Vishnu Single Turbo Kit update

tscdennab · 11-29-2011, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pits200

Are we all still forgetting about fueling? Maybe I missed something but I thought fueling was an issue at 500whp. How about now pushing upwards of 6 or 700whp?

Also, is this going into an automatic?

Obviously the design and concept looks fantastic but what else will need to be done to the car for it to be road ready?

I think Vishnu plans to somewhat compensate the fueling needs with methanol, look at all those nozzles. I don't think it's a good idea, but it can be done quickly.

Q4P · 11-29-2011, 09:43 AM

I asked the exact same thing about fueling but I think someone somewhere along the way made a booboo and there really was no issue with fueling to begin with. This is a test to see how far the factory fueling system can take us before becoming an issue.

bryce · 11-29-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tscdennab

I think Vishnu plans to somewhat compensate the fueling needs with methanol, look at all those nozzles. I don't think it's a good idea, but it can be done quickly.

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Originally Posted by Questforpower

I asked the exact same thing about fueling but I think someone somewhere along the way made a booboo and there really was no issue with fueling to begin with. This is a test to see how far the factory fueling system can take us before becoming an issue.

meth isn't going to be used to suppliment fuel. you guys should search "vishnu fuel project" part I and II. shiv is running a different fuel setup, although exactly what hasn't been announced yet. speculation is a different low pressure pump. this single turbo will enable vishnu to test how much power their upgraded fuel system can support. they've said they're not going to release teh upgraded fuel system until it is tested extensively

Q4P · 11-29-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bryce

meth isn't going to be used to suppliment fuel. you guys should search "vishnu fuel project" part I and II. shiv is running a different fuel setup, although exactly what hasn't been announced yet. speculation is a different low pressure pump. this single turbo will enable vishnu to test how much power their upgraded fuel system can support. they've said they're not going to release teh upgraded fuel system until it is tested extensively

U know why there was no part 3 or 4?

Something happened there... like a realization of some sort.

bryce · 11-29-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Questforpower

U know why there was no part 3 or 4?

Something happened there... like a realization of some sort.

the way i understand it, he's putting miles on his setup to see how reliable the upgraded components are

bryce · 11-29-2011, 10:14 AM

although, having said that, robb @ cobb tuning has been quoted saying they haven't hit any fuel ceiling yet

Q4P · 11-29-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bryce

although, having said that, robb @ cobb tuning has been quoted saying they haven't hit any fuel ceiling yet

So have a lot of others, which is why all of this is hard to figure out... I have heard about every side to this.

zerep1 · 11-29-2011, 10:26 AM

even the 500whp dyno have not shown any leaning i believe

tscdennab · 11-29-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bryce

meth isn't going to be used to suppliment fuel. you guys should search "vishnu fuel project" part I and II.

That project was based on entirely wrong assumptions, like BMS proved using an oscilloscope. That's why part 3 never came.

OpenFlash · 11-29-2011, 10:36 AM

Lots of fuel system related misinformation being tossed around here. There most definitely is a fuel system limitation. Anyone who hasn't come across is just hasn't made enough power.

OpenFlash · 11-29-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tscdennab

That project was based on entirely wrong assumptions, like BMS proved using an oscilloscope. That's why part 3 never came.

Nope.

Q4P · 11-29-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Lots of fuel system related misinformation being tossed around here. There most definitely is a fuel system limitation. Anyone who hasn't come across is just hasn't made enough power.

Exactly... so can we conclude that at the moment - there is not a known fueling system limitation as previously thought with the ~500 or so whp level?

Unless someone has made way more power and never said anything about it

OpenFlash · 11-29-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Questforpower

Exactly... so can we conclude that at the moment - there is not a known fueling system limitation as previously thought with the ~500 or so whp level?

Unless someone has made way more power and never said anything about it

Most cars wil approach a hardware-induced fuel system limit at just over 500whp (less if u don't run meth as fuel enrichment). The fact that all the upgrades twins tend to run out of gas in the 500-520whp range and everyone who make close to that power run multiple meth nozzles, has made this less than obvious.

Brian135i · 11-29-2011, 11:05 AM

bahn stormer · 11-29-2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

...lol... at the very least I'll try to find a dyno sheet that looks halfway plausible.

The sad part about Unfor's car is it really did have a GT35r installed. I saw it myself. Why he never electrically hooked up to the supplemental fuel rail and got it running, I have no idea. It's probably still sitting in JE Imports parking lot.

Hisam135i · 11-29-2011, 11:58 AM

Looking great so far, glad someone is actually showing some progress!!

Willizm · 11-29-2011, 02:23 PM

Shiv, is the AWD cars being considered for fitment of this manifold or is that a whole other can of worms?

OpenFlash · 11-29-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Willizm

Shiv, is the AWD cars being considered for fitment of this manifold or is that a whole other can of worms?

Whole other can of worms at this point

Syndicategt · 11-29-2011, 02:36 PM

That's impressive....I can't even imagine the labor costs

enrita · 11-29-2011, 02:41 PM

looks great Shiv, isnt it kinda mandatory to lower compression with a single?

jpsimon · 11-29-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Whole other can of worms at this point

feel free to test AWD fitment on my car

Kalud · 11-29-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Willizm

Shiv, is the AWD cars being considered for fitment of this manifold or is that a whole other can of worms?

I believe most of the xdrive hardware is located on the driver's side... But anyway I think we are way too early to talk about xdrive fitment

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