Blackstone Labs

BMW335icoupe · 08-01-2012, 03:43 PM

Does anyone have experience with them. I want to have the dealer take a oil sample and then give it to me so I can have it tested. Will the dealer cooperate.

Thanks.

bmiller085 · 08-01-2012, 04:23 PM

I had a decent experience with them - it took quite a while for them to send my analysis back, though. (This was a few years ago so I can't remember how long it took exactly - just remember it took longer than a few weeks).

It is a neat service, though.

bmiller085 · 08-01-2012, 04:23 PM

About the dealer cooperating...I wouldn't see why they wouldn't keep a sample for you if they're reputable.

BMW335icoupe · 08-01-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bmiller085

I had a decent experience with them - it took quite a while for them to send my analysis back, though. (This was a few years ago so I can't remember how long it took exactly - just remember it took longer than a few weeks).

It is a neat service, though.

Thanks so much for your help!!!!

bmiller085 · 08-01-2012, 04:32 PM

no problem! good luck

BMW335icoupe · 08-01-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bmiller085

no problem! good luck

Thanks!!!!

NYC6 · 08-01-2012, 05:14 PM

Blackstone=Scam

AddictedToBavarian · 08-01-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NYC6

Blackstone=Scam

Why do you say that? Plenty of forum members have tried them. I was thinking of doing it too.

BMW335icoupe · 08-01-2012, 06:33 PM

How do you pay. Can you pay over Internet through a credit card.

BMW335icoupe · 08-01-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NYC6

Blackstone=Scam

Thanks for your opinion.

bumere90 · 08-01-2012, 06:34 PM

life is too short for this oil analysis crap

BMW335icoupe · 08-01-2012, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bumere90

life is too short for this oil analysis crap

Haha!!!! Thanks for the laugh and opinion!!!!

galahad05 · 08-01-2012, 08:01 PM

If you're going to go the oil analysis route, then you should go whole hog.
Do the 15k interval oil change and check, then follow up with a 7.5k with check. If that indicates you have plenty of "life" still in the oil, try a 10k interval change and check.

Usually what I've read around these forums (actual blackstone results) was that the oil essentially didn't have any life left at 15k for these owners. That is, it was time to change. NOT that it was "past time" to change.

In every case these owners decided to go with either 7.5k or 10k intervals as an insurance policy, but never followed up with further blackstone reports.

galahad05 · 08-01-2012, 08:03 PM

Wait, that wasn't completely correct: I remember now that there was one owner who did a check at 15k then at 7.5k. He reported the results on another bmw forum.
At 7.5k the report said that he had plenty of life left. He was satisfied and decided to just keep doing 7.5k intervals.

BMW335icoupe · 08-01-2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by galahad05

If you're going to go the oil analysis route, then you should go whole hog.
Do the 15k interval oil change and check, then follow up with a 7.5k with check. If that indicates you have plenty of "life" still in the oil, try a 10k interval change and check.

Usually what I've read around these forums (actual blackstone results) was that the oil essentially didn't have any life left at 15k for these owners. That is, it was time to change. NOT that it was "past time" to change.

In every case these owners decided to go with either 7.5k or 10k intervals as an insurance policy, but never followed up with further blackstone reports.

Thanks for the info!!!!

kfrazie1 · 08-03-2012, 06:13 PM

I change every 5000. 7500 is too long imo. 15000 is just silly.

Efthreeoh · 08-03-2012, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kfrazie1

I change every 5000. 7500 is too long imo. 15000 is just silly.

Yeah, those silly people with 150,000 miles on 15,000 mile oil changes!

kfrazie1 · 08-03-2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Yeah, those silly people with 150,000 miles on 15,000 mile oil changes!

If you feel comfortable at 15k then stick with it. I dont and most people on here dont. Bmw considers 100k miles a lifetime. 15 k oil change intervals are most likely designed to get the car to their "lifetime". If you want to keep it past 100k, change the oil sooner.

Efthreeoh · 08-04-2012, 05:10 AM

Hummm… I have 184,000 miles on my car, must be an anomaly

kfrazie1 · 08-04-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Hummm… I have 184,000 miles on my car, must be an anomaly

Like I said, if your comfortable with it, then stick with it.

Surly73 · 08-04-2012, 11:51 AM

I've used Blackstone a reasonable amount. They are the easiest to work with and well priced. Some have called into question their results or their test-to-test numerical variance from time-to-time but using Blackstone is leaps and bounds ahead of just changing the oil when the light comes on and doing nothing else.

Their analysis and commentary is not prepared by an elite industry specialist. If you have special concerns you need to partner with (and pay for) someone like Terry Dyson to add his expertise.

If you can get the sample - go for it. Just make sure that the sample is taken "mid stream".

Efthreeoh · 08-04-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kfrazie1

Like I said, if your comfortable with it, then stick with it.

I'd say it's obvious...

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galahad05 Brigadier General 158 Rep 3,158 Posts Drives: '07 335i e90 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island NY iTrader: (0)	If you're going to go the oil analysis route, then you should go whole hog. Do the 15k interval oil change and check, then follow up with a 7.5k with check. If that indicates you have plenty of "life" still in the oil, try a 10k interval change and check. Usually what I've read around these forums (actual blackstone results) was that the oil essentially didn't have any life left at 15k for these owners. That is, it was time to change. NOT that it was "past time" to change. In every case these owners decided to go with either 7.5k or 10k intervals as an insurance policy, but never followed up with further blackstone reports. __________________ Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. --Mark Twain
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galahad05 Brigadier General 158 Rep 3,158 Posts Drives: '07 335i e90 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island NY iTrader: (0)	Wait, that wasn't completely correct: I remember now that there was one owner who did a check at 15k then at 7.5k. He reported the results on another bmw forum. At 7.5k the report said that he had plenty of life left. He was satisfied and decided to just keep doing 7.5k intervals. __________________ Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. --Mark Twain
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Surly73 Lieutenant Colonel 534 Rep 1,873 Posts Drives: '11 535xi 8AT KWv3 MPE MHD xHP Join Date: May 2012 Location: Oakville, Ontario iTrader: (1)	I've used Blackstone a reasonable amount. They are the easiest to work with and well priced. Some have called into question their results or their test-to-test numerical variance from time-to-time but using Blackstone is leaps and bounds ahead of just changing the oil when the light comes on and doing nothing else. Their analysis and commentary is not prepared by an elite industry specialist. If you have special concerns you need to partner with (and pay for) someone like Terry Dyson to add his expertise. If you can get the sample - go for it. Just make sure that the sample is taken "mid stream".
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