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Please don't do this to your girlfriend!
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04-27-2013, 01:15 AM | #45 |
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Really? He was doing what he loves, on a track, responsibly and legally. Unfortunately he made an error and it nearly costed him his life. Doesn't make him an idiot. Just an unfortunate situation.
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04-27-2013, 01:58 AM | #46 |
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Damn, RIP to her, thank you for sharing this it really opened my eyes and its going to make me think twice about putting my family or girlfriend in a car that im going to race/track.
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04-27-2013, 02:16 AM | #48 |
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I'd guess he pushed it a little harder than usual to try to impress his GF.
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04-27-2013, 03:00 AM | #49 |
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04-27-2013, 03:05 AM | #50 |
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I didn't call him an idiot.
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04-27-2013, 05:49 AM | #51 |
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I don't envy folks that have inadvertently killed someone else, it has to be one of the worst situations imaginable. There is someone on my other forum who killed others incl. his friends in his car, and then I guess 5-6 yrs. later he states he's back, engaged, and has a new car (does this new woman know what happened to the last or one of the last?). I was away from the forum because I was here and on the forum for my wife's car, but it was so easy for me to google and find his story on what he had done, his jail sentence, etc. Tragic.
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04-27-2013, 07:57 AM | #52 |
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Did you even read the story? He took his girlfriend and she died. That's his fault. And you're still defending him?
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04-27-2013, 08:49 AM | #53 | ||
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Perhaps this will be a cautionary tale to any significant others who are of the same mind as she possibly could have been.
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04-27-2013, 08:57 AM | #54 |
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You can't fault they guy for wanting to do something that he enjoyed with his girlfriend. If you wanted to go skydiving, bungee jumping, hell even skiing or snowboarding, wouldn't you want to take your g/f with you too? Like others have said, there is risk in everything. People die on the motorway in accidents all day every day, with their loved ones. You don't blame those folks do you? He was the only one on the track at the time. The conditions all took a turn for the worse and he and his g/f paid the ultimate cost for it. I feel terrible for them and their families. There's no need to crucify him for it. He's already in so much pain and this is something that he will have to live it.
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04-27-2013, 09:04 AM | #55 |
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A sad tale, but a good reminder to all of us how quickly things can change in a heartbeat.
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04-27-2013, 01:52 PM | #56 |
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The course was being run CCW, and coming out of the bowl is a right-left kink going uphill, so the apex is blind. you can carry a lot of speed through here, especially if you have a car with decent grip and power. I'm thinking maybe he dropped a wheel or 2 off on the outside of corner exit and it rotated the car back toward the inside an into the flag station on the left side of the track.
The kind of car he was in was not the issue (for ignorant people saying that FWD or integras are unsafe or incapable at the track). Any car could have ended up in the same place. I've seen all kinds of cars wreck at the track, including BMWs. It's an accident, and they happen. Unfortunately, for this guy, the consequences were much worse than a typical off track excursion. I've run on the track with this outfit before, and believe I was on the track with this driver and his friends late last year. I never felt that anyone was being "unsafe" around me, everyone was driving hard and having a good time. It's unfortunate that these things happen, and I feel for the families of the driver and his gf. it is the nature of the sport. Car racing in any form is dangerous - including "having fun" on the street, like many people on the forum probably do. At least this guy was at the track in a controlled environment, and not on public streets. |
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04-27-2013, 08:50 PM | #58 |
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04-27-2013, 10:04 PM | #60 | |
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As a postscript, I can't help but think the real issue with this tragedy is not the ride along but the ride along in the absence of real safety gear. Had these two been in a caged car with SFI belts and helmets, etc. this debate would likely not be happening. |
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04-28-2013, 11:50 PM | #61 |
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SAD.........RIP.
I think we all have been a bit stupid at times.... in the heat of the moment stupidity can cloud your judgment. To all here be safe specially when your loved one are riding with you
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