricate the whole induction system for the N52 to accept the turbos, you need custom tuning aswell.

At this point, you might as well just buy some aftermarket, small turbos and tune them yourself.

And at this point, you might as well just wait for a proven kit to come out....not a turbo but check out the supercharger kit by MMW.

It's just not economical to custom tune a turbo for the N52 engine.....if you want to mass produce it, it will be worth it. You will have many buyers. But unless you can fabricate and install the turbo system and have all the necessary equipment to tune it yourself, it's just not worth it.
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      04-02-2012, 02:42 PM   #14
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Twin turbo 328i is it possible to take the 335i turbo kit and place it on the 328i. With some extra things.
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I hate it when people are not responding to the question, but feel the ultimate need to tell you what they think about your idea.

You guys have no idea of the guy's situation. If he has a salvaged 335 and is or knows somebody that is a mechanic guru, what would you have to say to him? Most of the time, you dont know who you are talking to, but assuming a ton of things.

Was the Civette project an economic project? hell no, but the whole world talks about it and hundreds have followed the pioneer that did it first. There are sheeps, and pioneers; hats off to the second category.

In my case, you would tell me that I have two options, upgrading for a 335 for 6k or put 335 engineering if my 325 for 10, I would probably opt for the 10 option. Just because I know where my car has been before, how it was maintained, etc... Besides, I've put so much time modding it to my taste that it would be well worth the 4k. That, again, you're in no position to assume what one's think.

That being said, I would just add that if you cant answer the question, just move on. And if all you have to answer is to tell the guy to just get a 335, you have NO CLUE if its doable or not. So yeah; move on!
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I understand your rant. But i must put in my 2¢ just because lol

Based on this guy's number of posts and lack of background information, i'm quick to assume he's a newbie and/or otherwise trolling... if he HAS access to used parts, why wouldn't he say so?

I'm inclined to say though, i was a newbie once (so were you) and i've asked general questions just to say what the options were [i.e. trolling] without actually putting any further thought into it...
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It can be done just like it can be done on just about any other car. You get a turbo manifold, a turbo that will bolt up and fit, proper piping to your throttle body, fuel delivery, a piggyback ecu, run your oil drain and input lines, water lines (water not necessary always), and then blow your engine that really wasn't designed for boost
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      04-02-2012, 03:34 PM   #16
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I dont understand why this topic keeps coming up. The 335 is the twin turbo version of the 328 (essentially). If you want a TT 328, buy a 335. End of this thread, end of all future threads like this.
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      04-02-2012, 03:36 PM   #17
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ok but lets say you have a 335i and want to swap into it the new Vishnu single turbo then your paying money then. so what about getting the Single turbo and putting it in the 328i?
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      04-02-2012, 04:01 PM   #18
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NO CLUE if its doable or not.
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we all have a clue and it's not doable.
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Arma that n52 and call it a day
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      04-02-2012, 09:59 PM   #21
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      04-02-2012, 10:38 PM   #22
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ok but lets say you have a 335i and want to swap into it the new Vishnu single turbo then your paying money then. so what about getting the Single turbo and putting it in the 328i?
No...just..............no man.

Are you guys inheriting these cars from your parents or something?

How old is the average N52 owner?
Seems like someone else owns the car and holds the power preventing them from switching vehicles.
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