335i Turbos - Stage 2 now installed and reviewed!!

E92Fan · 11-08-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

yeah the problem is the wastegate axle that goes inside the housing. The pictures in the thread are showing still the old wastegates. He is working on a solution . i was looking 2 weeks ago at the old S4 Audi engine and the wastegates assembly was incredibly sturdy... really bad engineered wastegates we got on the N54 ...

The problem with the wastegate wear is not the rod itself, it's the bush that the rod goes through. With the heat cycling and soaking that is in the turbo, that bush starts to deform and wear quickly, allowing the wastegate rod to travel sideways and thus getting worn and stuck. If the bush is redesigned and the wastegate crank modified to suit, then the longevity will be much much greater. There is no problem with the wastegate seat diaphragm itself - all it is is the wear of the bush as the pictures of my turbo show.

Turbo Dynamics have addressed this issue by remanufacturing the crank bush with a completely new insert.

marconi118 · 11-08-2009, 05:23 PM

Great to read this Tony!

do you have any picture of the new compressor wheel?

Maybe I will pass in UK with MArcel to upgrade turbos DME and install quife!!!

Alpina_B3_Lux · 11-09-2009, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by marconi118

Maybe I will pass in UK with Marcel to upgrade turbos DME and install Quaife!!!

LOL It almost looks like we'll have to organize a trip to the UK for our European members on here...

I'm going over in February or March, mainly for the Quaife LSD and an install of M3 parts at the same time. Depending on the price and my financial situation (

) I just might do an upgrade...but the problem is also the time needed for this, I won't be able to take a week or more off in order to do this. But we'll see when the time comes.

Alpina_B3_Lux

enrita · 11-09-2009, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpina_B3_Lux

LOL It almost looks like we'll have to organize a trip to the UK for our European members on here...

I'm going over in February or March, mainly for the Quaife LSD and an install of M3 parts at the same time. Depending on the price and my financial situation (

) I just might do an upgrade...but the problem is also the time needed for this, I won't be able to take a week or more off in order to do this. But we'll see when the time comes.

Alpina_B3_Lux

i ordered the Quaife from Bird and got it shipped to Sweden. The install was very straight forward if done by a good BMW shop.
M3 parts shipped as well from US and installed in sweden.

marconi118 · 11-09-2009, 09:31 AM

Is it cheaper to get the M3 suspension arms from US or UK compared to Germany-Belgium-France???

I plan for a full M3 suspension retrofit, then do the quife + turbo + ECU map

dxb335d · 11-09-2009, 09:40 AM

whats pre 29.2? Software? why is that good/bad?

neo871 · 11-09-2009, 09:42 AM

It's that lag stuff....

enrita · 11-09-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by marconi118

Is it cheaper to get the M3 suspension arms from US or UK compared to Germany-Belgium-France???

I plan for a full M3 suspension retrofit, then do the quife + turbo + ECU map

You can order everything from BMW if you have all the codes. Its just bits and pieces and they are not that expensive. I paied 1800 USD from Tisher shipped to Sweden FOR ALL M3 bits but unfortunately they dont ship anymore outside the US which sucks .....
The problem is mainly all the pieces necessary and not missing any. you dont want to have the car jacked up and notice you are missing a piece.... HP Autowerks also sell this stuff and ship outside the US.
The Strut brace and sways are easy to order but the other parts can be tricky. You need to search a lot on E90post suspension threads and write down all the codes.
Tischer kit: http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...catalogid=4462

Alpina_B3_Lux · 11-09-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by marconi118

Is it cheaper to get the M3 suspension arms from US or UK compared to Germany-Belgium-France???

I plan for a full M3 suspension retrofit, then do the quife + turbo + ECU map

Depends on whether you manage to avoid custom duties (then it's most probably less expensive to order from the US). It's certainly less hassle to order the whole kits from a site like HP Motorwerks, as Enrita wrote (which is what I'll be doing in order to be sure not to miss a piece). Not the sway bars, though, they're too bulky.

But we're going a bit OT here, back to Tony's upgrade.

Alpina_B3_Lux

marconi118 · 11-09-2009, 11:09 AM

what about prices in UK compared to lux?
I already have the list of all parts needed looking at realoem.com
And I stop to go OT... waiting new infos coming from Tone !!!!!

Alpina_B3_Lux · 11-11-2009, 12:35 PM

How are things progressing, Tony? Finished the custom mapping with DMS? Yes I know I'm curious...

Alpina_B3_Lux

E90Yaz · 11-12-2009, 11:01 AM

Come on Tony wheres the update!! Its gonna be Friday!!

Serjames · 11-12-2009, 11:48 AM

looks like he's doing DMS tomorrow (friday)

Turbos are on the car and it runs fine... Just not at peak efficiency until DMS re-modify the map..

Might join him tomorrow if I can get this damn presentation sorted !

SJ

E92Fan · 11-12-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Serjames

looks like he's doing DMS tomorrow (friday)

Turbos are on the car and it runs fine... Just not at peak efficiency until DMS re-modify the map..

Might join him tomorrow if I can get this damn presentation sorted !

SJ

what he said

turbos are back on - had an issue with a split o-ring on the water line union, which wasn't discovered until the engine was fired up and coolant started leaking out! Everything apart again just to get to that leaking union. O-ring replaced, and hey presto everything works!

Just a few things to do early on tomorrow morning, then down to DMS

enrita · 11-12-2009, 12:43 PM

Nice! how is the car running without the remap?

dxb335d · 11-12-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Serjames

looks like he's doing DMS tomorrow (friday)

Turbos are on the car and it runs fine... Just not at peak efficiency until DMS re-modify the map..

Might join him tomorrow if I can get this damn presentation sorted !

SJ

Its Monday now mate!

E92Fan · 11-12-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

Nice! how is the car running without the remap?

Car seems to run fine with the map that's already on the car. Haven't driven it in anger yet as we're doing other things to it whilst it's on a ramp. Will see what happens post remapped remap !!

E92Fan · 11-12-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

Its Monday now mate!

Yes, it's Monday for DMS now - not enough time to get it all done tomorrow. Balls

enrita · 11-12-2009, 12:59 PM

E92Fan: please summarize when you get the car on the street how it drives without the proper remap. i am interested since i will have to be able to drive my car on GIAC stage 2plus flash with the turbo upgrade on till i get a dedicated one. Thanks!

ar design · 11-12-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by E92Fan

Haven't driven it in anger yet

MarkE92 · 11-12-2009, 04:31 PM

Can't wait to hear the testresults after visit DMS

marconi118 · 11-12-2009, 04:49 PM

Tony,
do you have increased turbo lag or lets say turbo spooling time?
Are turbos on at same rpm as before?
This should be only dependent of turbos and not of flash...

I am really curiois because I look for turbo upgrade that don't introduce more lag or shifts the power band up...

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