E90Post
 


Coby Wheel
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > New & Preowned BMW Ordering / Pricing / Tracking Information Forum (including European Delivery) > US Spec E91 335i + 6MT worth?



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-18-2017, 10:17 PM   #1
redEYEjedi
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
769
Rep
1,754
Posts

Drives: G05 / F31 / E91
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (11)

US Spec E91 335i + 6MT worth?

Hello all,

If you read the title, you're probably wondering wth am I talking about. The US never got the E91 335i. Well... I changed that and had my shop swap in a N54 engine and put in a manual transmission also. Donor car was a 2010 Msport E90 335i with 64k miles.

What do you guys think this is worth?

PS* This is not the car in my signature. That is a completely different car than the one described above.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-19-2017, 02:05 AM   #2
Ruddigger
Major
Ruddigger's Avatar
694
Rep
1,302
Posts

Drives: 2012 E91
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

As a rule modded cars aren't worth the money you put into them. That said, who knows?
__________________
My build thread.
It's a wagon with stuff on it.
Appreciate 0
      01-19-2017, 08:54 AM   #3
supercooloptw
Registered
United_States
0
Rep
4
Posts

Drives: '09 335i Coupe
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA

iTrader: (0)

Any more details on the car? Pics?
Appreciate 0
      01-19-2017, 02:48 PM   #4
iamjamen
First Lieutenant
iamjamen's Avatar
132
Rep
319
Posts

Drives: E90 335i, E70 35i, E83 3.0i
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: America's High Five (MI)

iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2009 BMW 335i  [10.00]
__________________
| 2009 E90 335i M-Sport 6MT |
Appreciate 1
feuer4274.50
      01-19-2017, 09:24 PM   #5
BIGGNS
BMW Addict
BIGGNS's Avatar
United_States
402
Rep
380
Posts

Drives: Defensively
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: two5three

iTrader: (1)

Priceless! Are you looking to sell it?

Need more details to come up with an accurate estimate. Depends on year/mileage/condition of the original E91 as well as the donor 335. Rough guess I'd say anywhere between $15-25k.
Appreciate 0
      01-24-2017, 01:12 AM   #6
tlow98
Brigadier General
2163
Rep
4,968
Posts

Drives: 2009 E91, 2014 F15 x35i
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (2)

I'm thinking 20k. Need a lot more details on the build quality. Has to be the right buyer tho. A non enthusiast would likely be put off by it, but the rest of us are all hot and bothered.

Poster above was right on. Given what we know it's a wide range!
Appreciate 0
      01-25-2017, 01:45 PM   #7
redEYEjedi
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
769
Rep
1,754
Posts

Drives: G05 / F31 / E91
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruddigger View Post
As a rule modded cars aren't worth the money you put into them. That said, who knows?
Agreed and I think most cars would fall under this category. Of course there are exceptions. I sold my first E91 M3 body conversion for close to used M3 prices back in 2014.

Quote:
Originally Posted by supercooloptw View Post
Any more details on the car? Pics?
I don't have photos since the car isn't done yet... but the E91 chasis has 110k with a swapped in MT and N54 from a 2010 with 64k miles. Interior will have E90 M3 seats, door cards, and headliner will be wrapped in black alcantara. Body will get a full repaint. Suspension is still TBD.

Quote:
Originally Posted by iamjamen View Post
Coming soon! Car is still in final stages of completion.


Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGGNS View Post
Priceless! Are you looking to sell it?

Need more details to come up with an accurate estimate. Depends on year/mileage/condition of the original E91 as well as the donor 335. Rough guess I'd say anywhere between $15-25k.
E91 chasis has 110k with a swapped in MT and N54 from a 2010 with 64k miles. Interior will have E90 M3 seats, door cards, and headliner will be wrapped in black alcantara. Body will get a full repaint. Suspension is still TBD.

Of course I would say all the estimates won't be accurate since I didn't give much info.

I think anyone who's actually looking at an E91 would already be a special buyer. If anything, someone who found an M sport N52 E91 in the 15k-25k range would already be lucky. Since I've already had an N52 E91, I can say they're fun and well balanced cars, but not that fast.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tlow98 View Post
I'm thinking 20k. Need a lot more details on the build quality. Has to be the right buyer tho. A non enthusiast would likely be put off by it, but the rest of us are all hot and bothered.

Poster above was right on. Given what we know it's a wide range!
haha sorry for getting you guys all hot and bothered. I'm pretty eager to get the car back. I'm just on the fence on keeping the car since my work situation has changed and I may need a bigger car to drive clients in and the wagon may not work as well. Agreed that only an enthusiast would appreciate the car, and that's pretty much who I would target, someone like myself who has a particular taste and wants something unique that no one else has.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-25-2017, 03:50 PM   #8
Go Horns!
Second Lieutenant
Go Horns!'s Avatar
96
Rep
206
Posts

Drives: 2013 335is
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (1)

I'm 6 foot and 250 pounds, I've ridden in the back of my boss's E90 M3 plenty of times. I had more than enough room. I would not want to be back there for more than an hour or two, but around town it was no problem. I'm guessing that a wagon would have a similar amount of room. How long will a client be in the back of your car? And do you expect them to be tall?

But if you want me to venture a guess, I would say that you will get a small premium over a similar e90 335i. If you wait for a special buyer, maybe $5,000.
Appreciate 0
      01-25-2017, 06:03 PM   #9
NYBulldog
Specialist
1309
Rep
2,706
Posts

Drives: Nikes
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NuYawk

iTrader: (19)

People are hilarious. You won't get the money you want for it unless you are willing to find the right buyer. There will be plenty of real enthusiasts interested. It all depends on how full the conversion is as you already know. If you are looking to cut your losses just stop adding stuff or revert everything but the mechanical back to OEM.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2017, 03:41 AM   #10
n55jb4
Lieutenant
United_States
131
Rep
535
Posts

Drives: 328xi 2007 Auto
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: AZ

iTrader: (0)

It's going to be rare for sure. I have no doubt it will sell. However, mods don't have same value on market unfortunately, so eventually it's a waste of money. Look at some of sale threads here on forum, people trying to sell very tastefully modded cars and most of them ending up parting all mods, since they can't get anywhere close to what they were hoping for. People don't buy modded cars as well as OEM stock.

So as some posters said - best thing for you is to wait until a E91 enthusiast buyer shows up who can appreciate your unique car - if you want to get anything more than usual same age 335 goes for nowadays (I saw a e92 2010 335i 6MT with 89k miles, lots of good mods for $16k and no one showed any interest at that price)

P.S. as for me I would be highly suspicious about that kind of swap, when I don't know history of accidents with chassis or motor donor car and I'm not sure in swap quality done by the shop, I simply can't trust such swap, I would rather pick OEM 335 than a Frankenstein swapped in local indy shop constructor from 2 parted cars, but then again if I wanted E91 with more power I would have looked at it definitely
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2017, 01:04 PM   #11
redEYEjedi
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
769
Rep
1,754
Posts

Drives: G05 / F31 / E91
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Go Horns! View Post
I'm 6 foot and 250 pounds, I've ridden in the back of my boss's E90 M3 plenty of times. I had more than enough room. I would not want to be back there for more than an hour or two, but around town it was no problem. I'm guessing that a wagon would have a similar amount of room. How long will a client be in the back of your car? And do you expect them to be tall?

But if you want me to venture a guess, I would say that you will get a small premium over a similar e90 335i. If you wait for a special buyer, maybe $5,000.
It depends on the situation. A client could be in my car for 20 minutes for 4 hours.

haha thanks for the laugh. Please let me know if you find a stock MT E91 for $5000. I have cash ready!

Quote:
Originally Posted by NYBulldog View Post
People are hilarious. You won't get the money you want for it unless you are willing to find the right buyer. There will be plenty of real enthusiasts interested. It all depends on how full the conversion is as you already know. If you are looking to cut your losses just stop adding stuff or revert everything but the mechanical back to OEM.
haha yup. Honestly it was just kind of fun to hear the responses since I've already received a few inquiries about purchasing the car within the price range of used E9x M3's. It wasn't too hard to sell my previous E91 that was modded so finding the right buyer for the right price isn't too hard.

Quote:
Originally Posted by n55jb4 View Post
It's going to be rare for sure. I have no doubt it will sell. However, mods don't have same value on market unfortunately, so eventually it's a waste of money. Look at some of sale threads here on forum, people trying to sell very tastefully modded cars and most of them ending up parting all mods, since they can't get anywhere close to what they were hoping for. People don't buy modded cars as well as OEM stock.

So as some posters said - best thing for you is to wait until a E91 enthusiast buyer shows up who can appreciate your unique car - if you want to get anything more than usual same age 335 goes for nowadays (I saw a e92 2010 335i 6MT with 89k miles, lots of good mods for $16k and no one showed any interest at that price)

P.S. as for me I would be highly suspicious about that kind of swap, when I don't know history of accidents with chassis or motor donor car and I'm not sure in swap quality done by the shop, I simply can't trust such swap, I would rather pick OEM 335 than a Frankenstein swapped in local indy shop constructor from 2 parted cars, but then again if I wanted E91 with more power I would have looked at it definitely
Interesting how the topic of mods was brought up when I never stated the car had mods. It's also interesting how the comparison of a different model would be useful since that wouldn't be an ideal way to get comps. I think anyone selling a car would be suspicious of the buyer's logic if they used a different car model to compare the value of your car. That's fair to say right?

I don't blame your suspicion. There are a lot of hack shops out there. Fortunately here in socal we do have a number of reputable shops and plenty of enthusiasts here who know the reputation of the shops.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2017, 05:54 PM   #12
n55jb4
Lieutenant
United_States
131
Rep
535
Posts

Drives: 328xi 2007 Auto
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: AZ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by redEYEjedi View Post
It depends on the situation. A client could be in my car for 20 minutes for 4 hours.

haha thanks for the laugh. Please let me know if you find a stock MT E91 for $5000. I have cash ready!



haha yup. Honestly it was just kind of fun to hear the responses since I've already received a few inquiries about purchasing the car within the price range of used E9x M3's. It wasn't too hard to sell my previous E91 that was modded so finding the right buyer for the right price isn't too hard.



Interesting how the topic of mods was brought up when I never stated the car had mods. It's also interesting how the comparison of a different model would be useful since that wouldn't be an ideal way to get comps. I think anyone selling a car would be suspicious of the buyer's logic if they used a different car model to compare the value of your car. That's fair to say right?

I don't blame your suspicion. There are a lot of hack shops out there. Fortunately here in socal we do have a number of reputable shops and plenty of enthusiasts here who know the reputation of the shops.
I have no doubt your E91 will end up one of the most nicest wagons out there - simply by judging your enthusiasms and commitment. I was just simply stating my opinion and I think opinion of majority or average Joe that will think like that (even if they are wrong). It's just human nature to stay away from any swaps and such. I only mentioned mods, because to me anything changed from sock is a mod: swapping seats, doing alcantara lining to interior, swapping 6MT and engine and so on - if these aren't mods then I don't know what mods are lol
That being said, don't mind me, I'm sure there are always folks who are after such rare car, so I'm sure you'll sell it
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2017, 10:37 PM   #13
Go Horns!
Second Lieutenant
Go Horns!'s Avatar
96
Rep
206
Posts

Drives: 2013 335is
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by redEYEjedi View Post
haha thanks for the laugh. Please let me know if you find a stock MT E91 for $5000. I have cash ready!
What makes more sense? I was stating that it would go for $5,000 over a similar e90 or that it would go for $5,000?
Appreciate 0
      01-28-2017, 03:40 AM   #14
redEYEjedi
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
769
Rep
1,754
Posts

Drives: G05 / F31 / E91
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by n55jb4 View Post
I have no doubt your E91 will end up one of the most nicest wagons out there - simply by judging your enthusiasms and commitment. I was just simply stating my opinion and I think opinion of majority or average Joe that will think like that (even if they are wrong). It's just human nature to stay away from any swaps and such. I only mentioned mods, because to me anything changed from sock is a mod: swapping seats, doing alcantara lining to interior, swapping 6MT and engine and so on - if these aren't mods then I don't know what mods are lol
That being said, don't mind me, I'm sure there are always folks who are after such rare car, so I'm sure you'll sell it
Yea you are right though, anything not OEM is modded. Would it count still if I only used OEM parts haha. But I apologize if I came off strong all your statements are quite true.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-28-2017, 03:43 AM   #15
redEYEjedi
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
769
Rep
1,754
Posts

Drives: G05 / F31 / E91
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Go Horns! View Post
What makes more sense? I was stating that it would go for $5,000 over a similar e90 or that it would go for $5,000?
Oh man, I totally glossed over that and mistook it for the latter..
__________________
Appreciate 0
      02-09-2017, 01:42 AM   #16
tlow98
Brigadier General
2163
Rep
4,968
Posts

Drives: 2009 E91, 2014 F15 x35i
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (2)

I certainly believe you have some offers already, and that's great, but unlike the last car that was sold off to never-never land never to be seen or heard of again I'd love to hear and see some actual details on this car.

Kind of a shame if we don't because we're all here to build knowledge and enjoy these really cool builds. Anyway, just my thoughts.

Hope this one sees the light of the internet before someone rushes it away in hiding :-/
Appreciate 0
      02-09-2017, 10:17 PM   #17
redEYEjedi
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
769
Rep
1,754
Posts

Drives: G05 / F31 / E91
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tlow98 View Post
I certainly believe you have some offers already, and that's great, but unlike the last car that was sold off to never-never land never to be seen or heard of again I'd love to hear and see some actual details on this car.

Kind of a shame if we don't because we're all here to build knowledge and enjoy these really cool builds. Anyway, just my thoughts.

Hope this one sees the light of the internet before someone rushes it away in hiding :-/
Actually, my last wagon was featured on the front page of this forum, on Speedhunters, made it's rounds in a bunch of shows and also won a few awards last year if I remember correctly. The owner is also a fellow forum member so the car is not in hiding, you just have to know where to look.

I agree with your comments though, the purpose of this forum is to share knowledge and most importantly, photos! I just don't have any at the moment..
__________________
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2017, 06:28 PM   #18
Vincent_E90
Second Lieutenant
Vincent_E90's Avatar
United_States
81
Rep
241
Posts

Drives: N54 E90 335i 6MT BSM
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: North Lake Tahoe, CA

iTrader: (1)

Please do this, honestly a build I've been looking in to doing in the next few years
__________________
Mine - 2008 E90 335i Black Sapphire Metallic 6MT | New OEM Turbos @ 111k| Cobb Stage 2 LT Sport | Full Stainless Steel Akrapovic Exhaust | 5'' Stepped FMIC | VRSF Catless Downpipes| 19in BBS CH-R Matte Black | aFe Stage 2 Air Intake and air scoops| Mishimoto OCC| M-Tech Front Bumper
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:45 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST