USTCC E90 Build - Page 5 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Johnny D · 04-20-2013, 09:42 PM

Awesome stuff! After I graduate I will be doing something similar to this to my e90. Currently running a '91 318is in Auto-X STX class.

RazRokz.! · 04-21-2013, 03:00 PM

How much did y'all pay labor-wise for the engine swap? clean work btw

fdawg4l · 04-22-2013, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rotary Rocket

Well it has been a while since I posted. We decided not to go with the N52 and instead use an S54 motor.

What made you give up on the N52? ECU issues?

Since you decided on the S54, what part of the S54 harness did you have to mod if at all? Is it the E46 M3 ECU, or are you using something aftermarket?

I'm just really curious how you got the S54 in there. Did you have to mod the subframe or firewall?

fdawg4l · 04-22-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fdawg4l

Did you have to mod the subframe or firewall?

What about the drive shaft?

The more I think about it, the more I wonder why the chassis swap at all? Your E36 is smaller and lighter, no?

e90pilot · 04-22-2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fdawg4l

What about the drive shaft?

The more I think about it, the more I wonder why the chassis swap at all? Your E36 is smaller and lighter, no?

I'm guessing it has to do with power to weight ratio and the rules. Even if you have a lighter car they'll add weight to you car to make the competition more even. My brother ran into this issue in Grand Am with the Z4 he drove. His car was pretty light and had about 250hp but they added a 170-lb block of metal to the car.

Rotary Rocket · 04-23-2013, 10:19 PM

We will be racing Buttonwillow later this year. Check out the schedule at www.ustcc.com.

You are more than welcome to trace it at the race. The pics of the splitter are still on page 3.

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Damn it, I want to see the front splitter so I can trace it for Tony. I'm glad you like the combo, it is probably my favorite mod on my car!

Think you will be in Socal at any point in the next couple of weeks? I'll drive out to you to make a trace, ha.

Rotary Rocket · 04-23-2013, 10:20 PM

Wheels are Rota. They are 18X10.

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Originally Posted by Youngbp04

Car looks great! What wheels are those?

Rotary Rocket · 04-23-2013, 10:22 PM

I am sure BTM can take care of your project. They are located in Campbell, California. Aren't you in NY?!

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Originally Posted by Sichik

Guys,have s54 engine and tranny and bmw e92,are you willing to do same project again?And how much will you charge me for it.PM me please.Thnx

Rotary Rocket · 04-23-2013, 10:25 PM

Yes, basically the complications of electronics of a late model.

The E46 is a lot easier to work with. We are using the stock ECU and harness. I might do an AEM standalone later. We are talking with AEM and they are working on a system that will accommodate the throttle by wire and the Vanos. I will keep you all posted.

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Originally Posted by fdawg4l

What made you give up on the N52? ECU issues?

Since you decided on the S54, what part of the S54 harness did you have to mod if at all? Is it the E46 M3 ECU, or are you using something aftermarket?

I'm just really curious how you got the S54 in there. Did you have to mod the subframe or firewall?

Rotary Rocket · 04-23-2013, 10:30 PM

USTCC is a late model series. I needed to move to at least an E46 chassis. I decided to go to an E9X instead and make sure I can race this car for a long time to come.

The series is a power to weight ratio, so you can adjust by adding power if you weight more. The newer cars are also allowed to run 275 tires while the old cars are only allowed 245. The last reason; 3 models old and you get a 150 lbs weight penalty as well.

No mods to the firewall, sub-frame, or rear drive shaft needed. Only motor mounts, custom BTM mounts.

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Originally Posted by fdawg4l

What about the drive shaft?

The more I think about it, the more I wonder why the chassis swap at all? Your E36 is smaller and lighter, no?

akotten · 04-24-2013, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rotary Rocket

Yes, basically the complications of electronics of a late model.

The E46 is a lot easier to work with. We are using the stock ECU and harness. I might do an AEM standalone later. We are talking with AEM and they are working on a system that will accommodate the throttle by wire and the Vanos. I will keep you all posted.

Pectel SQ6. If you can afford it, get one. They are fantastic and support anything you can throw at em. (Vanos, throttle by wire, etc.)

fdawg4l · 04-24-2013, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rotary Rocket

No mods to the firewall, sub-frame, or rear drive shaft needed. Only motor mounts, custom BTM mounts.

That's incredible! No mods at all, stock ECU, and the thing just fit (sans motor mounts).

If BTM decides to sell these mounts, I'd really consider looking for an S54 if my N54 becomes too expensive to maintain.

Thanks for all of the info. If you keep a build-log of receipts and such, I for one (and likely many others) would really appreciate it.

Just too cool. Good work, man.

fdawg4l · 04-24-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by akotten

Pectel SQ6. If you can afford it, get one. They are fantastic and support anything you can throw at em. (Vanos, throttle by wire, etc.)

http://www.apexspeedtech.com/car-pla...eed-technology
Whoa, $6k for the S65 kit. Sounds awesome, but whoa expensive.

akotten · 04-24-2013, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fdawg4l

http://www.apexspeedtech.com/car-pla...eed-technology
Whoa, $6k for the S65 kit. Sounds awesome, but whoa expensive.

Yeah, that's who we used to get ours from. Unfortunately they are no longer a Pectel/Cosworth dealer. ApexSpeed had such great customer support too! We now work through Cosworth USA....who is also fantastic to work with. I love the Pi CalTool software and Engine Offload Tool. Great stuff. A lot of ALMS teams run the SQ6M.

Eagle1oh7 · 05-10-2013, 11:21 PM

Nice! I too want to do this to my E90 when it is replaced. Must make my wife understand or divorce her ass! LOL j/k!

Meeni · 05-11-2013, 12:28 AM

Congratulations Brad for the win! I was watching the USTC results, and was like "I have seen that car somewhere else". Keep the good work going, I'm your fan

TSM330i · 05-11-2013, 12:11 PM

PM sent about the Spec clutch.

Quick question on how they know how much HP you're running. Do they do a dyno on your car to see how much HP you're making in order to assess weight penalties?
I know RMP Motors in Canada is running an N52 in their e90 and they're making 298 RWHP and spinning the engine to 8,500rpms.

Rotary Rocket · 05-11-2013, 11:43 PM

I sent the clutch back to SPEC. Had no use for it!

Yes they dyno our cars and there is an equation on how to calculate your weight. I think we need get a 13.2 multiplier.

I do have custom headers (no cats) if you need them for your build.

TSM330i · 05-12-2013, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rotary Rocket

I sent the clutch back to SPEC. Had no use for it!

Yes they dyno our cars and there is an equation on how to calculate your weight. I think we need get a 13.2 multiplier.

I do have custom headers (no cats) if you need them for your build.

Thanks for the response. We actually have a Supersprint header already, so we won't need the custom header.
DSC_OFF may be interested in the header.

Rotary Rocket · 05-13-2013, 11:05 PM

Post up your build.

StealYourFace · 05-16-2013, 09:32 PM

Hey man, how about some in car vids?

Has to be about the only s54 in the states. I'm sure BMW had quite a few mules with a similar situation running around!

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Johnny D Major Drives: 2006 BMW 325i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Hot Springs, AR Posts: 1,078 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 BMW 325i [4.60]	Awesome stuff! After I graduate I will be doing something similar to this to my e90. Currently running a '91 318is in Auto-X STX class. __________________

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Eagle1oh7 Second Lieutenant Drives: '11 328i Sedan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vacaville CA Posts: 280 iTrader: (0)	Nice! I too want to do this to my E90 when it is replaced. Must make my wife understand or divorce her ass! LOL j/k! __________________ DONE: Seibon CF Hood, M3 Rep, MSport rear w/Duke Dynamics CF Diffuser, Rieger Rep Skirts, aFe Stage 2 PRO-R Intake, Seibon CSL trunklid, Forgestar F14 18s w/Michelin PSS FUTURE MODS: Eisenmann Full Cat-back Exhaust, OETuning ECU, MMW Headers, CF mirror caps, Bi-Xenon headlights, CF rooftop, CF lip

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TSM330i 2006 330i, TSM, Black, manual, sport Drives: E90 330i, E86 Z4 3.0si Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chester Springs, PA Posts: 2,656 iTrader: (1)	PM sent about the Spec clutch. Quick question on how they know how much HP you're running. Do they do a dyno on your car to see how much HP you're making in order to assess weight penalties? I know RMP Motors in Canada is running an N52 in their e90 and they're making 298 RWHP and spinning the engine to 8,500rpms. __________________ 2006 330i, TSM, Black, Sport, JIC Cross Coil-Overs, UUC Sways, 18" Advan RS, Mich PSS 255/265, Custom Alcantara M-tech steering wheel, VAC pedals, Rogue shifter, M-Tech front, CF emblems, Dinan TB, Intake, exhaust, strut bar, Stoptech BBK, LSD, M3 susp., LUX 5, CF Hood and CSL, Sparco Seats, AA tune, CF Roof

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StealYourFace Lieutenant Drives: 2006 330i sport Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Shakedown Street, Buffalo NY Posts: 497 iTrader: (1)	Hey man, how about some in car vids? Has to be about the only s54 in the states. I'm sure BMW had quite a few mules with a similar situation running around! __________________ 330i ~ BMW Perf. Susp. ~ M3 Front Control Arms ~ BMW Perf Exhaust ~ 3.38 lsd ~ 230s ~ Pilot Super Sports

05-11-2013, 12:28 AM	#104
Meeni Gateropode Drives: BMW 330i 06 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: TN Posts: 786 iTrader: (0)	Congratulations Brad for the win! I was watching the USTC results, and was like "I have seen that car somewhere else". Keep the good work going, I'm your fan

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Rotary Rocket Private Drives: 99 M3 USTCC Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: California Posts: 54 iTrader: (0)	I sent the clutch back to SPEC. Had no use for it! Yes they dyno our cars and there is an equation on how to calculate your weight. I think we need get a 13.2 multiplier. I do have custom headers (no cats) if you need them for your build.

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Rotary Rocket Private Drives: 99 M3 USTCC Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: California Posts: 54 iTrader: (0)	Post up your build.

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