Easiest way to add a little more bottom ed and clarity to 2011is with HIFi

vr4spd · 11-18-2017, 05:14 PM

What’s the best option for adding some more bottom end and clarity at hi volume on my 2011is with the HIFI? I really don’t want to take off any paneling or get into the dash unless it’s absolutely necessary what options do I have ?

Additionally is it worth it to pay for the Bmw assist or Bmw online? What features will it add?

ctuna · 11-18-2017, 06:09 PM

Change out the factory amp would be stage one.
The old solution was a Jl 600/6 installed with a Technic
Harness.

The New solution would be a Bimmertech Helix 82dsp kit.

In either case to raise either of these things from a whole lot
better to totally awesome a Good three speaker drop in kit like
the Jehnert Flatline kit . This is really recamended as the stock
speakers are not that good.
Not that hard to do either.

If you have idrive , feature questions best to take them to the idrive
board.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=122

BMW assist pretty much only good if you are having trouble in an accident or locked out of your
car as far as I know.

HI Fi upgrades
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ighlight=level
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=540446
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...hlight=technic
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532585
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=833581
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=443043
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324214
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...hlight=level+3

vr4spd · 11-18-2017, 08:28 PM

Thanks for your response, sounds like a amp swap out is the easiest solution. I’m hesitant to open up paneling I’ve done quite a few speaker swaps and seems like every time I end breaking clips or the panel never quite attaches back the way it was resulting in rattle. I’m actually more comfortable dismantling things under the hood lol.

vr4spd · 11-18-2017, 08:31 PM

*edit
Yes I do have I-Drive. It doesn’t have apps like I’ve seen in newer models it actually looks pretty much the same as my 09 which I was I asked if the online subscription was worthwhile

ctuna · 11-18-2017, 09:21 PM

I here you on the panel breakage stuff but the BMW
panels are actually pretty easy to do . I did end up breaking
a few of the plastic pop rivets but they only cost less than
a buck each.

I had an Integra that wasn't so easy to do the as you had
to hook it over the top just right to get it to go back in place.

bimmertech 82 dsp/amp comes as a plug and play kit with a tune . If I were doing it again I would look at that a Helix dsp/amp pretty hard or something like it. (bimmertech uses the helix 82 dsp/amp for there kit)

http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...3&d=1329017429

Install procedures
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ght=door+wires
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=911595
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=19
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=571803
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ht=amp+install

http://www.bimmerdiy.com/dir/e90
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...DIY+door+panel
http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...-Panel-Removal
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=553388
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...hlight=speaker
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=635672

lnxguy · 11-23-2017, 10:58 AM

JBL MS-8 + Sonix Electronic center speaker.

Best bang for the buck upgrade for the HiFi system.

BMW3DK · 11-26-2017, 09:17 AM

This can actually be realized with a Match PP62 DSP as well.

As long as no extra subwoofer is needed, you can cut some savings and go for a PP62 solution instead of the expensive PP82 / PP86

Rest is 'just' programming of the DSP.

:-)
//Chris

Quote:

Originally Posted by lnxguy

JBL MS-8 + Sonix Electronic center speaker.

Best bang for the buck upgrade for the HiFi system.

Go Horns! · 11-26-2017, 02:35 PM

There are lots of ways to improve the HiFi system. You should read the links ctuna provided to see what road you want to take.

I would get the Technic harness and do the amp/dsp upgrade first. If you are okay with losing the center speaker and the rear speakers, you can go without dsp. But you will need an amp that takes balanced differential inputs. JL Audio and Arc Audio will.

If after you upgrade the amp you are not happy, the next step would be a subwoofer and speakers. But you think you end up there, you might as well plan for it and buy one amp.

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vr4spd Private First Class 7 Rep 132 Posts Drives: E93 335is Sapphire Black Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Easiest way to add a little more bottom ed and clarity to 2011is with HIFi What’s the best option for adding some more bottom end and clarity at hi volume on my 2011is with the HIFI? I really don’t want to take off any paneling or get into the dash unless it’s absolutely necessary what options do I have ? Additionally is it worth it to pay for the Bmw assist or Bmw online? What features will it add? Attached Images __________________ Present garage 2011 335is ,2006 Range Rover sport SC, 2005 GSXR-750, 2003 Jeep Wrangler Retired/sold 2009 e92 m3-totaled, 2008 e92 , 335i fbo ,2011 ZCP e92 m3, 2007 E60 M5, 2008 ZO6 C6 Vette, 2006 evolution MR, 1999 VR-4 Last edited by vr4spd; 11-18-2017 at 05:48 PM..
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ctuna Lieutenant General 1911 Rep 13,100 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	Change out the factory amp would be stage one. The old solution was a Jl 600/6 installed with a Technic Harness. The New solution would be a Bimmertech Helix 82dsp kit. In either case to raise either of these things from a whole lot better to totally awesome a Good three speaker drop in kit like the Jehnert Flatline kit . This is really recamended as the stock speakers are not that good. Not that hard to do either. If you have idrive , feature questions best to take them to the idrive board. http://www.e90post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=122 BMW assist pretty much only good if you are having trouble in an accident or locked out of your car as far as I know. HI Fi upgrades http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ighlight=level http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=540446 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...hlight=technic http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532585 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=833581 http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=443043 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324214 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...hlight=level+3 Last edited by ctuna; 11-18-2017 at 06:33 PM..
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vr4spd Private First Class 7 Rep 132 Posts Drives: E93 335is Sapphire Black Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Thanks for your response, sounds like a amp swap out is the easiest solution. I’m hesitant to open up paneling I’ve done quite a few speaker swaps and seems like every time I end breaking clips or the panel never quite attaches back the way it was resulting in rattle. I’m actually more comfortable dismantling things under the hood lol. __________________ Present garage 2011 335is ,2006 Range Rover sport SC, 2005 GSXR-750, 2003 Jeep Wrangler Retired/sold 2009 e92 m3-totaled, 2008 e92 , 335i fbo ,2011 ZCP e92 m3, 2007 E60 M5, 2008 ZO6 C6 Vette, 2006 evolution MR, 1999 VR-4
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vr4spd Private First Class 7 Rep 132 Posts Drives: E93 335is Sapphire Black Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: California iTrader: (0)	*edit Yes I do have I-Drive. It doesn’t have apps like I’ve seen in newer models it actually looks pretty much the same as my 09 which I was I asked if the online subscription was worthwhile __________________ Present garage 2011 335is ,2006 Range Rover sport SC, 2005 GSXR-750, 2003 Jeep Wrangler Retired/sold 2009 e92 m3-totaled, 2008 e92 , 335i fbo ,2011 ZCP e92 m3, 2007 E60 M5, 2008 ZO6 C6 Vette, 2006 evolution MR, 1999 VR-4
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ctuna Lieutenant General 1911 Rep 13,100 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	I here you on the panel breakage stuff but the BMW panels are actually pretty easy to do . I did end up breaking a few of the plastic pop rivets but they only cost less than a buck each. I had an Integra that wasn't so easy to do the as you had to hook it over the top just right to get it to go back in place. bimmertech 82 dsp/amp comes as a plug and play kit with a tune . If I were doing it again I would look at that a Helix dsp/amp pretty hard or something like it. (bimmertech uses the helix 82 dsp/amp for there kit) http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...3&d=1329017429 Install procedures http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ght=door+wires http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=911595 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=19 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=571803 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ht=amp+install http://www.bimmerdiy.com/dir/e90 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...DIY+door+panel http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...-Panel-Removal http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=553388 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...hlight=speaker http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=635672 Last edited by ctuna; 11-18-2017 at 09:29 PM..
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Go Horns! Second Lieutenant 96 Rep 206 Posts Drives: 2013 335is Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (1)	There are lots of ways to improve the HiFi system. You should read the links ctuna provided to see what road you want to take. I would get the Technic harness and do the amp/dsp upgrade first. If you are okay with losing the center speaker and the rear speakers, you can go without dsp. But you will need an amp that takes balanced differential inputs. JL Audio and Arc Audio will. If after you upgrade the amp you are not happy, the next step would be a subwoofer and speakers. But you think you end up there, you might as well plan for it and buy one amp.
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