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Originally Posted by Brule

It will cost me a fair bit.
4800 turbos

300 gasket kit
200 shipping to usa
200 shipping back
50 oil filter
120 engine oil

Intercooler would be a bit over a $1000
ATM was about 1100
Just over $6.5k and I'll have to diy it.

Would love to see the comparison, back to back, same tune.

I don't understand how more air can be forced out of the same sized wheels with the same stock frames.

[kOncept]

Originally Posted by _ink

Would love to see the comparison, back to back, same tune.

I don't understand how more air can be forced out of the same sized wheels with the same stock frames.

more efficient wheel design?

I don't think Pure have released any info on the size of their stg2 wheel so it may be bigger?

[JB4-335]

Pure said the wheel is larger than RB's.

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Originally Posted by JB4-335

Pure said the wheel is larger than RB's.

Interesting, not sure why they haven't released specs yet?

[JD75]

Originally Posted by _ink

Interesting, not sure why they haven't released specs yet?

That's just how they roll mate.

They play their cards close to their chest, which is what they did with the N55 Stage 2 turbocharger and the S55 twin upgrade, but both models have been kicking arse since they were released.

I have 3 sets of Pure Stage 2's on order right now.

One of which will be going on a vehicle that currently has RB's installed that is running straight E85 on PI with a Stage 3 LPFP blah blah blah.

Oh, VTT "sillycone" pipes come off and a polished TFT kit goes on with the Pure turbos.

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Originally Posted by JD75

That's just how they roll mate.

They play their cards close to their chest, which is what they did with the N55 Stage 2 turbocharger and the S55 twin upgrade, but both models have been kicking arse since they were released.

I have 3 sets of Pure Stage 2's on order right now.

One of which will be going on a vehicle that currently has RB's installed that is running straight E85 on PI with a Stage 3 LPFP blah blah blah.

Oh, VTT "sillycone" pipes come off and a polished TFT kit goes on with the Pure turbos.

Haha, I know exactly who that is!!

[Brule]

I don't believe the tft inlets on rhd are any more beneficial than vtts inlets.

Especially considering the rear inlet has to do a sharp bend compared to a 45 degree with vtts inlets.

I know tft has a large charge pipe but the effect of the rear iblet would be at a loss.

Im not a vtt fan by the way.

If lhd I would be into tft but rhd???

[JB4-335]

Originally Posted by Brule

I don't believe the tft inlets on rhd are any more beneficial than vtts inlets.

Especially considering the rear inlet has to do a sharp bend compared to a 45 degree with vtts inlets.

I know tft has a large charge pipe but the effect of the rear iblet would be at a loss.

Im not a vtt fan by the way.

If lhd I would be into tft but rhd???

Agreed. Not a VVT fan at all myself and you have to take into account the filters on the hot side compared to the cooler side.

[DR-JEKL]

if the tft's were $1k ish I would go with them, but sadly they're a lot more and its kinda difficult to justify the price in BFYB terms

[JD75]

Originally Posted by Brule

I don't believe the tft inlets on rhd are any more beneficial than vtts inlets.

Especially considering the rear inlet has to do a sharp bend compared to a 45 degree with vtts inlets.

I know tft has a large charge pipe but the effect of the rear iblet would be at a loss.

Im not a vtt fan by the way.

If lhd I would be into tft but rhd???

Originally Posted by JB4-335

Agreed. Not a VVT fan at all myself and you have to take into account the filters on the hot side compared to the cooler side.

Originally Posted by DR-JEKL

if the tft's were $1k ish I would go with them, but sadly they're a lot more and its kinda difficult to justify the price in BFYB terms

Well I can tell you that I have personally tuned two N54' with standard wheel-set RB's, one with VTT inlets the other with TFT and my "sharp bend" (lol) RHD elbow. FYI, the RB's on the VTT setup struggled to make 23psi above 6,000rpm even with duty bias tweaking, where as the TFT car easily made 23.5psi with a WGDC in the high 50's.

[yawn]

Originally Posted by totti84

You forgot to add shipping to those prices Shane

Plus import duties

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Originally Posted by Brule

I don't believe the tft inlets on rhd are any more beneficial than vtts inlets.

Especially considering the rear inlet has to do a sharp bend compared to a 45 degree with vtts inlets.

I know tft has a large charge pipe but the effect of the rear iblet would be at a loss.

Im not a vtt fan by the way.

If lhd I would be into tft but rhd???

Self confession: I have TFT's.

Now that's out of the way...

'Benefits' are all completely subjective, and not knowing the finer details makes assumptions purely that, an assumption.

Let's start with WGDC @ like for like boost targets, do you know what those figures are for VTT/RB vs TFT @ 21-22psi? (No?) ~80 and ~50 respectively.

Let's also consider what boost levels the VTT/RB vs TFT start to max out (usable power) - So far, VTT/RB are at ~23psi and TFT are at 28+psi.

Premium hardware which will outlast the life of the vehicle.

K&N Filters, OEM relocation parts, clamps and bracketry.

And one of my most favourite things about this mod, the intoxicating induction and turbo spool which can be heard loud and clear!! (Can't compare stainless steel and sillycon when it comes to this)

So there you have it, some of the main differences for everyone to consider if these points alone are consider beneficial.

[DR-JEKL]

TFT's are ultimately the best albeit arent they well over $3k? (by memory their $3.5K?)

RB inlets were $500 odd and unfortunately I couldnt justify the TFT's for the $

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They are expensive mate, but would be closer to $2.2 landed.

[totti84]

Originally Posted by _ink

They are expensive mate, but would be closer to $2.2 landed.

Surely not at this exchange rate, and JD's CF elbow is an additional $600ish?

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Originally Posted by totti84

Surely not at this exchange rate, and JD's CF elbow is an additional $600ish?

You're right! Completely forgot to include that.

[totti84]

Originally Posted by _ink

You're right! Completely forgot to include that.

Would love a set of TFT's over my VTT's, but ballin' ain't cheap as you already know Ian lol

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Originally Posted by totti84

Would love a set of TFT's over my VTT's, but ballin' ain't cheap as you already know Ian lol

Haha, well, you have a ballin exhaust that i want to hear mate!

[totti84]

Originally Posted by _ink

Haha, well, you have a ballin exhaust that i want to hear mate!

Haha.. once I fit my inlets and new tune, i'll be up for a big cruise out of Sydney!

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Originally Posted by totti84

Haha.. once I fit my inlets and new tune, i'll be up for a big cruise out of Sydney!

Let's just wack your exhaust on my car to see what it sounds like!

[bmwheath]

Far out turbos for these cars are so over priced. $4800 turbos ($5400 retail)+ $850 core charge, + maybe $300 postage, + 10% import taxes, + fitting kit. May as well go a big single. Would love some Pure's but cant justify the price

[bmwheath]

Waiting patiently for Hexon's latest offering. there RR550's are about $3000us including core charge fees & delivery!
From memory Wedges car was pushing 600rwhp with these