MPG Enhancement day!

mjh93sa · 12-11-2007, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotcoupe

Dyno run

I have got this booked for Friday,but I will change it so Tony & I can have the re-run done at the same time.Hopefully Carlos will be joining us.

Excellent. It'll be interesting to quantify the gains in efficiency (and so economy).

dxb335d · 12-11-2007, 04:48 PM

Ys please wait for me tho.

BoBBoB · 12-11-2007, 05:32 PM

Good to see Simon doing everyone proud, Carlos i'm sorry that you couldn't get your car done, I hope its nothing serious and can be quickly rectified.

I can't wait to see what the Rolling Road says the new gains are :-)

Evil Diesel · 12-12-2007, 02:32 AM

Soon .........

Oli · 12-12-2007, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

Is the car much much quicker?

So much quicker, having roughly an extra 60BHP, the difference over a standard 335D is staggering, throttle response is sharper, power delivery smoother, and just overall power everywhere is just plain silly - You'll know exactly what I mean when you have it done

dxb335d · 12-12-2007, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by OliH

So much quicker, having roughly an extra 60BHP, the difference over a standard 335D is staggering, throttle response is sharper, power delivery smoother, and just overall power everywhere is just plain silly - You'll know exactly what I mean when you have it done

I find that mine pulls hard to 5k without any drop off as such. On my graph max power was made at 4500 and held to 4800. Does a re-mapped one still pull all the way to the redline hard like an animal or does the peak power come in earlier now and drop off quicker?

Thanks

Carlos

creepy coupe · 12-12-2007, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

My pics

a re-map being born

Wow, is that all it take's, a few downloaded emails.

Sounds a beast HC

Evil Diesel · 12-12-2007, 03:22 AM

Outlook is a powerful application.

creepy coupe · 12-12-2007, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Diesel

Outlook is a powerful application.

Does Outlook offer anything for the 320d

dxb335d · 12-12-2007, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

Does Outlook offer anything for the 320d

They use Excel for 320d's

Evil Diesel · 12-12-2007, 03:44 AM

No - it is through Outlook under the file / new / new message menu to info@e-maps.co.uk.

This application may give a +37 bhp & + 60 nm boost to your mail exchange server.

Serjames · 12-12-2007, 04:50 AM

Apparently they mail your map accross to their "secret BMW Contact" who then tweaks it and mails it back ?

SJ

Evil Diesel · 12-12-2007, 05:13 AM

I rather doubt that the German part of the operation works at BMW following their recent practice of seeking that all such people are slammed in prison.

330cdsport · 12-12-2007, 05:20 AM

Congrats on your new 'economy' map guys! Sorry to hear you did not get yours done Carlos. Hopefully it will not be long to you get it sorted.

You are now about to believe you have a new car every time you get into it and go WTF?!?!?! when you put your foot down. Tis a great feeling

Thats a hell of a lot of mapped 335d's on the forum now!! It definitely must be catching

NFS · 12-12-2007, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

Does a re-mapped one still pull all the way to the redline hard like an animal or does the peak power come in earlier now and drop off quicker?

Carlos .. what animals pull hard all the way to the redline then?

Tiger, Wildebeest ... Stoat ?

I wasn't aware that any animals had rev limiters.

Serjames · 12-12-2007, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Diesel

I rather doubt that the German part of the operation works at BMW following their recent practice of seeking that all such people are slammed in prison.

Ahhh but that's why they're SECRET !

CrimsonRedE93 · 12-12-2007, 07:18 AM

I am curious what Simon used the freezer spray for

BoBBoB · 12-12-2007, 07:36 AM

My understanding is that the cooling allows the ECU to take the map ? its sounds bizzare but originally when they tried to map the ECU it wouldn't take as the ambient temperature was too high, turned out sticking the ECU in a freezer bag in the freezer for an hour helped. I guess the freezer spray acts the same way but much quicker.

I'm sure someone has a more scentific explanation but the lower the temperature (to a point) the better the chances of the re-map working ?

Evil Diesel · 12-12-2007, 09:15 AM

From memory of old, freezing wipes the EPROM of any residual code leaving it clear to re-programme.

CrimsonRedE93 · 12-12-2007, 03:52 PM

So there is a point that it could go very wrong, if you freeze it and then can't reprogram it.

Thanks for the answer guy's, It does look like Simon was using the ICP method of repregramming (because of the amount of pins on the header) but I am suprised it needs freezing you should just be able to flash it.

mmmmmm intersting

more research to do I think.

dxb335d · 12-12-2007, 04:13 PM

So what happens if it does not load up? are you fucked?

Thanks for all the condolences guys.

Evil Diesel · 12-12-2007, 04:46 PM

An embarrasing conversation with the dealer will result. Simon was preparing himself to take it on the chin though - top bloke.

Oh well, all is well that ends well.

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BoBBoB Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 282 Posts Drives: Clio 200 Full Fat Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oxfordshire iTrader: (0)	My understanding is that the cooling allows the ECU to take the map ? its sounds bizzare but originally when they tried to map the ECU it wouldn't take as the ambient temperature was too high, turned out sticking the ECU in a freezer bag in the freezer for an hour helped. I guess the freezer spray acts the same way but much quicker. I'm sure someone has a more scentific explanation but the lower the temperature (to a point) the better the chances of the re-map working ?
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